KevinDavis

cocoa... so first you suggest he go back in time to prove he is better than horses that have been dead for decades... then you say that shergar was so great because he opened up on his competition then kept going... have you not seen the 2011 2000 guineas? the 2011 sussex stakes? the 2012 queen anne? I suggest using the amazing world wide web and watching frankel's races before you try to compare him to horses that all races 10+ years ago...

i like discussing past champions as well, but blatantly stating that a horse running today could not face one of yesteryear is just a silly comparison for both horses, and to not take into account both racing styles of horses like say Shergar or Frankel when comparing them isn't fair to either. If it is going to be a discussion of horses through history it may as well be an informed one

Wow, I forgot Nathaniel, stupid. He's a bad horse to kevin?

NEVER a Bid fan (the Meyerhoffs and Delp were kind of jerks) but, his performance in the walk over was impressive.

Cocoa- Who the hell did Shergar Beat?...his class of 3yr olds were like THIS years 3year olds in europe. Made Camelot look good, and so it did for Shergar during his 3yr old campaign. Now let's look at the 3 year olds from Frankels class and how many of them were real GR1 winners.............I start with Nathanial, Excelebration, Treasure Beach, Roderic O'conner ALL Classic winners, and/or multiple GR1 winners. Ribot is a different Story I can't argue. But instead of Shergar, why not Nijinsky, or Dancing Brave?. Both of those horses I rate above Frankel slightly.

Thank you for that link Northport. That is a very impressive list. Should serve as a reality check to everyone who says he hasn't beaten anyone.

Cirrus Des Aigles isn't a good horse? Is Excelebration a bad horse? What about St. Nicholas Abbey? Bad as well? Farhh, bad? Master of Hounds? Get a life, instead of bagging a great horse and question him, ADMIRE HIS GREATNESS, HE CAN ONLY BEAT WHO FACES HIM

Frankel would beat a 100 GR1 winners and it still wouldn't matter to some of you....lol.. GET A CLUE!

WOW the ignorance of some on here is hilarious. WHY COMMENT if you have NO CLUE???. Frankel beat VERY VERY good horses at a mile, and 10.5f. get bent you clueless fools!.

Ribot, Brigadier Gerard, Shergar, Dubai Millenium and Njinksy II, The Minstrel. I know little about the world's racing before I was born, but I rank him 7. Usain Colt, haha! Shergar beat the best he could, and he didn't just beat them, he opened up on them and kept going!

Any champion, current or past can only take on'all comers' there is nothing more.

On the whole, European sports magazines withhold superlatives until they are needed. They were needed with this one.

Usain Colt as his team calls him.

how true, kind of reminds one of Man O' War, Ruffian, and especially Spectacular Bid running against no one.

.. on english turf. Throw him at the italians' Ribot or even send him to face Ireland's Shergar and he is toast.

He beat Excelebration- a multiple graded stakes winner who in any other year would've been a champion himself- five times. Also St. Nicholas Abby- winner of the Breeder's Cup Turf- at a distance more suited to him rather than Frankel, Nathaniel- a multiple graded stakes winner- over 8f and 10f, and Cirrus Des Aigles- a horse who is given much praise for his accomplishments winning graded stakes and beating some good horses- at once again not Frankel's best distance. Would you like to fix your statement Kevin?

I didn't say he should go back in time, if you hate these threads so much then leave. I find discussing horses throughout history interesting

I'll have to post some photos: Bid in the California autographed by Shoe and another about his work out (rather than run in the Hollywood Gold CUp that I fewl down to see and he scratched!)

Welcome to discussing horses on HRN. Anyway, I stated my opinion. You disagree, put facts down and we'll compare. That is how it works.

Didnt beat much? He beat some of the best horses in the world and made it look easy!

http://frankel.juddmonte.com/race-career/horses-beaten.aspx ... what a group of nags, eh? only 20+ g1 winners in 6+ countries

Why would you ask that? Did Repole renew his threat? Otherwise why wouldn't it.

It has, in reent years, become so commercilaized with all those extraneous categories that it has lost a lot from its inception

icy, "It will happen." Cuz I'll be there, so no choice.

How would you go about setting it Up?