That race will remain one of my favorites of all time. Even if AK hadn't been boxed in, I still think I would put Dan ahead of him but only because in my time watching racing, I have not seen a horse in recent years dig as deep and will himself to win like he can. His 2nd was really something, though, and if Dan wasn't in there, I'd say he ran too well to lose that one.
I agree, a bit like the Dude in that way. He's stretched out further than I thought he could, but I just don't see him getting 1 1/4 especially with the pace that should show up for the classic. But who knows. Either way, he's become a very nice horse over the summer with a toss of the travers. I think he could beat Goldencents at SA, and I really hope we could see a match up with them soon!
Shackleford getting his daily exercise under tack. He is ridden by stallion manager Ryan Watson.
Had a question that I hoped someone here would have the knowledge to answer. I've searched around but wasn't finding satisfactory answers, but how much does it cost to keep a horse in training with someone like Pletcher, Baffert, Shug, or Mott? How much would they differ from different sized stables like those of Lopresti or Motion or small time trainers at less prominent tracks. I know location plays a big role, as in New York would be more expensive than Louisiana. Just looking for general annual figures, that could show the different ranges.
always great news when these champion mares safely deliver healthy foals
Oh sorry, read that 'running style' part as that I meant that he can stalk or hang further back, which is part of the reason I like him, not that he needs to develop a new running style. If he was purely a front running type then I don't think I would be so optimistic about him, but I like the flexibility he has shown so far in that respect.
Of course not. I do think he has faced some pretty soft fields, and he has destroyed them as he should for a horse with his hype, similar to the many west coast romps GOD has had. I am still impressed by his turn of foot and his undefeated record, because staying undefeated is no walk in the park regardless of the level of competition. He should have a better running style to handle pressure of the field he'll face in the BC, but he will be facing better horses than he did in the PC. I think he is a nice horse who has tons of potential, and I really want him to succeed because I think he could do great things for the sport. Truly, I think he could be a really good one, and am not ruling him out in the classic which would be an incredibly 'significant' and validating win, though a competitive place or show would not diminish him in my eyes.
To be fair, he did run on the dirt 2 (?) starts back. Though considering that field, he should have beat them regardless of the surface. He won the PC like he should have, but I wouldn't consider beating GOD in that kind of race as much of an accomplishment. I think WTC is the only horse who has recently beat Dude when he actually ran a good race without being compromised by suicidal fractions (last year's Clark). As for my real opinion of SB, I think he is a nice horse, but I just don't think he's done anything 'significant' yet. Like you said, it's a totally different game when a full field of quality horses start pressuring the favorite, but I wouldn't rule out him doing well. Innocent until proven guilty, I guess.
last time. Sorry, disappointing wasn't the right word there. My original argument was that he isn't as good as Dan. By saying that, I don't want to eliminate the possibility of Goldencents beating Dan, or that he isn't a good horse. Goldencents ran one hell of an impressive race his last out and I really hope we get to see him do that more before he retires, and I think he will be very ready for BC dirt mile repeat. So by "disappointment", I think he has had the similar fate of Will Take Charge, another very talented and highly touted horse who has fallen short several times this season but can be among the best when they run their race. Call me an idiot, I don't care. Everyone has their opinions, and you are definitely entitled to yours, just a matter of how these opinions are communicated.
I'm responding to this so that you don't think you suddenly scared me off with your "wisdom". If these two were to face off on SA dirt I would not be asserting dan as an assured win. Don't worry about having to argue with me again, I knew what I was getting into here by arguing with you and did it anyways. You must have a hell of a lot of free time that you continue to come here just to p*** people off who are just trying to discuss the sport.
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