Don't interrupt a good rant with facts!!
Excellent points that most people may not be aware of. If you following So Cal racing, you know that Victor is never really the best dirt or turf rider, and that’s even more true for Mike Smith. Mike is very good in dirt routes, but in dirt sprints, turf sprints, and turf routes he’s very average. He doesn’t consistently move horses up on those surfaces. Having written that, it doesn’t take away from the fact that they both have performed well when on good horses, and that has to be commended because sometimes the best horse loses due to jockey error. Kudos to their agents for helping them get
Not This Time blew away Looking at Lee by over 8 lengths but he's not a star? Some might say it was the slop, but the race was a repeat of his maiden breaker at Ellis Park. He runs like his his half brother Liam's Map. He's the real deal.
Consider his logic: Arrogate fluked into his 4th win in a row in the Travers but horses he beat in that fluky race came back to win and finish ITM in the Penn Derby. On the other hand, Nyquist is on a 3 race losing streak, the last 2 races finishing off the board, but Arrogate is the one most likely to finish dead last in the BCC. Throw in the fact that Baffert has won the last 2 BCCs, meaning he probably knows if he has a horse that can be competitive in that race and how to get the horse prepared. DerbyDoc's logic is extremely flawed and emotional. He's getting his emotions mixed up in his handicapping. That's never a good thing.
Did you have the winner? BTW what is your old handle?
I didn't say he was done. I said he should aim lower based on his current form. You blamed the wet track for his prior two losses, and now he was a short horse? I think beating Swipe multiple times and Majesto and the like deceived many. There are no easy leads or hapless pace horses to draft behind now at 9 and 10 furlongs. In the BC dirt mile he could use his speed and hope to run the field off their feet or get first run at the leader. In the Malibu he could do the same thing. Those are more reasonable goals than the Classic or Pegasus. BTW Chrome ran won the first 2 legs of the Triple Crown, ran 3rd in the 2014 BC Classic and 2nd in the 2015 World Cup. He ran big races multiple times after the Kentucky Derby. Nyquist not so much. They don't belong in the same sentence to be fair.
The author of the this post asks "What will it take for us to mention her among the same breath as racing’s other recent queens." She wants to compare Songbird to horses like Rachel. I suggest she reviews their accomplishments before thinking defeating Land Over Sea multiple times qualifies Songbird as being "historic".
Songbird is a nice horse but she hasn't done anything really historic or special yet. She doesn't belong in the same sentence as Rachel Alexandra, for example, as at this point in Rachel's year she'd won 3 grade 1 races against males: The Preakness, Haskell, & Woodward. Now that's historic. Beating Carina Mia a couple of times and Cathryn Sophia once doesn't compare. If Songbird wins the Distaff then she'd have a better case but at this point there's not a lot to talk about.
He should shorten up at this point. The Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile or the Cigar Mile would give his connections a chance to see if he could be competitive at that distance. A better option would be the Malibu since it would give him a final chance at a grade 1 race which could win him the Eclipse if Arrogate doesn’t win the Breeders’ Cup Classic.
Except he's run on a wet surface 3 times and never won. His 3 victories are on a fast track. The Haskell could have been an aberration, or some combination of the jockey change and time away from racing moved him up. We'll know more after Saturday.
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