What are those speed figs based on?
Not a huge Beyer fan, but what about this factually incorrect?
How do you know they're any good. They've only beaten each other. Lets not pass judgment until they face olders. But let me state.....AP is a great horse.....how great we will see.
Not disputing any of that.....just stating the fact that this crop of 3 year olds might not be that good.
Coach Inge ran 2:27 flat earlier in the day in the Brooklyn. AP is a great horse, but I don't think this year's 3 yo crop is nearly as good as many do. Coach Inge would have beaten every horse except AP had he been in the Belmont (based solely on times), and he took 5 races to break his maiden and had never run in a stakes race of any kind before yesterday.
Not true...Sarava, Commendable, Crème Fraiche, Conquistador Cielo and Damascus all had DI over 4.00 and won the Belmont.
I'm aware of that.....let me rephrase it.....no winner of the Belmont raced on lasix before the mid 1990's, and many of them put forth efforts good enough to win this edition. If the horse has never bled, why use it?
No triple crown winner ever ran on lasix in the Belmont. It was outlawed in New York until I believe 1994 or 1995. If this horse doesn't get it done, furosemide won't be the reason.
I know that this is slightly off topic.....but still pedigree related.....look at the pedigrees of the last 10 Epsom Derby winners and compare them to the pedigrees of the last 10 Kentucky Derby winners. The winners at Epsom are, in general, by well bred superior race horses and are out of either well bred productive mares, superior racing mares, or both. The winners of the Kentucky Derby, in general, are not. In fact, how far back do you have to go to find a Kentucky Derby winner who turned out to be either a great sire or great broodmare sire?
Haters? What did I post that could possibly make you think that I hate this horse? I've seen every derby since 1964 and don't have an emotional attachment to any of them......nor did I particularly care who you or anyone else touted in the race. Facts are facts....the American thoroughbred is no longer bred to run farther than a mile and an eighth. As someone stated in another post, horses no longer win the Derby....they survive it.
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