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Breeders Cup Dirt Mile

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I've been seeing/hearing comments in recent years about how the American breed of horses is so "speed-centric" or "this horse is a sprinter/miler" type not a 10f horse, yet in my opinion the fields in this race(Breeder's Cup Dirt Mile) and the BC Sprint have been only ok, something left to be desired. If the breed is so focused on speed and there are so many "sprint/miler" types why isn't the sprint and dirt mile division jam packed with stars? The Dirt mile has been one of the weaker BC races top to bottom and the sprint has not had spectacular fields. Anyone have any theories or care to weigh in? Perhaps I am off
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  • https://www.facebook.com/john.karczewski.39 · I agree Exterminator, the marathon fields were the worse but any horse that could go long with any talent is going to try the classic. The Marathon just never gained steam it was 4th and 5th stringers, a glorified allowance/Gr.3. That being said, American horses have been doing well going long on the turf in the BC. We have taken a few down over the Euro · 119 days ago
  • Mike in SB · I think the answer is that the problem with horses today is not the breeding but how they are raced and trained. In my opinion there is nothing genetically inferior about the modern thoroughbred. It they raced without drugs and were trained for distance and stamina they could compete with horses from any time in the past. As you mentioned above if it was just breeding for speed this would be a golden age for sprinters and milers. Look at last years male sprinters up for the Eclipse Award, one was through racing in May, another one only one Grade One race and the winner was not even around in November. The problem with the modern thoroughbred is not breeding but too many drugs and the lack of fitness due to racing too infrequently. · 118 days ago
I felt this one's a 3 horse race. Verrazano and Pants on Fire are must plays. I think Centralinteligence will appreciate the stretch out. Hymn Book and Goldent Ticket are my underneath plays for the gimmicks.
(1) Pants on Fire, (2) Fed Biz, (3) Brujo de Oileros. If the track is playing towards moderate speed to speed I’m going with Pant on Fire as my longshot special. He’s coming off the best race of his career. His 1.33.78 mile in the Ack Ack was the fastest mile at Churchill in over three years and he was rewarded with a 107 Beyer (career best). He is versatile enough to come from mid-pack, but he can also stalk a fast pace and close in the stretch. He is a good miler (4 for 7) and has an excellent though underrated money jockey in Paco Lopez. Feed Biz is my longshot second choice. His G2 Obrien win was the fastest 7F at Delmar in over three years, getting the distance in 1.22.12. His closing fractions were also excellent with his final 5F in 57.73, 4F (extrapolated) in 46.65, 3F in 35.56, and 2F in (extrapolated) in 23.64. The jock and the trainer have SA track experience and depending on how the track is playing will make a decision to either go for the lead or to lay back, and he can run well with both styles. Brujo de Oileros has an excellent shot at third. His 102 Beyer in the Kelso and manner in which he was closing on Graydar was impressive. In that race he got a final 4F in 46.67 and 2F in 23.48 (3rd fastest final 2F of all horses in their last race), just behind Goldencents and Hymn Book. I’m tossing Verrazano. This will be the toughest race at under 10F that he’s ever been in and there is an abundance of speed so that he won’t be able to dictate pace which IMO is what he needs. Goldencents will definitely be a late threat if he lays back, but if he goes for the lead he’ll get cooked. JMO.
thanks scott, I had 20$ to win on him, got 320$ back, but i was pissed I had a 2$ pick 3 going, singled groupie doll, and tapizar, had 6 horses in the turf sprint, didnt put mizdirection i didnt think shed win off the layoff. but all in all everybody doubted me, and laughed about tapizar lol, next breeders cup maybe someone will listen!
What's happening with the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile? Wasn't it supposed to have been run between the juvenile turf and the turf sprint? Thanks!

Stakes Tracker - Probables

  • View Race Details 10/31/2014
  • 2014 Breeders Cup Dirt Mile (G1)
  • 1 mile, Dirt; 3+ M
Horse
Trainer
Status
Comment
Posted By
Candy BoyJ. SadlerPossible EvanAnouna
TapitureS. AsmussenPossible EvanAnouna
BayernB. BaffertPossible EvanAnouna
ValidM. VitaliPossible EvanAnouna
BradesterE. KenneallyPossible EvanAnouna
Wildcat RedJ. GaroffaloPossible EvanAnouna
Social InclusionC. BrownPossible EvanAnouna
Night Of ThunderR. Hannon Jr.Possible EvanAnouna
MorenoE. GuillotPossible EvanAnouna
ItsmyluckydayE. Plesa Jr.Possible EvanAnouna
Golden TicketK. McPeekPossible EvanAnouna
Fed BizB. BaffertPossible EvanAnouna
DeclassifyB. BaffertPossible EvanAnouna
Clearly NowB. LynchPossible EvanAnouna
BronzoJ. Inda MeyerProbable EvanAnouna
GoldencentsD. O'NeillProbable EvanAnouna

Race Results & Past Performances

Date(Descending)
Tr
#
Dist.[Filter]
Sf.
$
Cnd
Race
1st
2nd
3rd
Time
View Details10/31/14SA31 mileD03+ MBreeders Cup Dirt Mile-G1   0:00.00
View DetailsView Video11/01/13SA81 mileD03+ MBreeders Cup Dirt Mile-G1GoldencentsGolden TicketBrujo De Olleros1:35.12
View DetailsView Video11/03/12SA61 mileD03+ MBreeders Cup Dirt Mile-G1TapizarRail TripDelegation1:35.34
View DetailsView Video11/05/11CD71 mileD03+ MBreeders Cup Dirt Mile-G1Caleb's PosseShacklefordTres Borrachos1:34.59
View DetailsView Video11/06/10CD91 mileD03+ MBreeders Cup Dirt Mile-G1Dakota PhoneMorning LineGayego1:35.29
View DetailsView Video11/07/09SA41 mileS03+ MBreeders Cup Dirt Mile-G1Furthest LandReady's EchoMidshipman1:35.50
View DetailsView Video10/25/08SA31 mileS03 MBreeders Cup Dirt MileAlbertus MaximusRebellion Two Step Salsa1:33.41
View DetailsView Video10/26/07Mth101 70yD03 MBreeders Cup Dirt MileCorinthianGottcha GoldDiscreet Cat1:39.06