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Don't give up on him!

Don't give up on him!

Why did you put this under Violence?

I like Bobby, but Pletcher doesn't so well in the KB.

I won't attack you. You're right.

URR, I think that Shanghai Bobby would have a better chance than Bern. Bern Identity ran 3 races and lost 3 races. If Bern Identity won the Kentucky Derby there would be 2 more races, in 5 weeks. it's still the 3 year old stage, we still have another 13 days. You should stick with your resolution and pick the best horse.

that rider has the ability to do it

When are you not? We all have our winning horses. Some of us are right and some are wrong, we'll see who the better horse is after the race.

I have fave two year olds. But I don't make my DERBY favorite until I read the PP's.

This is debatable.

I said I would stop with terrible post positions, I have faith in Bern.

@Zen they can get really bad or really good. Shanghai's chances are probably going downhill if Todd doesn't train him to focus. URR, if that were on Bern Identity's page would you still say that?

Well, he does have a TC winner in his pedigree, but only one BC Juvy champion has won the KY Derby and it took a brilliant ride from Borel to do it.

^^^^^ I meant CHAMPION miler.... Not routing.

Exactly cocoa^^

Watch my boy, Mylute. He's got big shoes to fill.

Violence was not sold, and will not be sold until there is actual proof. Northport, if you don't have facts I think I can speak for all of HRN in saying there is no hankering for heart attacks

Anybody know anything about" GRAYBIGNBADLIKEDAD"? 3 year old colt with 2 races under his belt, what are his stables colors?

There's been no official report of that yet

Hansen could have been an excellent 3 yr old. He was just thrown into races that were far too long for him. 8.5f was his breaking point IMO. He was decent at best at 9f. He could have made some real noise anywhere between 7f and 8.5f

there is a statement on twitter saying "Pletcher told Mike Welsch that Violence is okay and will work Sunday. Article on DRF later today

I will say whatever is on my mind, no matter what. You can always get my 100% opinion. If Bern does something wrong at a long distance and Bobby doesn't... then sure, course I would say that. I'll stick with whoever I feel best fit to Derby standards, and right now I am pretty back and forth between Bern and Uncaptured.

The only great part for me would be First female part... lol

Violence is off the TC trail, apparently he has been sold and/or injured... many rumours flying. The reason Hansen didn't make noise as a three year old was not his fault, and was the result of insane management, which I believe Bobby will not have. Hansen could have run in shorter races and still had a decent chance at the Preakness with a successful career as a miler.

sorry I meant he won't make it as a three year old

I have grown to not give a shit, everyone looks hilarious when their kentucky derby 2 year olds turn into kentucky derby also-rans

I am going to get attacked for this, but I think that he is just a really good two-year old, but won't make it as a two year old. He almost lost the BC Juvenile. He is like a really great high school quarter back, but gets lost during his professional career. Know what I mean? Take Hansen for example. Fantastic 2-year old, but never made it as a three year old. I think Violence will win.

I guess we will. Only being at 8.5 I think Bobby will take it, but Florida Derby watch for Bern to close in quickly!

that would be great!

They sold Violence? Wow, who would sell a perfect 3 year old.... is he still going to race?

Yawn @robert.throckmorton. Don't forget to check back in on the 1st Sunday in May.

Oh, good. Sorry, I just took his/her word. But, northport is spot on about Hansen. I have grew to HATE Shanghai Bobby's threads. I hate talking about his distance potential, I hate it. He is a great colt, let's just enjoy watching him run, and we'll see his distance ability LATER.

This is the first I heard of this news..... Violence was sold and/or injured? What a shame. @Northport: Spot on. @URR: You can't really say Zenyatta1216 is RIGHT. I, too, think he is not a derby horse. I think he is a champion-type miler. But, who knows, he could still be a derby horse, but I see it HIGHLY unlikely. @Zenyatta: I don't think Shanghai Bobby is a derby horse. BUT, you are wrong..... He was not an early bloomer. YOU WATCH, IF HE STAYS SOUND, AND RACES DEEP INTO HIS THREE YEAR OLD YEAR OR FOUR YEAR OLD YEAR, you will see a CHAMPION emerge. This horse has INSANE potential...... I don't think he will make any noise in the derby, but saying he "won't make it" is a bad assumption. Second, Hansen COULD HAVE BEEN a success, but his owner was trying to make him something he wasn't. Hansen was really good at 7-8.5 furlongs, anything more or less was out of his comfort zone. IN his comfort zone, however, Hansen had great potential to be a GREAT, GREAT miler, and there is NOTHING wrong with that.