CauseForConcern, that was a hasty reply on my part as I'm a huge fan of Zenyatta. However yes I would have loved to see her too step outside her comfort zone more than once. I don't agree with the concept owners owe nothing to the fans, as the fans, before the casinos stepped in made everything possible by paying the bills. My feeling is if all of us involveld in this great sport don't take an active role a time in the not to distant future will come when we won't have anything left of this. Everyone makes a difference. Saying it doesn't is like telling someone not to vote because it doesn't make a difference. Again this is JMO so if anyone disagrees it's their right to do so.
That's hard for me to do considering they went for the two at Churchill in 2010 after shipping a known bad shipper 2,000 miles, only to lose by 8 inches in what I consider to be not only her greatest race, but one of the all time best races ever, when they could have quit at 19-0. Wise Dan is definately not in her class! She was great at the classic distance on two surfaces as opposed to the standbred distance WD keeps running on the putting green. How many horses in the history of racing do you think could have run down Blame? The same Blame that ran down Quality Road at Saratoga at 9f. She provided more excitement in one race than WD has in his whole career. IMO she should have gotten HOTY IN 2008 as well. Curlin was a good horse but he was no Zenyatta!
As for going for the 2 point conversion it was absolutely the right thing to do as history shows in examples of other coaches in similar situations. Pat Dye, the Auburn coach in 1988 losing 16-13 in the Sugar Bowl against Syracuse went for the field go instead of a touchdown for the win on fourth down and seconds to play on the opponents 13 yard line and got a tie, along with the enmity of all fans and players, his included. In 1966, number #1 ranked Notre Dame's head coach Ara Parseghian made a decision to settle for a tie and the national championship against a Michigan State team ranked number #2. Again he earned the enmity of all, to this day. In the end Tom Osborne lost the game but gained immense respect, unlike Ara Parseghian who has been criticized ever since, just like his modern day copy cat Pat Dye. Vince Lombardi known for his saying ``Winning is not everything, it`s the only thing," later expanded on that statement, saying he wished he never said it because if you go out and play and leave nothing behind, the score doesn't matter, but neither Ara Parseghian in 1966, Pat Dye in 1988, or Morton Fink in 2013 did that . So what do Ara Parseghian, Pat Dye, and Morton Fink have in common? cowardice. The first two people mentioned know it and deeply regret their decision, while Morton Fink revels in it and never misses a chance to let the fans of horse racing know it. While people like Tom Osborne, Bob Baffert and the owners of Game On Dude have respect, which is worth more than any award. Sure they lost a couple of races but not any respect from anyone. I remember in 1988 the papers in upstate New York were giving out the address of Pat Dye and urging people to send him a tie, something I did. Those kids, many of whom I knew from Syracuse deserved to win or be carried off the field on their shields in defeat, they got neither. Life= risk, anything else is a state of coma. Hopefully Morton Fink will live a long and happy life, and when he dies will be forced to watch Wise Dan replays for all eternity. I wonder what he'd give for that extra furlong or two at that point? As for HOTY, "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
kaitlinefree1, I would suggest you direct your remark to Buckpasser. He knows where to get it whether he has it or not. Like walking into a library of horse racing. Just be a little more precise in describing your interests. It's nice to have such a decent person that he'll share his knowledge as though you were his equal on this site. PS. Buckpasser I would have given an arm and a leg to see Speedy Scott and Su Mac Lad, thanks again for sharing.
No, it was a serious answer. Due to personal issues I haven't been into racing seriously up until the past few weeks.
Since I don't undestand your question I can't properly answer except repeat my comment.
and I said "icyhotboo · goblin, I respect others viewpoints, and Jenna is certainly entitled to hers as are you. Actually I haven't been into racing this year at all and may have gotten a little carried away. Quite honestly after posting that last comment I had to take a quick sanity test on myself. The reason being was, that particular race was one of my favorites of all time. I would love to see more like that, in water on the turf · 14 minutes ago ·"
goblin, I respect others viewpoints, and Jenna is certainly entitled to hers as are you. Actually I haven't been into racing this year at all and may have gotten a little carried away. Quite honestly after posting that last comment I had to take a quick sanity test on myself. The reason being was, that particular race was one of my favorites of all time. I would love to see more like that, in water on the turf.
All graded stakes aren't the same! WD carried an impost of a whopping 129lbs high weight this year. 4yos were lucky to get 130lbs in their second start. Of course that's acient history. In other words we have a brilliant 3yo who had as many times in the money (7) as Wise Dan had races, and comparatively raced in every real grade 1s as possible. Plus finished the year a few inches away from beating the best dirt horses of any age. If he did win the BCC would we still be talking about Wise Dan whose owner consistently takes the path of least resistance. That great race in the water by Wise Dan took place in the Firecracker Grade 2 with a purse of $150,000. The second place finisher's next start was in a $64,000 allowance race to put it in perspective.
If you don't ask your horse at the top of the stretch at the tracks mentioned there's no sense racing them. That's just the way those tracks play and to be competitive you have to use the track layout to best advantage. GOD got a perfect set up, he just got beat in a race that played out the way it figured on paper. To close to call.
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