I do know Tony personally, unfortunately. What I've said on here (deleted and not deleted) is from personal knowledge, not from rumors I heard.
And, how about the one in the 8th at LAD? Amerocko. Recently owned by the breeder John Hulsey, "sold" (surely by Tony at a 10% commission) to Gabriel Suarez, but Tony's still the trainer. Ran for $10,000 back in March, dropped to $5,000 for his most recent 3 starts with 2 2nd's & a win. Now the new owner thinks Tony is a "super trainer", like Martinez thinks, but the horse probably should be at $10,000 anyway. And this crook made a commission off the sale & still has the horse. Everybody should look in this guy's eyes when he talks. He's a liar and a crook. But, give the devil his due, he'll do anything to win. Only question is: Can you afford it?
Take for example a horse running today at LAD in the 9th race: Lucky Matika. Claimed on 5/20/10 for $12,500, Tony ran her back on 7/4/10 for $20,000, only to run 4th like she ran for $12,500. He ran her back for $5,000, only to run 8th. Back in today for $12,500. Hate to be Nicky Rowell. Probably $5,000 or more in "training" and vet expenses, with about $500 income.
I do know for a fact that I am correct, thanks for you confirmation. I just worry about some of Tony rubbing off on Joey. Another trick of Tony's is to get a horse from one owner & sell to another, making a commission. Then, he'll sell it once again to another owner, making another commission. This process goes on, making a commission each time, and continuing to be the trainer of the horse. He's got a ton of tricks in his bag, that's why it's best for everyone to stay away from him. And yes, "crook & snake" describe him perfectly. I've scraped better than him off the bottom of my boots...
Does martinez = flores ???
Hello again, "martinez". "Great" is a huge overstatement of the facts. Almost anyone can claim a horse who ran 2nd for $5,000, "train" them for 4 months & run them back for $5,000, again running 2nd only to have them claimed back by the previous owner/trainer. Believe me, I know plenty about this crook (at least we agree on that fact!). Like I said previously, he's got YOU trained pretty well.
Yeah, martinez, joey is/was the trainer behind tony. I wouldn't say either one is "great", but they do have success dropping horses. I've met joey, thanks but no thanks on him either.
Hey, martinez, did you go back and read what you posted? His "job" is conning you and people like you. He doesn't train the HORSES, just the OWNERS. So, I guess he's done a great job with you...
The "King of the $5,000 claimers" is striking at LaD, AGAIN. Out of nine races, there were 7, count 'em, 7, 5,000 claiming races. Tony had horses in 5 of them. Hahaha. Mr. $5,000. What a joke he is! Anybody can win races dropping everything to the bottom. He's a loser.
What happened to all the wins, thb4ever? Did they go away with the "juice"?