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2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

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Date/Track:

5/4/2013, Churchill Downs

Post Time:

4:44 PM ET

Distance:

1 1/8 m (Turf)

Age/Sex:

4+ M

Time:

1:51.84

*Rank is current Power Ranking among all active horses, based on highest HRN rating. Rating is based on HRN member voting.

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Silks

Horse / Sire

Rating

Trainer / Jockey

Last Start / Next Start

1st

Wise Dan
Wiseman's Ferry

8.33

C. Lopresti
J. Lezcano

1st, 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

Oct 8 - Phoenix Stakes (G3)

2nd

Optimizer
English Channel

7.93

D. Lukas
J. Rosario

3rd, 2013 Dixie Stakes (G2)

Aug 6 - Sar MSW (8/6/2011-R2)

3rd

Middie
Officer

6.07

P. Oliver
F. Torres

3rd, 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

May 22 - CD MSW (5/22/2011-R7)

4th

Silver Max
Badge of Silver

7.81

D. Romans
R. Albarado

4th, 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

Jul 31 - Sar Mcl (7/31/2011-R4)

5th

Bim Bam
Deputy Wild Cat

6.04

R. Moquett
R. Santana

5th, 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

Mar 6 - Palm Beach (G3)

6th

Slim Shadey
Val Royal

7.61

S. Callaghan
G. Stevens

6th, 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

Apr 30 - English 2000 Guineas (G1)

7th

Jeranimo
Congaree

7.60

M. Pender
R. Bejarano

7th, 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)

Apr 18 - Coolmore Lexington Stakes (G2)

What the Nation is saying about the 2013 Woodford Reserve Turf Classic (G1)...

Point of No Entry?

It's been three months since Point of Entry trounced Animal Kingdom ... looks like we will need to wait another month before his encore performance.Read More

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Floridaf · I agree that it was a huge disappointment that Point of Entry didn't run in the Woodford, but I think I can understand the decision. Yes, he won the Joe Hirsch on a yielding course, but he was a fairly hard ridden winner that day despite the soft fractions. I would imagine that had a lot to do with Shug's decision. · 14 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · LOL on the "Say ten Hail Orb's"! P of E is not even nominated for the Dixie. · 14 days ago ·

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GregRiessland · only race he missed this year, you see that turf? he was just thinking off the safety of horse. he will run with dan another time. he didn't back down from ak. relax all. · 14 days ago ·

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amino998 · Greg>> The Kitten’s Joy was in no way a showdown with Animal Kingdom, both horses were only prepping………… "I'm looking forward to it," McGaughey said. "This is a no win-at-all-risk type of situation. It's only the first of February. Our main objective is the Breeders' Cup (Turf) next fall. How I get him there, we'll see, but so far, so good.">> "I like the timing, the spacing and the surface," trainer Graham Motion said of the decision to prep Animal Kingdom for the $10 million World Cup via the February race at Gulfstream Park>> I seriously doubt Wise Dan will ever have another shot at POE @ 1 1/8th. Discretion was the better part of valor. · 14 days ago ·

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head_heart_hooves · That lush turf was just fine for Wise Dan ;-) · 14 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · Point of Entry ran 7 times last year and has now run in 5 Grade One races in a row, this is a much more challenging than the majority of top horses racing today. I understand everyones disappointment that he did not facing Wise Dan but I am sure the decision was based only on the track condition. The connections are New York based and I can understand wanting to wait until the race at Belmont. I believe Point of Entry will have a strong summer and fall campaign and expect to see him in the Arlington Million and Breeders Cup. · 14 days ago ·

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gelded1 · Point of Entry has nothing more to prove.The owners and trainer was looking out for the horse and why should anyone question that decision but them? · 14 days ago ·

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amino998 · How beating Tahoe Lake, Center Divider, Al Khali and then winning the prep while losing the Breeders’ Cup Turf to Little Mike at a less than preferable distance for LM results in “Point of Entry has nothing more to prove´is my question. · 14 days ago ·

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gelded1 · What is it you want him to prove to you? · 14 days ago ·

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gelded1 · Shug talked to Castellano immediately after he rode Hungry Island I would assume about the condition of the turf course and then went to J.Velasquez to get with him on probably what info Javier gave Shug and then Iwould assume the decision was made to scratch out based on the info from the jock on the turf course condition. · 14 days ago ·

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amino998 · I do not want. How is his status so exalted in your mind that he has nothing left to prove? · 14 days ago ·

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gelded1 · He beats the competion he's put up against more times than not. Enough said. I'm not saying he isn't beatable but he's won 6 of last 7 with a 2nd place finish and a win over Animal Kingdom. · 14 days ago ·

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gelded1 · Everyone keeps questioing why he scratched out on Derby Day . I guess you are one of those who thinks he ducks competition. Is that correct? · 14 days ago ·

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amino998 · Unlike others who are *sure* that he did NOT duck on Derby Day, I don’t know. · 14 days ago ·

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mattowan · "Trounced"? Dictionary much? · 14 days ago ·

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amino998 · That’s the beauty of horse racing. The *truth* sometimes comes out later. I mean, you couldn’t just ask Shug today expecting a straight answer, right? More like a kick in the pants. But someday………… · 14 days ago ·

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gelded1 · I'm not "Sure" of anything Amino. I'm just stating my assumption of the info I heard which may or may not be 100% true. I think the decision to run a horse should be based on the horses safety and codition of the race track or turf course. I'm not here to start a war with you on this issue just to stsate my opinion. Opinions are like Azzholes,everbody has one. No hard feelings I hope over this discussion . · 14 days ago ·

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amino998 · Hard feelings>> now that's borderline laughable :)>>like I said, I don't know, others do. It's a *playing the percentages* thing to me. · 14 days ago ·

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mack.krout · i def would have had him in my tri-fecta...instead of slim shadey · 13 days ago ·

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Sully · Trounced? Apparently you haven't seen too many races in your lifetime. · 12 days ago ·

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Wise Dan Rolls in Point of Entry-less Woodford Reserve Turf Classic

With Point of Entry away, Wise Dan was free to play, and the reigning Horse of the Year rolled to an easy win in the Woodford Reserve Turf Classic Read More

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AndyScoggin · You can't win much easier than Wise Dan just did. · 20 days ago ·

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Floridaf · They have to meet at some point this year, especially since Lopresti and Fink were adamant about Wise Dan going longer this year. · 20 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · Wise Dan got a 104 BSF for the easy win. · 19 days ago ·

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timmy.parkerson · heres how i feel about it wise dan can run on any surface .poe has to have a firm turf ?he still should have run the horse its not fair to the public . if poe cant run in the rain then take him to arizona where its dry bull shi-t excuse to scratch out. · 19 days ago ·

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Kentucky Derby Full Card Analysis

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AndyScoggin · I'm with you, Jasen. Let's hit the Pick 4 today. · 20 days ago ·

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2013 Woodford Reserve Tu...

what race of the day is this? i like Wise Dan, Optimizer and Silvermax in a trifecta

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Wise Dan, Point of Entry Clash in Turf Classic

Wise Dan and Point of Entry signed on for a heavyweight showdown Saturday when they were among nine entries for the 28th running of the Woodford Reserve Turf Classic.Read More

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Ruffianlover · This is going to be one fine race ladies and gentleman. I think I'm going with POE thanks to my man Johnny V · 22 days ago ·

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amino998 · Bet the horse, not the jock, in this one! · 22 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Point Of Entry by 4 lengths. · 22 days ago ·

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railbird33 · Very pleased to be see this one live at CD. Best match-up I've seen at CD since, Blame & Zenyatta. Too close to call!! · 22 days ago ·

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Sullivan · This is a rider's game, amino. · 22 days ago ·

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amino998 · I think we'll be advised that Wise Dan has the upper hand on a good to firm course. · 22 days ago ·

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Kentucky Oaks-Turf Classic-Kentucky Derby Pick 3 Video Analysis

HorseRacingNation.com's Jarrod Horak & Jasen Mangrum shoot for value in the special Kentucky Oaks-Woodford Reserve Turf Classic-Kentucky Derby 2013 Pick 3. Read More

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Wise Dan vs. Point of Entry would be EPIC!

Can you imagine witnessing a Wise Dan – Point of Entry showdown on the Kentucky Derby undercard in the Woodford Reserve Turf Classic?Read More

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kay.robinett · Do not underestimate Wise Dan at 9 furlongs. He holds the Keeneland record at that distance on the mail track on the poly, set just last year. I agree that Dan would probably win at the mile and POE in longer distances - 9 furlongs would be a perfect test between the two. I think I would look more forward to that race than to the Kentucky Derby!!! · 31 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · I agree 9F and under is Dans game and 9 F and over is POEs turf... A meeting at 9 panels is just right .. Too bad AK wasnt still around to join the fun!! · 31 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Wise Dan wants a mile, Point of Entry wants 10+. Not a fair game any way you put it and Lopresti has made it clear that Wise Dan is running in the Stephen Foster. · 31 days ago ·

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Waya · Two great horses. What an appetizer it would be for the Derby! And cocoa2, shouldn't you read the article before making dumb comments? · 31 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · That would be a great match-up. I love both of those turf stars! · 31 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Waya, I did read the article. I was emphasizing two points that make this a fantasy. Shouldn't you think before making dumb comments? · 31 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Cocoa2, I usually ignore this sort of thing, but you make so many uninformed comments, that I decided to respond. As far as your first point, both horses have proven themselves at nine furlongs. Point of Entry is coming off a monster race at nine furlongs and has been pointing for this race all along. Both LoPresti and Fink told me that they want to run Wise Dan at longer than a mile again this year, and Wise Dan was pointing for a nine furlong race for his next race regardless of whether it is the Woodford Reserve or not. As for your second point ... As stated clearly in my article, with Successful Dan coming back a winner, the Stephen Foster would be an extremely logical race for his next start. Given that LoPresti and Fink are not going to run Wise Dan against his older brother, the Woodford Reserve is very much in play for him as a next start. It might not happen, but as of today, it is very possible. · 31 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · "you make so many uninformed comments", good enough · 31 days ago ·

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Floridaf · To add an extra log to the already raging fire, Animal Kingdom flattered Point of Entry's GP Turf 'Cap win by turning right around and winning the Dubai World Cup. Secondly, Cocoa2, I strongly disagree with your opinion concerning the fairness of 9 furlongs. Since 9 panels is not ideal for either Wise Dan or Point of Entry, then I would say that it is quite fair because it does not give a clear advantage to either one. · 31 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Love it Brian!. Point Of Entry is King George/QE Material. He should dispatch Wise Dan easily at 9f. That is just MY opinion. In fact Point Of entry could very easily win every 10f+ GR1-T he enters this year and could end up with 10 or more GR1 wins by the time he retires. Such a super talent. · 31 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · I think Floridaf hits the nail on the regarding both horses. While I like WD very much, I am a POE fan and think he is improving with every race. · 31 days ago ·

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Sullivan · Floridaf, thank you for your contained response. I think 9f puts both horses so far out of their element that it · 31 days ago ·

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Sullivan · 's just like "Why?" sure it's a classy race and all but Wise Dan has races more suited to him that are more prestigious and so does Point of Entry · 31 days ago ·

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head_heart_hooves · Here's how I look at it: the two best turf horses in the country are meeting. Period. Fine with me! · 31 days ago ·

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rafirox · Zipse- Fantastic article. I alway look foward to them... Great comments, Zipse and Floridaf, "like" on each. I find this match up, as any horse fan should, very intriguing. Point of Entry, ever since stretching out and maturing, has been a monster! He has strings of G1 wins, and his only loss came in the BC Turf, which I may add was a damn biased surface and he had a less than ideal trip. Besides this race, which was quite the effort, he has not been defeated for an entire year. The distance argument, as you two noted, I strongly disagree with. While nine furlongs is not the best distance for Point of Entry nor Wise Dan, both can handle. Are we seriously forgetting that Point of Entry just won the Gulfstream Turf Handicap against a pretty good horse who came back to win the Dubai World Cup. What was his name? Animal Something? He beat Animal Kingdom, a monster, going that distance, and on top of that he did it without much trouble. Wise Dan, while known as a miler, on several occasions he has stretched out to nine furlongs, and did it succsessfully. I think the distance, which is fair, should add a little something to the mix, and it makes it all the more fun to watch. Call me crazy, stupid and ignorant, but, these two turf horses are amazing. Wise Dan is one of the purest, American, middle distance turf horse I have seen in my existence. Point of Entry is a monster going longer distances, and he can he cut-back! Besides one loss, he hasn't loss in a year! He truly is a monster! Two great jockeys (I'd assume Johnny V vs. Joel Rosario), two great trainers (Shug and Motion) and two great horses (Point of Entry and Wise Dan).... As a racing fan, I am dying to see this race, if it happens, which it might not. Fantastic article, Zipse. Thanks for writing. "like" on your comment and floridaf's comment. · 31 days ago ·

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Protagonist · Easy choice, or is it easier said than done? Should a match race come about between these two fantastic Turf Runners, my money WILL be on Point Of Entry! Especially should a match race between the two be RUN in NEW YORK! · 30 days ago ·

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hdinky316 · The interesting aspect is that John Velasquez rides both horses.Which one of these excellent horses will he choose? If he chooses Point Of Entry,I hope Jose Lezcano rides Wise Dan.He has ridden him flawlessly in his two victories on him. · 30 days ago ·

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AmbitiousD · Wise Dan put in a bullet 5f work in 59.60 (1/14) today at Keenland. If there was any doubt of his form before his debut, I think we can rest assured, the champ is going to be tough to beat in his next start. I really hope it is against Point of Entry. · 30 days ago ·

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Floridaf · From what I understand, hdinky, Johnny V. is committed to Point of Entry. · 30 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Good to hear Floridaf. · 30 days ago ·

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Sullivan · Over Wise Dan? · 30 days ago ·

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timmy.parkerson · at churchill downs wise dan will beat point of entry easily turns are tight point of entruy will have tuff time getting to him . but at a mile and a quarter point of entry would win · 25 days ago ·

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timmy.parkerson · at churchill downs wise dan will beat point of entry easily turns are tight point of entruy will have tuff time getting to him . but at a mile and a quarter point of entry would win · 25 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · It looks like it is happening! · 25 days ago ·

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Age of Reason · Yes indeed, Brian. Claire Novak over at BH has it on their front page that Lopresti has confirmed Wise Dan for the Woodford. I don't get truly excited about a race very often, but I haven't been this ecstatic about a race this century since Zenyatta's and Blame's BC Classic in 2010! · 25 days ago ·

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Floridaf · With Silver Max, Optimizer, Data Link, Jeranimo, and Slim Shadey all possible for the race, the Woodford Reserve has the potential to completely overshadow the Derby. · 25 days ago ·

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kay.robinett · YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cannot wait for this race. · 25 days ago ·

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timmy.parkerson · well guys we all asked for it looks like we are going to get it . wow the kentucky derby plus wise dan vrs point of entry on the under card . doesnt get any better !!! · 25 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · This will be a great race. I like Wise Dan, but I am a POE supporter · 25 days ago ·

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Howe Great's Team Looking at Turf Classic

Team Valor International’s Howe Great came out of his Saturday allowance victory on the turf in good order, according to Dave Rock, assistant to trainer Graham Motion.Read More

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Wise Dan Nominated to Woodford Reserve

Reigning Horse of the Year Wise Dan, 2011 Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (Grade I) winner Animal Kingdom, Breeders’ Cup Turf (GI) champion and defending winner Little Mike and four-time Grade I winner Point of Entry head one of the strongest rosters of early nominations in the 28-year histo...Read More

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On The Gallop's · Point of Entry should beat Wise Dan in the Woodford Reserve. · 79 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · Wow that would be a great race if all the top horses show up, but the chances of that are pretty slim. It could be a great start for Wise Dan though, I hope he comes back as strong as last year. · 78 days ago ·

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