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Breeders' Cup 2017
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2013 Breeders' Cup Turf: Shakeup in the Lineup

Just short of three weeks out from the World Championship races at Santa Anita, news broke that proved that you can never take anything for granted. About a month ago I wrote an article giving a brief rundown of those that had earned a fees paid berth in the Breeders’ Cup Turf and listed those that were also being pointed toward the race. A lot can happen in the span of a month, as evidenced by the shakeup in the lineup for the mile and a half race.
Who’s Out
Just over a week ago, dual challenge winner Novellist was ruled out of the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe due to a fever. Trainer Andreas Wohler then made the decision to send his multiple Group 1 winner to Japan for the Japan Cup on November 24 rather than travel to California for the Breeders’ Cup due to the timing. Arc winner Treve is also more likely to head east rather than west for her next start. Should she race again this year, it will likely be at Hong Kong in December rather than California in November.
This morning news broke that Camelot, who had recently come under consideration for the Breeders’ Cup Turf, had been injured. While pulling up from his morning work, it was discovered that he was lame. The injury was not considered serious, but it did mean that the colt would be unable to continue to train for the November 2 race. On account of the injury in conjunction with the fact that he never fully regained top form after a bad bout of colic, it was decided that Camelot should be retired.
Finnegans Wake and Lucayan are also now unlikely for the Turf. Finnegans Wake, most recently 2nd in the Bowling Green Handicap, is a candidate for the Fayette Stakes at Keeneland on October 26. Lucayan will likely make his next start in the $1 million Canadian International at Woodbine, also on October 26.
Takarazuka Kinen winner Gold Ship is also unlikely to make the trip to California.
Who’s In
Due to the defection of Novellist and the unlikely start of Treve, Grandeur is now under consideration for the Turf. The 4-year old gelded son of Verglas has spent most of his career racing across the pond, but last year he raced three times in California, recording wins in the G2 Twilight Derby and G2 Hollywood Turf Cup and a second in the G1 Hollywood Derby. In his only start in the States this year, Grandeur finished 7th in the Arlington Million. Trainer Jeremy Noseda has put a line through that effort, however, because the gelding exited the race lame.
The defending Breeders’ Cup Turf champion Little Mike cut it close, but he earned a repeat fees paid trip to California to defend his title via a win in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic Invitational. Changing tactics, Little Mike and jockey Mike Smith rated off the pacesetters rather than contend for the lead. The new battle plan paid off in a big way as Little Mike was able to gain the lead turning for home and still have enough to hold off the furious closing kicks of other Turf probables Big Blue Kitten and Real Solution.
British bred Flintshire and Slumber, most recently 8th in the Arc and 4th in the Joe Hirsch respectively, have also tossed their hats in the Turf ring. They are joined by Argentinean invader Indy Point, winner of the G2 John Henry Turf Championship in his last start, John Henry runner-up Vagabond Shoes, Dixie Stakes winner Skyring, multiple Grade 1 winner Point of Entry, Gran Premio 25 de Mayo winner Ordak Dan, and the Ramsey duo of Big Blue Kitten and Real Solution. Red Mills Irish Champion Stakes winner The Fugue is still considered a “maybe” based on her qualification for both the Turf and the Filly & Mare Turf.
Point of Entry will enter the race off a nearly 5 month layoff due to a hind-leg fracture that required surgery. He has had 5 recorded works since returning to training, and trainer Shug McGaughey stated that he has time to get two more works under last year’s Turf runner-up’s belt. Both McGaughey and John Velazquez, who was aboard Point of Entry, were both very pleased with Sunday’s 5 furlong 1.01:24 bullet work over Belmont’s inner turf course. 


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skyring in a stunning upset
Thank you for the update, ollagua.
Europe are actually bringing a pretty strong hand to the BC this year IMO the fugue is the 2nd best 12f filly in the world and definitely a top 10 12f european horse. Toronado is probably UK's best miler top 3 anyway and declaration of war whos going for the classic is one of europes best 10f horses. Then you have possibilities like flintshire who is one of europes best middle distance 3yr olds plenty of quality
Its unfortunate so many of European's finest are defecting, but this will still be an amazing race. As of right now, I'll stick with my gut, and my gut says Point of Entry is going make one triumphant return to racing.
Ordak Dan is OUT of the race, he had an injury in one of his legs
I meant soft, not slow. Soft ground slows him down, that is~ It was almost like watching a carousel horse - his legs were going but the forward momentum was a lot less slow in coming and it was a bit sad to watch.
Flintshire needs good ground as slow ground really does not work for him. His trainer has said so since before the Prix Niel and all his worst races have pretty much been on soft ground. It seems to cut down his speed a good bit when he's asked to quicken in the final stages.
  • ILuvTurfRacing · @paul.nathan.946, I totally agree. If Andre Fabre sends Flintshire he wins the BC Turf. The key to him is fast ground which he's very likely to get at Santa Anita. The ground didn't suit him in the Prix Niel or the Arc, but if you watch the final 200 or so meters of Flintshire's wins in the G3 Prix Du Lys & G1 Grand Prix De Paris, both at 12f, his turn of foot in the final 200 meters was incredible. Looked more akin to a sprinters turn of foot than a middle distance type. IMO, the biggest threat to Flinshire in the BC Turf would come from The Fugue if she goes there instead of the F&M Turf, as she has a pretty amazing turn of foot on fast ground, also. · 1468 days ago
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Yes, Paul, I see he had a win at 12f over the Arc course. I'm probably looking for a 2:22-something-er. And most likely older, but I'll take this one in consideration since maybe he hates soft turf.
he was arc favorite until he met soft ground that's all that needs to be said about flintshire.
I looked up Flintshire, but I don't know. He's 3. Is he very good? Here are the ones I like: Indy Point, basically I have this idea that I see something in him, but I also just like to be right and make "discoveries", Little Mike, like him, he can do this with budgeted out speed, and he had an all-year campaign as he did last year, and Point Of Entry, if they send him I figure that means he's there to win.
  • jonquil · @Mary Z: Yes, I believe he is. He has beaten some strong fields in France, but he does not like soft ground. He'd like the ground in the BC, I suspect. It's just a matter of whether he deals with the changes and travelling well as I don't think he's raced outside of France before. · 1468 days ago
flintshire was rated joint french best 3yr old with intello before the arc, he was probably the best 3yr old in europe until he met soft ground. he looked a potential world beater as long as the fugue does not turn up it's hes IMO anyway.
well considering his layoff, it would tough to say if he is still the best middle distance horse on turf. Which is why I hope people overlook him. As for Dan, he is a miler, and a great one. Apples and oranges really.
Thanks for responding to all. Looks like Fugie, Indy and Flinty all figure for the win so far >> EPT, is POE open lengths the best of all the Americans, especially since Wise Dan won’t go this far?
sorry cutoff. I think the Euro's are to tough in here, but I will still put a few on POE if he is in the gate. He will be overlooked because of his layoff.
I think th Euro
amino, I feel both The Fugue and Flintshire have brilliant form on firm turf. Either could be put on top, but at least The Fugue has experience on the course. I would mix them up in the three places or just box them.
Personally, amino, I'd play The Fugue in the top spot. Shackleford, the only other speed I'm seeing right now is Skyring, and should he go for the lead, Little Mike has proved that he can now sit right off the pace and win.
Looking forward to this! The Fugue looks to be stronger than she's ever been. I think this race could also suit Flintshire much better than the Arc and he could definitely be up there. So I guess I'd have to stick with the ones I know the best, then, The Fugue and Flintshire and hope they do well. :)
This one looks tough. Is there any other speed outside of Little Mike? He may steal it again.

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