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https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/224850/songbird-to-be-bred-to-arrogate-in-2018 Imo Arrogate was not the best choice for her first pairing. I understand Pope wants what is fashionable and exciting that she can brag about, but with how big Arrogate is, him being unproven as a sore, and their C rating, I would not have chosen him first. If something goes wrong like with royal delta or Rachel Alexandria- they may only be left with another cozmic one on their hands. I would not take that risk with a horse like songbird. Praying for a healthy and safe delivery and that Mom and baby will be sound. That foal will be trending on Twitter with that first photo!
Forgive my ignorance on this, but are there any tracks outside of North America (besides Meydan in Dubai) that have G1 dirt races?
"I won't retire until that baby runs!" - Mike Smith on the future mating of Songbird and Arrogate
I can't believe that 2 Pioneer of the Nile'sare wearing the dark blue. Such an ugly, plain, jockey silk. Change the silks Magnier!
I personally think that Arrogate with Songbird is a bad move by Songbird's owners, to breed to a horse that gave up. You never know what could happen, but I think AP or Tapit would have been better options for Songbird.
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Arrogate was a very good horse..Most of his fans have "hated" Chrome before Arrogate even got started..And were/still are all over the forums taking shots at Chrome and calling him "overrated" and talking about how all the horses performed after Chrome beat them..Yet when Arrogate faced Chrome it was decided at the "wire"..Arrogate and Chrome are separated by a "neck" ..So if Arrogate was this GREAT horse and Chrome was some "overrated" horse whose victims did not flatter Chrome after he beat them..Well thats makes Arrogate not that GREAT and "overrated" considering the "neck" difference between them in the Classic..(The ignorant will always bring up the Pegasus where Chrome was not the same and finished "last")...Final Analysis as proved on the track: Arrogate was only 1 desperate "neck" better than Chrome...(nobody wants to hear what baffert the ego maniac clown has to say..Just look how he was potrayed in the 50-1 movie..Like the ego maniac clown that he is)....
Let's look at the validity (or "franking") of the the winning forms of some of the famous horses by looking at how well the horses finishing second to them did against other horses in their next 2-3 starts (preferably within a few months after facing these famous horses). 1) Arrogate in 2017: He beat Shaman Ghost in the Pegasus, and Shaman Ghost validated Arrogate's winning form by winning 2 of his next 3 stake races (including a G1). He beat Gun Runner in the 2017 DWC and GR has been undefeated since. 2) California Chrome in 2014 and 2016 (in 2015 Chrome was winless): In the 2014 TC races, he beat Commanding Curve in the Kentucky Derby and Ride On Curlin in the Preakness. Both of these horses never won again against stakes company after those TC races. In 2016, he beat Mubtaahij in the DWC and Mubtaahij went on to lose his next 3 races (and kept on losing until recently). He beat Dortmund in the San Diego Handicap and Awesome Again, and Dortmund never wins again after that even when he's not racing against Chrome. He beat Beholder in the Pacific Classic and Beholder went back to the distaff.
Songbird and Arrogate💖
Arrogate was a very good horse..Most of his fans have "hated" Chrome before Arrogate even got started..And were/still are all over the forums taking shots at Chrome and calling him "overrated" and talking about how all the horses performed after Chrome beat them..Yet when Arrogate faced Chrome it was decided at the "wire"..Arrogate and Chrome are separated by a "neck" ..So if Arrogate was this GREAT horse and Chrome was some "overrated" horse whose victims did not flatter Chrome after he beat them..Well thats makes Arrogate not that GREAT and "overrated" considering the "neck" difference between them in the Classic..(The ignorant will always bring up the Pegasus where Chrome was not the same and finished "last")...Final Analysis as proved on the track: Arrogate was only 1 desperate "neck" better than Chrome...
One of the most well bred on the Derby Trail.
Hats off to WAR STORY: I just wanted to congratulate the team behind this gelding from Honest and True. In the deep stretch of the biggest race of all, SURPRISE! there he was, breathing down West Coasts neck, closing...a couple more strides, he'd a had him for sure, and if they'd run 12 furlongs that day, he just might have had them all. I sure hope he gets the superstar treatment he deserves from Looch racing,it was a gutsy effort. i'm looking forward to seeing him defend in the 2018 brooklyn handicap at 6, and hope he runs well enough to enter next years breeders cup marathon! He showed his class,competitive with the top 5 Classic horses in the world, in the biggest race of all...he belonged.
Quote.... "more easier in this sport?" you have to be kidding with that statement. Comparative words have a certain order of use. you know like good better best?
Wow....I just realized BC juvenile turf sprint winner Declarationofpeace is out of Serena's Cat. That's 4 graded stakes winnets by 3 different sires. Amazing.
Curlin's Approval worked 5f, Nov 20th, in 56.63 b) finishing 1/2.
Eagle worked 5f, Nov 20th, in 1:01.60 (B) finishing 6/16.
Stallwalkin' Dude worked 3f, Nov 20th, in 38.68 (b) finishing 19/22.
American Pharoah part 2...Most races were usually a "walk in the park" for this horse on the lead..Not very hard to win big races as a great horse when you are practically jogging alone on the lead uncontested against inferior competition..Any "trips" more easier in this sport?..Preakness (Alone on the lead in the slop)..Belmont (Alone on the lead through easy fractions..Walk in the park..No wonder he had so much horse left in the stretch)..Classic (Another uncontested walk in the park on the lead)..Lets now go to the Travers (Frosted breathing down his neck giving him a test..Keen ice nails him)..Can say what you want about circumstances coming into the Travers..But he was finally pressured without the luxury of an easy walk in the park lead...Already mentioned the lack of horses he beat in his career..Did he ever have to overcome legit horses like Arrogate/Shared Belief?..Absolutely not..Pharoah spent most of his career in big races vs inferior horses while loose on the lead coasting..(This running style was a quality)..But he was never usually tested or pressured and able to show what kind of heart he had...Only time that happened he got beat (Keen ice)...Pharoah was a BETTER horse than Chrome though (Same running styles)..That is not debatable (Only mentioning Chrome cause of my Arrogate/Shared Belief reference)...Affirmed had Alydar...Easy Goer had Sunday Silence..Even Bid had to face Affirmed..Slew faced Affirmed also..Secretariat had Sham (Many say Sham was GREAT..And he did/does hold 2nd fastest derby/preakness times).To a much lesser degree Chrome had Arrogate/Shared Belief..Pharoah had who again?.."Effinex/Frosted/Tale of Verve/Firing Line/Far Right/Madefrom lucky?..And Keen ice a "3 for 24" lifetime horse..Come on folks..Be objective here...
G1 winner Dickinson has been retired from racing and will be bred to Curlin for a 2019 foal.
Any CR filly or colt making noises as a 2 year old? 3 year old prospects?

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