even with this loss, if he starts, he'll still go off as the favorite by a long shot--a lot of his fans and the pretty pony people will be betting him just as a way of showing solidarity with him.
beholder, if she goes, will prob. be 2nd in favoritism, not just because of the PC but also because of the mare-factor, but honor code is going to be right there with her. and if he wins the JCGC, he may go off 2nd in the wagering.
one thing's for sure, unless the race comes up a complete dud, AP can't get away with the excuse that one fast 1/2 mile in a mile and 1/4 race is too much to ask of a champion. his competition has already shown they don't wilt under the heat.
people are saying that yesterdays loss ranks up there with zenyatta and blame and slew and excellor. but neither of they were truly fighting and lost by noses. slew's fractions were 22.60 for the first quarter, 45.20 for the half and 1:09.40 for 6f. for pete's sake. can you imagine how many lengths slew would destroy AP by? AP has never come close to fractions like those.
but 46 and change after 48 and change and followed by 26 and change--how can you expect a horse to handle that?!! have you no decency!!!
lol. "it was the fastest mile in travers history...but oh, i only bothered to check back 25 years." lol let's forget about the other 151 runnings, what the track may have been like on any of those days. and general assembly and easy goers' travers.
it's very convenient that you made the cut off date the year after easy goer's travers in 2:00.8, which he earned after running 23 and 1, 46 and 4, 1:10 and 3, and 1:35 and 1. and he didn't crawl home either--he made a huge move on the turn for home, fought down the stretch, and pulled off to win by 3 in the last 16th.
you mentioned point given in 2001, well let's see-- point given hopped at the start, poured it on at the top of the stretch, battled all the way down the stretch THREE WIDE and to pulled off and win it by 3 "driving" in 2:01.4: the first quarter was in 23 and 1, the half was in 47 and 3, 6f in 1:11 and the mile in 1:35 and 4.
bringing up point given doesn't help your argument, it hurts is quite a bit--point given not only ran faster than AP, he had a bad start, ran wide the entire race, and wasn't cooked by similar fractions. great horses don't get cooked. they do the cooking.
ps: one should expect a TC winner's travers times to be among the best in history,...i mean he's competing against the likes of golden ticket.
if you are impressed with 46 and change, following 48 and change, and followed by 26 and change. that's perfectly legit. but you can't expect anyone else to be impressed with that, esp. by a TC winner and horse that has been hailed as the greatest of all time...ALL TIME!!
no it wasn't. better excuse: he wasn't the best horse on the day.
lol! ..abused..if he'd won, you'd be saying that zayat should be elected to the hall of fame as the greatest owner ever. and bring on the JCGC, this horse is an iron horse...
looks really bad for the 1st TC winner in 37 years to take his ball and go home right after he lost.
even by next year, all people will remember if he does, is that once he finally got headed, he lost, and then slunk off the stage...because next year there will be a horse, some horse, who knows what horse it will be, but there will be a horse, and he or she will be on everyone's lips and nobody will be talking about this horse that won't be on anyone's mind again until around 2018..and then only as long as his first crop or two pan out and in ten years, he'd just be the TC winner who lost while still just racing in restricted races and then quit.
just spit out my soda, thanks for that
maybe, just mabye it wasn't a question of what victor and AP allowed that they shouldn't have, but what they were unable to do that you wish they had...just a thought...AP looked like he was going to loose from the 1/4 pole on.
i'm disappointed, i expected to see at least one response saying what crap beyers are...since you know...AP's beyers are as good...
do you watch horse racing? whatever bumping that occurred yesterday was kindergarten stuff...this sport is incredibly dangerous by nature, just ask joel rosario...
when has victor not been a cry baby in defeat...
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