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Breeders' Cup 2017

Orb Works Towards Possible Cigar Mile Start

Working towards a possible start in the Grade 1 Cigar Mile Handicap on November 30 at Aqueduct Racetrack, Kentucky Derby winner Orb returned to the worktab Sunday morning, breezing a half mile in 49.77 over the main track at Belmont.


"I thought he worked fine," said Hall of Fame trainer Shug McGaughey of the Malibu Moon colt, most recently eighth in the Grade 1 Jockey Club Gold Cup on September 28. "I asked him for :50, he went in :49 and change; 25 and change, 24 and change, and galloped out in 1:02. I'm trying to get him started again and go from there."


Orb has run twice at a mile, finishing fourth in a maiden race at Belmont a year ago and breaking his maiden at Aqueduct last November.


"I'll make up my mind in a couple of weeks," said McGaughey. "I'll just fool with him and see where it takes us."


The trainer added that 2-year-old standout Honor Code, runner-up in the Grade 1 Foxwoods Champagne on October 5, could work next week as he begins preparations for the Grade 2 Remsen on November 30 at Aqueduct.


"I've got plenty of time," said McGaughey. "I might work him next weekend, but he's not going to run until November 30, so I don't have to pound on him."




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correction--will take charge has 2 wins in a row after 4 losses in row.
orb was not pulled up in the JCGC, he just didn't run--happens to the best of horses occasionally. to say orb hasn't run a good race in 6 months is ludicrous--a third in the travers by 3/4 of a length, is a good race, even his 3rd in the belmont is a decent race--esp. given that only two closer made up any ground that day, orb being one of them, after going 5 wide in 12 furlong race. orb has had 4 loses after 6 wins in row (counting his last race in 2012). will take charge has had 3 good races in row after losing 4 in a row and having a mixed early spring. palace malice won 2 races in a row, followed by a loss, after losing 5 in a row in the spring.
Buds,Shug definately knows what he is doing,Unfortunately the guys running the show are playing fantasy horseracing and calling the shots with this horse.Handicap Shug over the past 20 years. He has done everything contrary to what made him succesful.The only other explanation,is that he became a George Costanza fan.Now believes in the Pizzaro theory.Do the opposite of your instincts.As Buck mentioned about P.O.E,that they will sell his Breeding rights to Stronach.They tried to Market Orb to his fullest.They screwed up.They destroyed a top notch racehorse.
Dani,in that race the horse he beat broke down somewhere during the race.The field he ran against were not the quality he would ever come close to facing in the Cigar Mile. I am not putting down the horse.I think he has ability.You can't ask him to beat this caliber of horse.Not since he has not run a good race in 6 months.After the Preakness,they destroyed this horse for personal glory,to run in the Belmont. He pulled up in the JCGC,do you honestly think he can handle the possibility of Verrazano att a Mile
I say moret time off is needed. I dont have an issue with the distance, but I could see a mile after a couple months off then build back up to 10 Furlongs. On the other hand, I respect Shug as a trainer, so he must know what hes doing. I dont think it has anything to do with winning the 3 yr old division.
tmallios, he also won the FOY from way off the pace.
If Shug is cutting this guy back in distance already,to read between the lines.That is not a positive move.This horses strength all year has been to stay within reach of the front runners and grind them down.He does not possess the turn of foot that can run down horses from far back.Forget the Kentucky Derby and his visually impressive close from the clouds.Pace wise,he came home in a pedestrian last call.The fact horses were stopping along the way,made it seem better than it was. With the projected field in the Cigar,a .44 half is not out of the question. At that pace,Orb can find himself double digits back in lengths. With the many questions over his head.He has not run a decent race since May 5th. I sure would not be that confident in him.If the connections are serious about running him back as a 4 yo.Do the right thing and just lay him up.Why keep him in training throughout the winter. You already accomplished a dream come true.Regardless how any one views the race.You won the Kentucky Derby. That alone makes it a succesful year. No need to push the envelope.You guys already did that once to this horse.Do not repeat your errors in such a short turnaround.
*3rd off a layoff* & *in the minds of eclipse voters* ... hehehe
i would would have pointed him towards the clark, but i can understand the cigar--cutting back in distance and 3rd off a lay off is usually a successful strategy--they want him to close the year on a win--and if he does win over older, his win will be the most recent in the minds of eclipse voters. shug is passing on the breeders cup for almost all of his horses. the sunshine millions is restricted to florida breds at gulf stream & CA breds at santa anita, and he almost certainly is pointed for the donn regardless.
Didn't Orb have a rest between the Belmont and Travers? I'm thinking they should've given the BC a shot since the majority of the major contenders will be up on what looks like a grueling pace.
Give him a rest and point to the Donn or Sunshine Millions.
Glad orb isn't headed to the breeders cup. Although I doubt he will win the cigar. I think he needs time off. As for honor code I'm happy they're passing on the juvenile

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