I didn't say he was done. I said he should aim lower based on his current form. You blamed the wet track for his prior two losses, and now he was a short horse? I think beating Swipe multiple times and Majesto and the like deceived many. There are no easy leads or hapless pace horses to draft behind now at 9 and 10 furlongs. In the BC dirt mile he could use his speed and hope to run the field off their feet or get first run at the leader. In the Malibu he could do the same thing. Those are more reasonable goals than the Classic or Pegasus. BTW Chrome ran won the first 2 legs of the Triple Crown, ran 3rd in the 2014 BC Classic and 2nd in the 2015 World Cup. He ran big races multiple times after the Kentucky Derby. Nyquist not so much. They don't belong in the same sentence to be fair.
The author of the this post asks "What will it take for us to mention her among the same breath as racing’s other recent queens." She wants to compare Songbird to horses like Rachel. I suggest she reviews their accomplishments before thinking defeating Land Over Sea multiple times qualifies Songbird as being "historic".
Songbird is a nice horse but she hasn't done anything really historic or special yet. She doesn't belong in the same sentence as Rachel Alexandra, for example, as at this point in Rachel's year she'd won 3 grade 1 races against males: The Preakness, Haskell, & Woodward. Now that's historic. Beating Carina Mia a couple of times and Cathryn Sophia once doesn't compare. If Songbird wins the Distaff then she'd have a better case but at this point there's not a lot to talk about.
He should shorten up at this point. The Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile or the Cigar Mile would give his connections a chance to see if he could be competitive at that distance. A better option would be the Malibu since it would give him a final chance at a grade 1 race which could win him the Eclipse if Arrogate doesn’t win the Breeders’ Cup Classic.
Except he's run on a wet surface 3 times and never won. His 3 victories are on a fast track. The Haskell could have been an aberration, or some combination of the jockey change and time away from racing moved him up. We'll know more after Saturday.
He's not running. The communications from Woodbine say so.
Please don't. If you're right it makes you look like a very astute handicapper. Strong opinions are great. At the same time, it is sort of an odd twist that you've gone from the biggest supporter of Nyquist to one of the biggest critics of Arrogate. Are you willing to now admit Nyquist wasn't what you thought? Finally, V.E Day, Alpha, & Afleet Express all won the Travers by a nose (Alpha in a weird dead heat with Golden Ticket), and the Derby runner up, Preakness winner, and/or Haskell winner weren't in the field of any of those race. A nose is not as dominant or concrete as 13 lengths. Actually, the Derby winner and 3rd place finisher were in Afleet Express's 2010 Travers race, but both had finished off the board in 2 subsequent starts since the Kentucky Derby, which was arguably the weakest Kentucky Derby in the last 20 years.. Using those years would be comparing apples to oranges. 2006/Bernardini would be a better comparison IMO. Bluegrass Cat was was second in the Derby and Belmont, won the Haskell, but had nothing for Bernaridini in the Travers. Or Even 2009 with Summer BIrd wouldn't be a bad comparison. We'll see soon.
So the wet track is what beat Nyquist? How about no loose leads. That's more likely the culprit.
You can stop thinking. It's impossible. Cupid probably won't win this race, but even if he did 2 or 3 minor grade 2 races won't trump horses that have multiple grade 1's and there are a few.
Visually he looks good but he's running against FL breds and is slowing down late in races as the distance stretches out. It's doubtful the horses he's running against will be a factor in the juvenile stakes races later this year. On the other hand, Liam's Map's half brother Not This Time recently broke his maiden at 8 furlongs in impressive fashion. I would guess he'll run in the Iroquois next weekend at Churchill so we'll get a reading on where he is versus some of the known 2 year olds at this point.
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