Couldn't agree more with Zipse's BCC pick!!!!!!
You are just plain wrong here. Of course some tracks are faster than other. Just because Saratoga has faster times one year than SA/DMR/BEL does not mean in any way shape or form it's a faster track, it's all about the horses. You are wrong. Plain and simple.
No I have always put the same disclaimer on it that I did for the CC win. Maybe I did the first week or so but once the dust settled and I began to look at it more objectively, there really was no other conclusion to make. I like how all your replies aren't disputing anything I say, you're just trying to make me look like a hypocrite lol.
Not as much. Not even close. AP never earned as much as CC got off his DWC second for any win he had until the BCC. Regardless the stat is there for fun, it is not a serious way to compare horses.
No AP didn't do something meaningful by beating the track record, because a pitiful 2.04.80 would have been enough to get that record. He did something meaninful by setting his own slow pace and blasting off to win in 2.00.07. Almost every Keeneland record at stake in the BC fell and all in two days. Besides 8.5 and 9 most Keeneland records are just as easy to break as the Meydan ones are.
None of those horszes achieving the status meant anything tangible. Citation it meant a little, only because of the tangible effect it had on his career by extending it another year. The whole Warren Wright thing is also some interesting history. Citation would still be the best ever if he had retired at three or five.
Indeed. If he was to have any chance it would almost have to come with Castellano on board. Without him he doesn't win the Travers last year.
I thought it, he was pretty distance limited. Was super lucky to win the BCJ at 8.5 over Union Rags to win that Eclipse. He simply wasn't a 10 furlong horse. I do think he would have done better against a weaker crop though. In 2012 he had his hands full.
Oh, fair enough I guess.
I have stated several times, that if Arrogate comes close to his form in the Travers he will win. I have Frosted in second and even though I think his best effort is more likely he will not beat Travers from Arrogate. Arrogate will probably have better odds than Frosted to.
Frosted is the 6th best Grey of all time;)
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