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For his front running style, he won't last much over a mile. He doesn't have enough staying power.

I agree with both of you. I do think he has a schance to get nine though. A chance.

i wish people would give Bobby a chance instead of putting him down.

I mean this horse is leaps and bounds better than Secret Circle, and he was a more recent horse who noticably couldn't handle longer distances. Bobby does have secretariat and affirmed in the bloodline too for what its worth

Wrong Dafish. UR had a distance pedigree. People who didn't know anything bagged on him. I agree with Dressage on 95 percent of his/her posts, same thing. UR had tons of distance loaded into his pedigree. People were ONLY looking at his sire. On the other hand, breeding is a crapshoot, but you can tell certain things from it. You can base your opininon on his ability to run long distances on his performance, or on his pedigree. His pedigree says no on long distances. His performances say no to long distances. He is 0-2, however you base your opinion on the subject. I base it on both and he doesn't fit into either catergory. HE WILL BE A MONSTER AT 8.5 AND LOWER, maybe G3 horse at 9 FURLONGS, no way he gets ten. He has no stamina influences.

***ripping APART SB

the people that I consider experts are the ones who visit the window twice, once to wager and once to collect, period!

TV, you know what we mean by fade. 98 percent of races fractions get slower each time, we understand they get tired. Dafish...... This horse will not get past 9 furlongs, there is no chance, unless he has the X-Factor. 8.5 or lower....... This horse is a monster. I give that label to many horses, but at middle distances, he has the potential to be a beast.

Dressage, right again. I like the way you think.

Like I've stated before, I believe that it will be incredible if he is competitive at 9f, but believe he will be an absolute monster 8.5f and below considering he is already easily dominating those his age in that distance

Look at the fractions of almost ANY race out there in the main track. Work out the quarter fractions of just about any horse in the contest. THEY ALL DECELERATE.....Now grass is a different ball game. Babies decelerate even faster than mature horses....unless your name is Secretariat.

i have a question cocoa, that i'm sure EVERYONE around here is wondering. WHY ARE YOU SUCH A BUZZKILL.?

Dressage, hindsight is 20/20. The way I picked UR was I knew he would be close to the pace and on the inside. Your assumption he could go 12f - he can't. When none of the horses can bet the horse in front

every year, everyone rips the top horse about distance. Union Rags got hammered on this site about not having a good pedigree for distance, but he always seemed to want more, and ended up winning the Belmont. I for one am going to support and believe in this horse until he proves otherwise.

All dirt racers decelerate in each fraction....he is no exception

Anyone who thinks he was fading at the end of the BCJ didn't watch the race correctly. Also, please watch post race interview with his jockey, Napravnik..even she said, he still has some growing up to do and that he has a habit of slowing down voluntarily when there are no horses in front of him. She has said in other interviews they are working on training bobby to stalk the lead for a longer period of time to prevent this from happening at longer distances. Either way, this horse is BEAST.

@UnionRagsRules Bobby wasn't fading at the end of the Juvenile. At the top of the stretch he slowed down because he was waiting for competition. Once He's Had Enough confronted him he dug in again and didn't let He's Had Enough pass.

...attack? what is he, a terrorist on opinions? Somebody call the grammar police

Wrong thread, kateline? Your right though.

I am sorry for defending the old way and those in third world countries without a source of protein. Condemn me to my atheist hell. I have more important things to do than try to talk reason to those who won't accept it. In my mind you, kaitline, are my Al Qaeda - I can talk reason and offer you the world but you'll never take anything but your original goal.

.... So? So do 100s of other race horses. Plus his secretariat blood is to far back to really be influential. SB is a good two year old, who has a lot to prove. He is not secretariat, he is not affirmed etc getting tired of such Comparisons..

I could list dozens and dozens with Secretariat blood that could not beat a fat man down a hill. It is not the be all just because it came from a legend

attack? I just said I did not agree; you thought it was tragic. I said it was part of life. Religion was never brought into it, I was making a metaphor about how you are holding an unwavering position

He was fading (as does every horse). Look at the fractions

There you go Dressage spot on again!

Anyone who ever said that according to UR's pedigree he couldn't get the distance doesn't know much about horse racing. His dam's side is packed with it. Sb's has only two stamina influences on his dam's side, both 5th generation. If you can give me the name for a horse who got 10f with two or less stamina influences on the dam's side, be my guest. No one is ripping about SB, merely being factual

Dressage3295, while I respect your opinions on horses for the most part, the only way I can ascertain your position on pedigree is from a historical view. If that is the case why would experts bother to create a horse like Shanghai Bobby knowing in advance he would be a sprinter at best? You having horses know the cost of just keeping them not to mention the cost of supplementing horses to stakes and other races before it's known if they will ever start in them. I was in with standardbreds for a long while with three others who were older and more knowledgeable than I was and still we barely broke even as owners. Considering only about 30% of horses bred to race ever even make it to the races and of that only a small percentage make it to graded stakes it would seem from everything I know that it's still comes down to luck. Your position puzzles me. If you could clarify it a little it would be appreciated. Thanks

Watch it again, He didn't let him pass but right after the wire HHE passed him up. His front running style will not hold up much longer.

He'll be a great miler up to nine furlongs. Doesn't look to be a distance horse though.\

I'll claim him :)

whoops that was the wrong threat. & i'm not condemning you for RELIGIOUS beliefs. why must we drag religion into things. i never said anything bad about third world countries. i made a comment on a post about Ferdinand saying it was tragic. thats my belief. & then you RUDELY attacked me.

He had his chance. He was fading at the end of the BCJ. I just can't give him a chance.

I remember predicting the same for uncle mo