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2011 Jockey Club Gold Cup (G1)

10/1/2011, Belmont Park
Post Time:
5:46 PM ET
1 1/4 m (Dirt)
3+ M
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Flat Out,Stay thirsty, and Drosselmeyer
1: Stay Thirsty 2: Flat Out 3:Rodman
Anyone else a litle surprised that Flat Out is the morning line chalk over Stay Thirsty?
  • RuffianIŁourdes · I am!! Flat Out had never get his G1 win,but Thirsty boy did. That's weird :/ · 2210 days ago
  • DeadHeat · They are probably looking at his speed figs vs FO. Last out FO ran a very fast race over the track and got a 113 and has gotten tripples since then, and high ones. Thirsty's highest is like a 102 or 104. · 2210 days ago
A.P. Indy is making his presents felt this year, 6 out of the 10 possible runners are his grandsons.
Here are my picks for the Jockey Club Gold Cup: 1. Stay Thirsty: Has had two previous impressive wins in his last two starts. He just seems to get better and better. 2: Flat Out: Put in an impressive two second place performances. Haynesfield: He won this race last year over Blame, a excellent horse. 4: Rail Trip: He hasn't had a great season, but could pull a surprise.
  • ugozenyatta · What is amazing about Stay Thirsty, he dosen't have problems running in 10 furlongs or longer, he is by far not the same horse at the beggining of the year · 2212 days ago
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I believe Tizways crusing speed will be an advantage in a race without a clear front runner.
"Bond, sir--James Bond..."
Pace makes the race , looking like ,it could be, it might be, it is Tizway! He's gonna do it His Way! Even Secretariuat had trouble beating older horses in the likes of Onion, and Prove Out, Stay Thirsty IS NOT Secretariat ,not even Close he's gonna wish he had caloled Net Jets to get this one done!
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  • DeadHeat · Protagonist, if you knew this you wouldn't say the things you do. Affirmed and and Bid ran very hard in that race and both ran quite a bit during their 3yr old year. Curlin was a heck of a 4yr old and beat a more mature and developed Lawyer Ron. So it should be obvious that not all 3yr olds are ruined by facing their elders. Two of the races i mentioned were very close. Slew faced his elders twice and he ended up running very well the next year. It is more often that when two great horses meet, the older out does the three year old, but now always. Tizway is 6 and while they can train him harder than normal, they obviously can race him into fitness or else the would have gone to the Woodward. You act as Slew and Affirmed whipped their 3yr old foes. Affirmed was beaten easily, however in the Gold Cup his saddle slipped. The Bid made Affirmed work for every step of it in their match, so how you can imply that their attempts against older were complete failures is a mystery. Another thing that aids 3yr olds today is the length of the races they run. The top races in the division are 10, 9.5, 12, 9, and 10. Back in the 70's and 80's the distances were also long in the male divison. Now the east coast has reduced it's top races to 9f, instead of true classic distances. The west is the only place that still has 10f grade ones for their older males, and normally western trainers ship east and do not run in those races with their 3yr olds, because they are typically early in the year to take on older. The Gold Cup and even Woodward were where 3yr olds would test the waters of the older male divison. It has been done for years. Many have had success then and later in their careers. · 2224 days ago
  • 12 clip · Stay Thirsty is going nice right now, but he would be no match for Tizway. In fact I can think of a few older horses that would most likely dispose of Stay Thirsty my friends. They are: Flat Out, Twirling Candy, Game on Dude, and Acclamation, even on dirt. · 2224 days ago