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2013 Holy Bull (G3)

Date/Track:
1/26/2013, Gulfstream Park
Post Time:
5:05 PM ET
Distance:
1 1/16 m (Dirt)
Age/Sex:
3 M
Time:
1:41.81

What the Nation is saying about the 2013 Holy Bull (G3)...

Unlike The Dark Horse, Chris Sorenson, who is taking the safe pick in Orb, I believe Itsmyluckyday has the ability to pull off a Kentucky Derby surprise.Read More
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  • amino998 · Interesting angle, but if Orb doesn't run his race for any of many possible reasons, IMLD could be best of the rest at a fat price. · 433 days ago ·
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  • dani.pugh · Funny Cide had the lead turning for home in the Wood, had it for a short time in the stretch before Empire Maker passed him. It was not by daylight, but under a hand ride. So, if we are being picky, it happened exactly 10 years ago. · 432 days ago ·
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Can it really be true? The reigning 2 year old champion may not qualify for the Kentucky Derby? Although we have been discussing this hypothetical situation for weeks, it stings just a bit to know it is now likely becoming a reality. Read More
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  • travel_vic · the proclivites that evoke votes for 2 year/old are no where the same as the that same award the next year...UNTIL these differing champions align, they will remain as they are now, as different as night is to day. · 464 days ago ·
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  • marylandgq · Is it too early to talk about PREAKNESS probables? "Bobby" heads this list followed by Palace Malice and Departing. · 464 days ago ·
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The big three of Itsmyluckyday, Orb, and Shanghai Bobby promise to make the Grade 1 Gulfstream Park affair as big as any Derby prep race this year.Read More
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  • Sysonby · Big LIKE to Mary Z! · 475 days ago ·
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  • Mary Z. · Thanks, Sysonby. I love horse racing now, and I know there are problems. I have a gap of lost time from 1980-1998, and it seems that those years are when changes in stakes distances, number of starts, medications allowed occurred. · 475 days ago ·
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With the proliferation of Thoroughbred horses “starting” Twitter accounts, I thought it time to capitalize on this growing social/equine media trend and propose a “Tweeter-view” with one of the many three-year-olds vying to be the next Kentucky Derby champion. With such a great idea, why not start w...Read More
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  • zatt · Who does he think will win the Oscar for best picture? · 502 days ago ·
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  • tony bada bing · Shanghai Bobby is quite talkative and was a great interview. He's so busy it took a few days. Today I have lined up a special pre and post race tweeter-view with his stablemate Violence and Goldencents is possible for next week. Fun stuff. · 501 days ago ·
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Itsmyluckyday set a new track record for 1 1/16 miles in the Holy Bull Stakes. Can he carry his speed into the Kentucky Derby?Read More
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  • Sully · Sorry, just remember this so well because I called it and Curlin's BCC win. · 523 days ago ·
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  • dipak1 · Mrs.Laurie Ross's acessment sounds very positive and it is also my opinion, he is strong but doubt about his staying power in derby distance? · 507 days ago ·
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A Preakness winning, juvenile champion not having qualified for the Kentucky Derby? Now that would be chaos! Read More
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  • myntjulius · I think the interesting spin that this puts on the equation is that now the trainers who want to swoop in and win one of the big prep races, then on to the triple crown and retire with 7 races under their belt are over. Talented racers who are willing to contest 3 of 4 races prior to the triple crown may now earn their due. No more one hit wonders, but talented racers who are willing to compete against the best anytime, any placxe, anywhere. That is the right path to the next triple crown. · 524 days ago ·
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  • equineplay · While the new system may not be the perfect way of determining who gets in, I will say that with proper planning a owner and trainer can form a stradegy that gains points early, as a two year old , and if sucessful as a two year old, pick a couple of races that can rest a early point earner prior to the derby. The last few 50 point races and all of the 100 point races are going to be big fields and very tough on the horses looking to get in. · 524 days ago ·
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Blogger, Laura Pugh, reveals her new Derby Dozen after the first major prep of the season necessitated some changes...Read More
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  • AnneShaw · He's Had Enough??? · 526 days ago ·
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  • dani.pugh · Anne, not a fan of him for a couple reasons. One, his inconsistency. Two, he had all the momentum in the Juvenile, and especially after Bobby stopped he should have been able to blow by...he didn't. Three Only two Tapits have ever won a grade one at 10f, one of them was an older horse. Tapits seem to excel at 8/8.5f, but almost never beyond that. Tim, I want to see Fury Kapcori learn to not be so dead set on wanting the lead. Talented horse, but he always has to right in the thick of things, and more often than not, he will lose ground in the stretch for that reason. · 526 days ago ·
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Many conclusions can be drawn from Saturday, some justified and others based purely on bias. A well-drawn conclusion would be that a new and dangerous face has emerged on the road to the Kentucky Derby. Another would be we may have witnessed the birth of a great American female sprinter. One conclus...Read More
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  • Mike in SB · I saw where both Shanghai Bobby and Itsmyluckyday are going to wait for the Florida Derby. It will be a good rematch but probably a much better field. Since both will need to hit the board to be sure of a place in the Derby lineup, it seems very possible one of them will not have enough points to make the Kentucky Derby field. · 527 days ago ·
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  • DeadHeat · Bobby could get third and probably still have enough points. Itsmyluckyday would need to win or place, though. I do not mind either staying with their original plan, though I would like to see Bobby run back in the FOY w/o blinkers. I think that may help with his loafing on the lead, once he establishes a clear one. He is a horse that responds well to competition, with blinkers he cannot see the horse if they are slightly behind him nor even if they are abreast him. Take the blinkers off and he will be able to see them very clearly. · 527 days ago ·
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As I have mentioned in previous posts. It is way too soon to start naming the horses for the Derby. We have not seen horses that will eventually be in the Derby. Many races to run before that great day in May.
  • Dressage3295 · Of course its not. Quite a few derby winners have come out of these preps. Its perfectly reasonable to start paying attention to the winners and horses who run well in these races. · 528 days ago ·
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  • goblin · There are many races still to be run, yes, but the current races (Holy Bull, Smarty Jones, Lecomte, etc.) are awarding points under the new system at this time. · 528 days ago ·
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As I have mentioned in previous posts. It is way too soon to start naming the horses for the Derby. We have not seen horses that will eventually be in the Derby. Many races to run before that great day in May.
Shanghai Bobby Upset by a New Face on the Road to the Kentucky Derby. Read More
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  • BrianZipse · *Editor's Note* - Just because there was a name change, impeachthespeaker, does not mean the race did not exist before becoming the Holy Bull. · 528 days ago ·
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  • amino998 · To call this well reasoned article "completely FLAWED" based on one discrepancy (an erroneous one at that) is over the top. · 528 days ago ·
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Itsmyluckyday wore down previously undefeated Shanghai Bobby in Saturday's Grade III Holy Bull Stakes at Gulfstream Park. Read More
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  • icyhotboo · It was a saver bet Mary, I didn't think IMLD could beat SB from the #7pp as I thought he would be floated wide 1st turn by the #3. I didn't see anything else here but those two, so I had to reverse for less though. only bet a few dollars, 2yos are tough. · 529 days ago ·
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  • Mary Z. · I call them that, too, icy, 'til I get used to the new year, plus most are just officially three years old. · 529 days ago ·
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Fredericksburg and Tuilra Castle are the horses that'll shock people.
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  • yukichan · I watched the pre-race interview with Matz and he did not seem all that confident, noting the deep field, saying if he couldn't run with these guys he would go to turf. · 529 days ago ·
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  • cocoa2 · With Dynaformer as a turf sire I would like to see him target turf races and stick to tracks more friendly to turf horses · 529 days ago ·
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Todd Pletcher sends undefeated Eclipse Award winner Shanghai Bobby into the Holy Bull as the likely favorite, but history is against the Champ winning his first start as a three-year-old.Read More
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  • Lisa111 · dani.pugh, I am very glad that I took the time to read your posts today. It allowed me the chance to revisit the entire race with a different mindset. As most who are looking to beat the favorite for a payoff one still must make the best decision no matter what the payoff is offering. I dont like going into a race being "afraid" of any horse so I went back and forgot about Bobbys name and the fact that he is the favorite. He will be on my exotics. Thanks again for your posts. · 529 days ago ·
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  • ruffianlover · I agree with dani. Bobby is similar to the Biscuit where he seems to enjoy a challenge. He seems to not like having a horse pass him. I think that he lost focus when on the lead and was not sure what to do now that he had the lead. As soon as he saw HHE come close to him- he was sort of like "Oh crap I have to run again- no way I let this guy pass me". He also showed he had that extra kick left in him when running very close to the flying pace with title contender at the begging of the race. Can this horse get the distance? Not sure yet. But is the Juvenile an accurate race to justify that he can't? No. · 529 days ago ·
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On Saturday (Jan. 26th), ten potential Triple Crown nominees will run in (race 10) the $400k Grade 3 Holy Bull Stakes at Gulfstream Park. Run at a distance of 1 1/16th miles, scheduled Post Time for this Derby point system event is 5:05pm (EST). The 4-5 Morning Line (M/L) favorite is #1 – Shanghai B...Read More
Recently crowned juvenile champion Shanghai Bobby puts his undefeated record to the test when he faces a loaded field of ten in the $400,000 Holy Bull Stakes at Gulfstream Park. Read More
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  • travel_vic · ONE race a career does not make. takes two in a row before significant qustions arise · 529 days ago ·
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  • yukichan · Post time is 5:05 pm ET for Holy Bull, 4:05 for the Forward Gal. Free PP for both races can be found here: http://downthestretchs.wordpress.com/2013-giii-holy-bull-stakes-this-saturday-posts-picks-ml-odds-free-pps/ · 529 days ago ·
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Of the horses in this race that have won at this distance (Bobby, Daddy, and Dewey) only Bobby won in a graded stakes... just something I noticed
Bern Identity, who will make his 3-year-old debut in Saturday’s $400,000 Holy Bull (G3) at Gulfstream Park, is generally regarded as the biggest danger to undefeated Shanghai Bobby, the 4-5 morning-line favorite.Read More
Upon learning all about jockey Julie Krone’s unparalleled successes, highlighted by an historic winning ride aboard Colonial Affair in the 1993 Belmont Stakes, a 7-year-old Rosie Napravnik set a couple of career goals for herself. Read More
Tulira Castle, Frac Daddy, Dewey Square, Shanghai Bobby

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