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Beyer Baffles

After seeing the Gulfstream Beyer Speed Figures, after witnessing the endless adjustments and tinkering that took place, I am left shaking my head. Read More

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stevebiscuit · Beyers would have to be the most overused, overrated tools used in handicapping. Anyone who thinks you can assign a single number to sum up a horse's performance knows little about racing. · 118 days ago ·

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cpsoren121 · Good call Dani. I don't think there will ever be a perfect system. If there was, then I could just wager on racing as a full-time job!! · 118 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · DH, Do you have any more info on the adjusted fractions for the Holy Bull? What I'd like to know is if the final eighth was faster using the Trackus system, because that would make Algorithms win more impressive. · 118 days ago ·

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Winplacsho · I personally don't use Beyers & I agree adjusting the Beyer are frustating, but the teletimer is more jacked up at Gulfstream than any other track. Just be glad that those figures are what the majority of the public are looking at & very influential in swaying the odds. · 118 days ago ·

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RobertPotter · There are times when the so-called official time is erronous. I make my own figures and do hand time many races as a check.Its not at all uncommon for completely bogus times to be recorded as official and never changed. · 118 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Point is Robert, they don't know what the real time is. I hand timed it and came closer to the 1.36. They have no clue which one is right, and when that is the situation you go with what is official or time it yourself. They didn't, potential giving the public false information. · 118 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Baffled only begins to describe how Beyer leaves me feeling. I NEVER use these figures as a handicapping tool, because, like stevebiscuit, I feel it is impossible to assign a number to a horse's performance. That number says nothing about track conditions, traffic, or possible stumbles or bumps during the race. Great blog Dani! · 118 days ago ·

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NickGunritz · If you're following close enough you'd see that there is definitely some problems with the official timing system at Gulfstream. There is definitely no way that Algorithms went 136.17 and the number that Trackus gives of 135.09 is definitely closer to the true final time. Besides that I love the Beyer Speed Figures, but not because I put a ton of faith in them, instead you can exploit the fact that the public does and you can find false favorites because of that BIG BOLD NUMBER in the Form is so front and center. As with everything else, they must be used in context. · 118 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Nick, as i said, I actually hand timed the race, the time I had was slightly closer to the 1.36, but was pretty much in the middle. I timed another race, and found my time on that to be slightly faster than the official time as well. Giving me cause to think that Algorithms did indeed run closer to 1.36 flat. · 118 days ago ·

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ghelguera · That is why I don't use Beyer speed figures they are so inconsistent. Equibase is more consistent and more reliable. Beyer is also too biased on the West Coast giving east coast horses higher figures. · 118 days ago ·

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NickGunritz · Deadheat, no offense, but your hand times can hardly be reliable. Either way we're it's somewhere between 135 and 136, it hardly matters, all you have to do is watch the race to know Algorithms was very impressive. · 118 days ago ·

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ghelguera · That is why I don't use Beyer speed figures they are so inconsistent. Equibase is more consistent and more reliable. Beyer is also too biased on the West Coast giving east coast horses higher figures. · 118 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Speed figures are only a tool, a part of the information needed to handicap and they are very subjective. As for changing speed figures in light of new facts that is the right thing to do. · 118 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I'm curious as to how people could possibly handicap without SF. Dead Heat, Beyer did all the newcomers a favor by putting out a reference point to begin handicapping and quickly eliminating certain horses much to the detriment of people like myself. Now that I don't bet very often it makes no difference but is used way back. There is nothing to explain everything. Einstein couldn't do it how do you expect Beyer to? Always looking for the easy answer and there is one. If you don't like them don't use them. I have to chuckle when I here the new young experts speak of energy distribution figures and their impact on handicapping. Watch the horse run a few races and you'll have your energy answers. I wonder what they did for thousands of years before electricity? Oh I remember we used to burn witches on the corner while we chatted especially the plump ones. ghelguera, by sheer volume alone the best horse have to be outside Kalifornia. · 118 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Nick, then what whould you suggest? I hand time races all the time, it does not take a rocket scientist to do so, and for you to even act like it does is completely rediculous. Watching does not give you all the answers. That is why there are charts, that is why there are splits. Algorithms was slowing down through that race, not getting faster. Hansen set him up. Did Algorithms look good, he did, but after reading the chart there is no way I'm ready to call him the fastest 3yr old in the America, which is basically what Beyer is telling us. Icy, I don't expect Beyer to do everything I expect him to use what is known and not base something off of debate. He has no clue if the 1.35 is actually right or not, but we do know that the 1.36 is what is out there and what is being used. This is not a favor, honestly, especially not today. Not when you can't count on a person and his team to put out a number using reliable stats. · 117 days ago ·

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NTamm1215 · Laura, with all due respect, are you familiar with how figures are computed? That a racetrack can speed up or slow down dramatically on a daily, if not hourly basis? That comparing final times from different days is a terrible idea? · 117 days ago ·

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broxtone · Beyer has written in one of his books not directly about the shortcomings of the figures.He wrote about a futuristic system that could keep track of the distance each horse actually ran.This is not timed as precisely as a track and field event where the start is staggered allowing the outside runners to get a lead because they are outside.Their is also bumping and stopping in horseracing because there are no lanes.Beyer made a tidy sum when he was the only one that had the Beyer speed figures,now anyone that buys the form has them.There will not be the kind of betting overlays that the numbers revealed when he was the only one that had them. · 117 days ago ·

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broxtone · Having said this there is also the question of making varients and human error · 117 days ago ·

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broxtone · Any timing of races is going to be inaccurate so the speed figures will be also,I use the old school way of comparison lengths beaten · 117 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @DeadHeat, either purposely or inadvertently you answered your own question when you stated in your reply to me that"you don't expect Beyer to do everything." You as a handicapper should be doing "all" the work. As far as watching a horse run that is still only part of the puzzle we are trying to solve by using as much past information attainable to us to predict the future which can get really tricky. While it's possible I might have somewhere I don't generally refer to speed figures as Beyer's as they were around in one form or another long before A. Beyer made his mark. For as much criticism this guy gets (A. Beyer) even from me you really have to love him. Out of tens of thousands of races run annually he can't pick a winner to save his life but he can tell you what you did wrong after the race is run and get paid well doing it. Lighten up on the guy he's a self described "bum who got lucky." Instead of being so critical of Beyer in your search for a winner read the blogs because there are some good handicappers here you could learn more. To be more blunt chat with them pre-race and share thoughts or simply see who is putting some hot horses up at the moment or consistently. Getting back to SF there arbitrary numbers that differ from person to person or in this high tech society I should say tout to tout. Here's a novel idea. Take the time yourself to build off what is already there and use your own numbers as you must have some idea just by raising this question. GL · 117 days ago ·

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annmatt · Would like for you to have listed the speed figures from other sources to see how they compared. I'm not a big fan of Beyer, anyway, except to use him to check against other sources. Thank goodness, he isn't the only one out there who calculates this stuff. There are other sources for speed figures. · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Using a Beyer is like reading the last chapter of a book and trying to understand the story. Beyer himself late said he agreed with the notion of How they run fast over how fast they run. · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · Do you wager on the races, Deadheat? If the answer is no, why would you care in the slightest what Beyer number is assigned to a race. The ENTIRE purpose of a Beyer figure is to be used as a handicapping tool/aid for wagering purposes. As for all the posters saying the numbers are useless because they don't take into account "stumbles, ground loss, traffic, bumps etc. - BEYER himself in the book Beyer on Speed writes that trip notes made by the handicapper are VITAL to be used in conjunction with the nember and "how the figure was earned is equally important to consider and project onto today's race. The continuous Beyer bashing is a little nauseating-maybe those who claim he is clueless should post their own systems and R.O.Is. · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Final times of these races can be the same: wire to wire job an pacesetter slows down at the end, Pace battle collpases and 3rd horse paaes pacesetters, three on or near the lead colllapse and a closer comes up....NOWHERE near the same · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Ones ROI is based upon how they wager, a mutally exclusive experience to handicapping a race...Beyers are OVER Bet and have never addressed HOW they were arrived at · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · You're missing the point - that's where the trip notes come into play. The BSF number only tells you how fast a horse ran, not how or why> Beyer himself would toss a horse like Bellamy Road out following a devastating wood Memorial win when he surely earned a high fig BECAUSE he was completely unchallenged throughout the race. In the ensuing Derby, it was VERY obvious that BR would not maike the lead and had no chance - therefore he is a toss DESPITE being the top BSF horse. "cappers who prefer to just bet on a "number" with no analysis whatsoever do indeed overbet these types of horses, leading to golden opportunities for those who apply the figures and project future figures correctly. I challenge anyone who has posted on this thread to produce ANY excerpt from a Beyer book that recommends BLINDLY betting on the top fig horse as if it were "betting on a number" as has been suggested. Go ahead. Produce the evidence. · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Trip notes are SUBJECTIVE alterations in the number. Unless an amimal is severly compromised they mean LITTLE as one looks for the PERFORMER and not the single PERFORMANCE · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Bellamy Road was suspect since a huge early bias was extant the day of that race and his energy was far too early to go 10 furlongs three weeks later · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · ????? Isn't ALL handicapping subjective??? Haven't you SUBJECTIVELY decided that BSF's are useless? You mean to tell me if a horse raced 5-wide on both turns of a 8 1/2 F race and lost to a horse who hugged the rail throughout and I had that in my "trip notes" that info wouldn't have value? The ENTIRE point of handicapping a SINGLE race is to indeed come up with the likely end result of today's PERFORMANCE, not a generaliztion regarding who the best PERFORMER might be. A classic example in today's world would be The Factor. His PERFORMANCE seems to be directly correlated to how much rival early speed is signed on against him. I bet race ws to turn a profit. I am ALWAYS concerned with how horses will perform today and why. · 117 days ago ·

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NickGunritz · @deadheat, I understand the point of timing races, and you can time every race if you want, but what makes your hand times more accurate than equibase or trakus? Better yet, why would I trust your times? Furthermore, unless it's a turf race I don't expect a horse to be running faster at the finish, especially when he's being hand ridden because he had the race won at the top of the stretch. A 98 beyer or a 105 beyer, I don't really care, it was only his 3rd start so it was very impressive, however he still needs to improve and do it around 2 turns. · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · travel_vic: how did you know there was a "huge early bias"? Did you make SUBJECTIVE "trip notes" in that regard then apply it to your SUBJECTIVE analysis of the next race? You make my point for me with every post. Funny. · 117 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @driveon, speaking of horses going wide don't you just love those european trotters going 3 wide the entire mile and never letting the pressure off, I know I do. · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · @icy - it's a completely different style of racing, but it sure is fun to watch. The Australians have a similar style of racing. · 117 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I watched Un De Mae do that to Nevele Pride in the International, 69-70 can't remember which yr think it was Roosevelte. have a good day · 117 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Driveon, Yes i have bet races, but rarely. I care because I love to handicap, even if not for money. I want my sources to be accurate and reliable, this is simply not. For those who ask, yes I am familiar with how Beyer makes his figures, I have said so numerous times, and it's not rocket science. Nick, the official time being posted is not the 1.35. That is used by Beyer and his team. Other major sites have the official clocking down as 1.36 flat. I also never said you had to trust my times, however, what I did was fairly close to most of the original clockings, which obviously means I'm not that far off. Seperate hand times will almost always show a little difference as was the case here. Icy, I don't have a question. As a handicapper I don't expect Beyers to be the be all end all, however if your going to call yourself a pro at something then make sure you are as accurate as possible and are putting out info that corresponds with what the other stats are, the official stats. Beyer did not do that. · 117 days ago ·

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HorseDynasty · I have never understood the interest some people have with Beyers. · 117 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @DeadHeat, Beyer has a whole team at his disposal with no accountability except to themselves and possibly DRF. Speed figures are so subjective if your a serious person you almost have to make your own or pay a good service to save you time.If you don't want to do either you can average different outlets figures. Accurrate information is essential as you point out. You obviously have perseverence and patience that's more than half the battle won. Good luck in your endeavor's, maybe someday we'll be reading your figures, or buying them. One never knows. · 117 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Icy, I use all type of methods, however not everyone does when handicapping or betting. For some these figs are the be all end all, for me they aren't but for some yes they are. I have thought about making my own figs, but the lack of time that I want and need make it very hard to do so consistently. · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · I don't get it - if you want your "sources to be accurate and reliable", why do you consult Beyers at all? You have made it clear in various preivious posts that you believe the figures are unreliable and subjective. So why use them as a "source". · 117 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Driveon, just because I don't always agree does not mean do not study. I'm a conservative Repluican, that doesn't mean I ignore all things liberal and democrat. You keep updated, you study, that way you can have an inteligent conversation on all issues. · 117 days ago ·

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HorseDynasty · DeadHeat, very good point. It is a good idea to look at as many aspects as possible. Just because I don't put much stock into Beyers doesn't mean I haven't researched how they are derived and used, and arrived at my opinion/conclusion by doing so. · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Early bias is denoited when the standard of the early/late balance is far more positive than the average over a season. The day Bellamy Road ran it was almot 40% higher than normal, THA'TS How · 117 days ago ·

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fastcarsandfasthorses · Four days ago I posted a similar question with no response. My original comment asked: "Can somebody explain how Mucho Macho Man runs 6 lengths faster than Awersome Feather on the same day at the same distance, yet their Beyer figures are only 4 points apart (100 vs. 96)? At the same time, Holladay Road runs 2.5 lengths faster than Willa B Awesome on the same day at the same distance, yet there is a 11 point difference (98 vs. 87)." · 117 days ago ·

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driveon · "I challenge anyone who has posted on this thread to produce ANY excerpt from a Beyer book that recommends BLINDLY betting on the top fig horse as if it were "betting on a number" as has been suggested. Go ahead. Produce the evidence. " Crickets from the Beyer Bashers. Typical. · 117 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Wager creation is a distinct and independent challenge to handicapping. Always has always will be..BET the overlay · 116 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Driveon, where did I ever say people take the top BSF and run with it? Some do, I have heard some people who think they are the be all end all. Personally, up until last year, I didn't have an huge problem with them. They made more sense. This year and last year the haven't. Again, the main thing here is put out the most accurate info you can, and he didn't. · 116 days ago ·

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GregRiessland · i use byers a little bit, but i go by running line and who was in the race, distance and footing. look at the parents, the rating record at the distance, how many times they tried it. videos work the best though the information on the form can be wrong. i just use lots of methods. i think we all do. · 116 days ago ·

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Point/Counterpoint: Mucho Macho Man vs. Awesome Feather

Which fan favorite shone brightest on Sunshine Millions day - Awesome Feather or Mucho Macho Man?Read More

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DeadHeat · Brian, when the times are over the same track and same day, it matters, especially when there is over a second difference. Had one horse raced in Cali and the other in FL then I would discount them, but that is not the case. Also, RTG was not getting to Macho, that race was won at the top of the stretch. Also, just because AF is unbeaten doesn't mean she can't be beaten at all. Who has she faced? Outside of the BC, her races at Calder and two last year were not exactly brimming with talent. Many think she'll be beaten this year by one of the other few main fillies and mares returning this year. You cannot simply overlook time and competition. If that was the case then why keep track and why even run them? Mucho ran the better race that day. AF is a very good filly and ran a good race, but you can't simply throw away reason and stats. Based on the month of Jan, stats show MMM is the better horse. · 121 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Maybe we watched a different race but from the top of the stretch Dominguez whipped him 23 times and another 30 yards and he was beaten. A typical sonof Macho Uno. Awesome feather on the other hand was on cruise control and looked to be on cruise control.BTW: I watched on line and #1 Duke Of Mischief was not in the walking ring and for the 4 seconds he was viewable in the PP he looked lathered, can anyone give me feedback on my last comment concerning the Duke? · 121 days ago ·

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footlick · DRF chart said Mucho Macho Man was all out to hold Ron the Greek, and Awesome Feather was under urging to widen her lead. The two who impressed me most were Algorithms and Broadway's Alibi, even though I know that they were done on a sealed track. They were easier winners than either MMM or AF. · 121 days ago ·

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footlick · icyhotboo- I didn't see andy of the paddock or post parade, so I can't comment on Duke of Mischief. · 121 days ago ·

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footlick · should be any, not andy · 121 days ago ·

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Ann Maree · I think I made some of my points in your threads on Facebook....I love both of these horses, and MMM has had my heart since the Risen Star last year. That being said, I think the effort by Awesome Feather was bigger than MMM's, though not by a huge amount. Awesome Feather had to give 6 pounds to all her competitors, except for one filly that she gave 4 pounds to. To me that made the difference in the effort between these two. Each has more than demonstrated that we will have a high old time this year watching them challenge others in their divisions in 2012. Hoping that both of them stay healthy, of course. Love MMM since he has filled out his huge frame...he was just a kid last year running against older horses, and we are fortunate, or rather he was, to have gotten through the tough season withough serious injury given his being the youngster of the sophomores. MMM I believe actually got a couple pounds from Turbo, which he probably didn't need. If this is for the purpose of deciding your star of the week, this might need to be the week you have co-stars! They both were very impressive. · 121 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · I was a skeptic of MMM's interest in winning races, but he changed my mind in the Sunshine. Awesome Feather is unbeaten and has been dominant in every win and that goes a long way with me. · 121 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Icy, 23 times? I guess we were watching a different race cause I count significantly less than that. Both horses were being ridden, both horses were not going to get caught. Footlick, BA was amazing. Pedigree doesn't suggest any distance issues and she sure didn't look like she wanted to stop any time soon. Very nice looking filly. · 121 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Personally, I think MMM needed to get a little more out of his SM race than AF did. Feather is a proven champion, but MMM had a lot of maturing to do since last year. With that being said, neither of their trainers have mapped out a plan for them, so who know what the ultimate goal was for their races this past weekend. I would argue, though, that MMM faced a much tougher field than AF did, which would account for the difference in winning times and margins. · 121 days ago ·

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digidot · As a little side note Awesome Feather was carrying 6 pounds more than MMM. · 121 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Very good point digidot. MMM was also coming into the SM off only a 1 mile AlwOC race that was almost three months prior to his SM Classic win. AF had two preps, one being a Grade 1, and only two months between races. · 121 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I never questioned MMM ability as a horse to get 1 1/8 mile but I did question his losing a shoe in two consecutive graded races to me that was one to many and I was either going to bet another or pass as I don't bet "trouble" horses. Since they chose to show a scintillating interview with the trainer of MMM instead of letting us bettors see the horses I had no choice but to pass as I was watching on line not trackside and just managed to get a glimpse of the #1 DOM for about 5 seconds and couldn't really tell but he looked like he was lathered. These on line sites have give aways for new members but those that have been there for years they think they have them locked in well not me even if I have to pay OTB the extra 6% it's better than betting blind. · 121 days ago ·

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footlick · I agree DeadHeat. An absolutely dominating performance by BA. Looking forward to her next. · 121 days ago ·

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GregRiessland · i say mmm. · 121 days ago ·

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Horse Racing Week In Photos Jan. 30

Relive the best in racing with these images from Eclipse Sportwire.Read More

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Mucho Macho Man Impresses in Sunshine Millions Classic

It was a big day for some of the biggest names in today's Sunshine Millions ...Read More

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BrianZipse · What a great day. Mucho Macho Man and Awesome Feather were terrific ... 2012 is getting off to a flying start! · 123 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · Mucho Macho Man has grown up! What an excellent performance. · 123 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Still feeling great about what I saw yesterday from Awesome Feather and Mucho Macho Man! · 122 days ago ·

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travel_vic · excelleent ride by Dominguez · 122 days ago ·

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jasen.mangrum · I didn't think MMM had a 107 Beyer in him, but it was a nice performance. I know GP has been known for some freakish performances, but its encouraging going forward that MMM can also take his show on the road. For Awesome Feather to dual into those fractions and keep going was sensational. I would still like to see how it would've played out had Delightful Mary not ran up her backside on the far turn. But take nothing away from Awesome Feather, she didn't have things her own way & still turned in one hell of a performance. · 122 days ago ·

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edrake · You did it and we were there to see it live. What a tremendous horse and fantastic owners, Dean and Patti Reeves. You are such gracious owners. · 122 days ago ·

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annalefsrud@yahoo.ca · The Much Man is a wonderful horse, there IS something about him, and wonderful to see Awesome feather go so well, and I agree with JasonM about Delightful Mary, had she not had to change out like that. Was Awesome's race, but would have been interesting to see her stride uninterrupted. These horses with such heart. And I am jealous of anyone who saw it LIVE!! · 122 days ago ·

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Awesome Feather Perfect in Sunshine Millions

Awesome Feather extended her unbeaten streak to nine in Saturday's Florida Sunshine Millions at Gulfstream Park. Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 123 days ago ·

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Profiling the Sunshine Millions: Awesome Feather

We have yet to get through this weekend, and I am already looking ahead to the next weekend. I absolutely cannot help it! The Sunshine Millions series is shaping up to be a good one this year, and I am crushed that I probably will not be able to get down to Florida to watch the action first-hand. Si...Read More

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Winplacsho · If Delightful Mary goes in that spot, I don't think Awesome Feather is a sure thing. I was real impressed with the way she's returned from the spring campaign (or lack there of) & I think the stretch out around 2 turns will help as well. · 131 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Delightful Mary has certainly been on a roll since November, but Feather had her number at 1 1/16 mile, and DM has never been asked to run a 1 1/8 mile. If the odds are right, that might be a gamble I'm willing to take. · 131 days ago ·

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cpsoren121 · I can't wait to see Awesome Feather run again!! Great picture in the blog too! · 131 days ago ·

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Woodbinemile · She beat a super Quality filly in R Heat Lightning. That should be enough for now. But the rest of the Distaff runners will soon find out who the real Star is!. Go Get em FEATHER! · 131 days ago ·

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RyanBrady · This makes me think of how excited we will all be to see a matchup between Awesome Feather vs Havre de Grace. Should be another thriller if they meet up in The Apple Blossom Handicap (G1) at Oaklawn in April. · 126 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Ryan, I'd like to see her face Awesome Maria, too. · 126 days ago ·

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Herman'sKennel · Awesome will be ready for any horse who she faces , she will and can take down the likes of Awesome Maria, Plumb Pretty , its Tricky and any other Hooves that get in her way...dont you ever doubt that · 125 days ago ·

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Winplacsho · After checking the PPs I think Tiz the Argument will be tough to beat. · 123 days ago ·

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Can Awesome Feather Remain Perfect?

Awesome Feather attempts to run her record to 9-for-9 in Saturday's Florida Sunshine Millions Distaff at Gulfstream Park. Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 127 days ago ·

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Awesome Feather Set to Star in Sunshine Millions

Stronach Stable’s undefeated 4-year-old filly Awesome Feather, Pinnacle Racing and Bill Kaplan’s 2011 Eclipse champion filly or mare sprinter Musical Romance and Reeves Thoroughbred’s 4-year-old Mucho Macho Man, third in the Kentucky Derby (G1) last spring, are among the stars expected to run in one...Read More

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BrianZipse · Suddenly getting the urge to fly to South Florida next week! · 132 days ago ·

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terri.zeitz · How exciting does it get? Stars and possible superstars will racing on that date. Looks like Mucho Macho Man has filled out his big frame iand is quite the Man (Sunshine Millions Classic). I'm so glad Awesome Feather(filly and mare race) is healthy and running. Little Mike (turf) and Apriority (sprint) are the other favorites. And Musical Romance (filly and mare sprint) is another favorite. Gulfstream is the place this winter with so many returning champions training and running and some wonderful derby prospects training there. · 131 days ago ·

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Winter Preview

Here is your guide to the blizzard of races you'll shovel through from now until the first hints of spring.Read More

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afleet · Dont forget about Tampa Bay, lower take than the CA tracks · 178 days ago ·

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travel_vic · inner Aqueduct is a speed demons paradise: the colder it gets, the more it is expressed. · 177 days ago ·

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4:41 PM

Awesome Feather will be pointed to the Sunshine Millions Distaff at Gulfstream Park on January 28.

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Evening Jewel Shines in Millions Distaff

Trainer Jim Cassidy thought he might be forced to retire Evening Jewel, questioning his grade I-winning filly's will to continue racing following a lackluster effort earlier in the month. But her thrilling come-from-behind victory in the $300,000 Sunshine Millions Distaff Jan. 29 before 26,694 at Sa...Read More

Source: bloodhorse.com · Posted 487 days ago ·

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Curlin1234 · I'm so glad to see Evening Jewel back in the win column! She's far too good to be retired yet, I cant' wait to see what she does the rest of the year. · 487 days ago ·

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Sunshine Millions Pick 6 from Santa Anita Park - Jan 29th

Saturday’s pick six from Santa Anita Park includes three Sunshine Millions races. First up is the Sprint (5th race) and Cost of Freedom is the one to catch. It is a San Gabriel rematch between Jeranimo and The Usual Q. T. in the Turf (7th race), and Evening Jewel tries to rebound in the Distaff (8th...Read More

Source: pick6blog.com · Posted 488 days ago ·

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Handicapping Chat TONIGHT at Iron Maidens Thoroughbreds

Will Florida trump California in the Sunshine Millions? Who will step up in the Holy Bull? Discuss your opinions and selections in the best handicapping chat on the web! Read More

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Evening Jewel Seeks Rebound in Sunshine Millions Distaff

Marilyn Braly’s Evening Jewel, who has knocked heads with racing’s elite fillies, takes a sizable drop in class while taking on eight Cal-bred and Florida-bred older fillies in the Sunshine Millions Distaff. The Distaff is one of three Sunshine Millions races to be run over the new dirt surface at S...Read More

Source: bloodhorse.com · Posted 491 days ago ·

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Cassidy Pair Headline Sunshine Millions

New York City-born trainer James Cassidy figures to be a force on Saturday in Santa Anita's portion of the ninth annual Sunshine Millions competition when he saddles multiple Grade 1 winners THE USUAL Q. T. (Unusual Heat) and EVENING JEWEL (Northern Afleet) in their respective events. Conducted in c...Read More

Source: brisnet.com · Posted 492 days ago ·

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Sunshine Millions Distaff Quotes

Dave Braddy (Sweet Repent) – “I was concerned when he (Manoel Cruz) was asking her in the far turn and not really getting to the leaders (Jessica Is Back and Amazing), but she got going and wore them down. She had some time off last year (Feb-July) with some problems with her feet. She was a better ...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 851 days ago ·

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Sweet Repent Takes Five in Millions Distaff

Buongirono A Tutti Stable’s Sweet Repent, under a ride from jockey Manoel Cruz on the far turn, swallowed up the leaders in mid-stretch and drew away to win the $300,000 Sunshine Millions Distaff at Gulfstream Park Jan. 3.Read More

Source: bloodhorse.com · Posted 851 days ago ·

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Sunshine Millions Still Setting a Hot Pace

Following a negative trend--which people of good conscience try to reverse but lack the power or means necessary to do so- the Sunshine Millions, alas, ain’t what it used to be. But what is? And don’t blame this one on Frank Stronach. This was and remains a terrific idea, a handle bonanza from Day 1...Read More

Source: horseraceinsider.com · Posted 852 days ago ·

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bband · The ridiculous purses are gone, but they made no sense anyways. Sunshine Millions was a good concept, and nothing wrong with putting extra firepower behind it to ensure success. The Magna P5 is a good idea, too. · 852 days ago ·

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Sweet Repent shoots for 5th straight

Buongiorna A. Tutti Stable’s 4-year-old filly Sweet Repent has won her last four starts at Calder for trainer Dave Braddy and will be well-supported to extend that streak in a field of nine fillies and mares entered in the $300,00 Sunshine Millions Distaff, although facing new challenges with shipp...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 854 days ago ·

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Sunshine Millions News and Notes

Buongiorno A. Tutti Stable’s 4-year-old filly Sweet Repent, who likely be among the favorites for the $300,000 Sunshine Millions Distaff next Saturday (Jan. 30) at Gulfstream Park, worked a sharp ‘bullet’ five furlongs in 59 1/5 Friday morning over the track for trainer Dave Braddy. Sweet Repent wo...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 857 days ago ·

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