Giacoma(50-1) winning the Derby with 70-1 Closing Argument in the runner-up spot; though the odds weren't that great, a filly(Rags To Riches) winning the Belmont for the first time in some 90 years, defeating Curlin.
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How long ago did the Oaklawn Handicap lose their Grade I rating?
Of the winners of this race since 1980, there are three Eclipse 3YO Champions(Temperence Hill, Snow Chief, Will Take Charge); four Eclipse Older Male Champions (Turkoman, The Wicked North, Cigar, and Lawyer Ron), two BC Classic winners(Wild Again and Cigar); a BC Mile winner(Opening Verse); and two-time Horse Of The Year(Cigar). (I know I listed Cigar three different times, but he was good!!!).
How do credentials like that merit a downgrade? Seems like some politics might be involved?
I know that this Saturday's race is a lot weaker than years' past, but the downgrade keeps the better horses away.
I was just being nostalgic of this race, and wondered what happened.
After what happened last week it strongly crossed my mind. But, I then noticed his first race was including a tag, and he's an Iowa-bred. I couldn't bet an 8-race maiden in a Grade I, and I sure can't go with an Iowa-bred.
P.S. Does anybody know of ANY Iowa-bred?
You eliminate off tracks as part of your criteria. There were some Preakness victories in the slop. If you include all races, AP ran the slowest Preakness in 65 years. Also, take the horses who finished behind AP, but were in the money. Their record after running against AP is probably very dismal(I.e. Tale Of Verve and Keen Ice). AP is a great horse. There are counterpoints.
Three big prep races for this upcoming weekend(Santa Anita Derby, Wood Memorial, and Blue Grass Stakes.) Would there, by chance, be any of these races having a post position draw earlier than Wednesday?, kinda like the Louisiana Derby last week.d
Could A.P. Indy meet any of your criteria? He had to scratch out the day of the Kentucky Derby; won the Belmont and the BC Classic. His connections thought his purpose was intended to be in the breeding shed, so his brief career was aborted..
All colts or horses that are brought up are good fodder for debate. I just mentioned A.P. Indy, because there is no love for him.
Good point, but there are races exclusively for 4YO. What he was running in, were all comers are welcome including older horses. So, some would be his peers, but others not. These races(BC Classic, Pegasus, and Dubai World Classic) are of this ilk.
Hope that answers your question.
But, he did break the record at Saratoga for a mile and a quarter, beating Secretariat's son, General Assembly's record, in the time of 1:59.2, the same time as Secretariat in the Kentucky Derby.
But I never would compare the two, that one being better than the other. The best thing I would guess, is that they're both "In A League Of Their Own".
One thing that I recalled about Arrogate early, was when I was handicapping the Travers Stakes.
I noticed in his past performances that he ran in a 3-horse field. Either that track was having difficulty finding horses to meet the conditions of that race, or the backside knew the potential of Arrogate, and everybody shied away from being the sacrificial one.
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