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In those two months, at $70,000/mare, he'd likely have been bred to about 70 mares, or about $4.9 million in stud fees. The Dubai Winner's purse is $7.2 million. I think it is the fear of injury that keeps him out of the race.

Beyers tell you VERY VERY little. Like reading a mystery and trying to figure out the story from reading ONLY the last chapter...Really a weak measure of how a horse dealt with the fractions imposed upon them ZIP!! The competitive MEANINGFUL part of the race, the pressures early, HAVE NO BEARING on the Beyer.....VERY limited use I often make the observation about experience, IF it is as rigid as most, one cannot realistically "I have been at this for 55 years," but rather.."I have been at this one year and just repeated in 54 times."

Man, when you put up those splits for the 2 horses, A.P. really had those moderate fractions when compared to PG. His last qtr was really something as has been said many times. Behind 2 secs in almost every backstretch to midstretch stage and then to nearly match PG's finishing time. Even with the moderate fractions and with some left in the tank, it's still eye popping.

His Dubai win wasn't that impressive. Travers and Breeders cup ten times more impressive imo

1)"A great horse in a mediocre age". The words "new golden age of racing" were often being floated around in 2015, I wonder why. 2)Arrogate's DWC was a standard 10 furlong win for a horse that is supposed to be one of the greatest ever. Secretariat's Derby at CD as a three year old was about seconds faster(I know Meydan's alot slower and Arrogate had a bad break). If you're going to be using a race to compare Arrogate to Sec at least use the facts and use the Travers. 3) Secretariat was beat once without a legit excuse. Once he was DQ'd, one loss was his maiden race where he was boxed in(something that happened to Arrogate too), one loss was he had a swollen lip for and another loss he came in second to the horse who ran the second fastest 12 furlongs ever. Only legit loss was his loss to Onion who he then obliterated in his next start breaking a WR in the process. Also no male horse has ever went the full 2 and three year old calendars with no losses. Colin was the last horse to do that, at least 1 loss over that period is plain and typical. Arrogate also has 4 stakes races so I don't think it's fair to hold horses who ran as younger males when upset's were more likely should be held against them to the same standard as a horse who's only ran when he was more developed and his superiority clear. Arrogate's never ran on short rest, he's been given every advantage in the book that his all time great peers weren't given. 3) Good times are competition proof because if a horse breaks a WR regardless of the competition, the fact remains NO HORSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT REGARDLESS OF QUALITY DID BETTER. So it's irelevant that Sham "broke down"(he was just gassed from a super fast pace). Are you really trying to downplay the 73 Belmont? Really. Secretariat broke that record by over 2 and a half seconds which means he would have beat the then fastest horse to ever run that distance(who very ironically beat Secretariat's distance limited daddy in the same race) by 12-15 lengths. Secretariat three starts later broke another world record(although this one was broken a few years back). His Kentucky Derby and Preakness records also have not been broken. The facts do speak for themselves and have for a long time. If you believe Arrogate is better than Secretariat you are just a hater plain and simple because there are no facts to support your claim.

The mile AP went through in his Travers was faster than Arrogate's. Also AP was coming off a tiring campaign, when Arrogate was 100% and just obliterated a tired field(not that they would have stood a chance of beating him).

I think AP should get a bit of a pass for gassing so badly in the Travers. Those internal splits were a bit insane for a 10f race. Although, I do think Arrogate is such a freak that he could have pulled off what Frosted attempted in that Travers race.