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Congrats Kaitlin.

It is being developed into residential and commercial units.

Kay. One thing I found in Vosburgh's book Horse Racing in America 1866-1921, he speaks of a horse Banastar who had terrible temperment issues because he was highly inbred to Lexington. He has some information about Cinderella. Noting she was very difficult and Hastings took after her, but says nothing about Plaudit or her other foals Migraine etc. being difficult.

Kay. I can understand FP having issues from the treatment you speak of. But MOW was a handful, his sons War Relic, War Admiral, Hard Tack etc. were difficult. Seabiscuit who was a grandson of MOW and a great great grandson of Hastings was a handful at times. So that line really was noted for temperment issues.

Yes cocoa. I think you're right about Empire Maker. His son Pioneer of the Nile had a winner and may well be very successful at stud.

Kay. Yes I have heard she was a difficult and bad tempered. But it is interesting her other foals like Plaudit, who was a KD winner and highly thought of, were not bad tempered. Or at least no one has said he was that I can find. Only Hastings seems to have been hot tempered and known for that. I'll look through some of my books about her other foals and see if I find anything.

Jay. Exactly. Gotta let the kid know his proper place in the family hierarchy. Elmo gave the name Abby a two paws up. Tell Limpy.

SS. If you have never read Seabiscuit, it is a wonderful book. Based on A chapter in David Alexander's book A Sound of Horses: The World of Racing From Eclipse To Kelso. It is a wonderful book. Available in both ebook and paperback etc.

SS. Good work. Positive reinforcement for Monkey with Abby. Elmo approves of the name Abby. Knew you were waiting for his personal approval.

SS. There is some info about him in Hillenbrands Seabiscuit in the beginning when she speaks about Seabiscuit's sire Hard Tack who was almost ruled off the turf because he savaged many asst starters. Hard Tack was so bad that Gladys Phipps could not stand him at Claiborne because the Hancocks didn't want him. In there she discusses how bad some of the MOW's were and she mentions War Relic who stomped one of his grooms to death.