If this were true he wouldn't have a G1 record;) Please stop filling up the page.
Oh btw if you have time would you mind checking out my idea for a new stat to more accurately compare times? It's the big post above. I'd really appreciate your feedback! It is true being a closer doesn't make him a rotuer but we've seen Frosted do well at 9, 10 and 12 before. I'm speaking of the specific scenario of him catching the leader in the stretch. We all saw in the Met against inferior horses even a mile is just fine for the closing style(and so is shorter). Against these kinds of horse that's not the case.
If you didn't post so many times especially on just one page, no one would call for the mod. If you don't want to get kicked you should distribute your posts to other pages and unless you have a new idea(not 6/17,6/17,6/17 for 15 plus posts) or are answering a reply don't post. This is why you were removed last time(to my knowledge, I'm no mod nor do I claim to be)because you did 20 plus posts in a very short period of time. This is a hot topic and a bunch of replies moves other peoples content further down the page and derails conversation. When the people who tend to be on your side of this argument are telling you to leave, that means you're doing something wrong. People here have a diverse set of beliefs and we often argue and call us each other names but at the end of the day we'd all agree that there is no reason to call a horse a "bum". You are either the second or third troll to invade this page over the last two days. This is the only place I can talk about my favorite sport because no one I know in real life cares in the slightest, please don't ruin it, by posting the same thing twenty times.
Well if I think he's better than CC and I think CC's one of the best 100 ever, you should be able to put two and two together.
That correlation though isn't because closers don't like the 10, it's because the best races and competition happen to be at 10. Frosted did run the 12 in 2.27.59 so he doesn't have distance limitations. He just ran into a great crop led by a TC winner. His 0-5 at 10 or longer has three great performances and only one truly bad one(that 7th looks far worse than it was) No question CC has gotten better. If you'd told me he'd have went on this run prior to the DWC, I'd have told you you're nuts(and I think I did tell a few people that lol) I honestly think the DWC was a fluke though and that Frosted is a better horse.
Effinex isn't a deep closer and against a horse like Tonalist actually was the one getting reeled in at the Suburban last year. Effinex last year in the BCC went up to second and when none of the other closers blinked to challenge AP's pace his connections were rewarded with a ton of money. Cugel one of the most respected people on this site has been hyping Comfort and I can see him being an elite horse in the future. We'll see. Remember Frosted has closed in every race he's ran recently except the Travers and Whitney, including the Met. So my logic(and By the Numbers has got this also) is that if you want to see Frosted at his best, including the Met Mile, you want to see him stalking a few lengths off the pace. If CC has to fight over the lead I'm confident Frosted can beat him, and I think even with a good pace setup Frosted can maybe catch CC. In the AA however with one less furlong unless someone really took the fight to CC, I think CC would have been able to stop him in the stretch.
Yes I consider Frosted a great horse and maybe even one of the best 100 to ever live(debatable) 6 out of 17 is 2.5 races below .500. It's not "muchhh" below. I never said Frosted didn't like the track. He had an off day. AP is an all time great and btw Frosted almost beat him(albeit not at 100% in the Travers and was gaining on him(and everyone else in the Derby)
Btw my scenario was predicated on the idea after winning the Woodward his connections would go to the BCC.
Agreed. I forgot her. Bradester would be after all them and Tepin. He has a better chance of getting it than Effinex though. Like the horse is 3-0 on the year. I see your point about it being almost impossible he beats Frosted and CC in his next two starts but if he were to do it(you'd assume he'd beat Melatonin in the process) and Songbird and Tepin were to lose their Eclipse's, it could happen. I know the scenario is insane but it's still possible where the same can't be said of scenarios that give the award to Dortmund, Beholder or Effinex.
Is there a way to get a mod? Beast Bob took care of this last time. This page is actually besieged right now. If no one does something soon they'll be like 20 replies by the morning. Frosted just was announced for the Woodward yesterday, this is an important page for covo in the next few days. I don't want to see it ruined.
Yes I read your explanation. You seem to ignore that Frosted was a late bloomer who ran into a TC winner four times and lost a shoe while losing the Jim Dandy. This year Frosted's 3-1.
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