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2013 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2)

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Date/Track:

3/30/2013, Gulfstream Park

Post Time:

3:56 PM ET

Distance:

1 1/8 m (Dirt)

Age/Sex:

3 F

Time:

1:48.97

*Rank is current Power Ranking among all active horses, based on highest HRN rating. Rating is based on HRN member voting.

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Trainer / Jockey

Last Start / Next Start

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Dreaming of Julia
A. P. Indy

8.20

T. Pletcher
J. Velazquez

4th, 2013 Kentucky Oaks (G1)

Aug 6 - Sar MSW (8/6/2012-R1)

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Live Lively
Medaglia d'Oro

7.52

M. Hennig
R. Maragh

2nd, 2013 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2)

Oct 28 - Maiden Stakes

3rd

Cue The Moon
Malibu Moon

7.49

H. Bond
R. Napravnik

3rd, 2013 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2)

Nov 4 - Tempted (G3)

4th

Kimberly Jean
More Than Ready

K. McPeek
C. Lanerie

5th, Kee Allow (4/12/2013-R4)

Oct 5 - Kee MSW (10/5/2012-R6)

5th

Emollient
Empire Maker

7.19

W. Mott
J. Lezcano

6th, 2013 Black-Eyed Susan (G2)

Nov 4 - Tempted (G3)

6th

Original Script
Malibu Moon

P. Attard
E. Trujillo

6th, 2013 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2)

Oct 13 - WO MSW (10/13/2012-R1)

What the Nation is saying about the 2013 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2)...

Can anyone beat Dreaming of Julia in the Kentucky Oaks?

After a more than impressive win in the Gulfstream Oaks, all eyes will be on Dreaming of Julia in the Kentucky Oaks. Will she roll once again?Read More

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On The Gallop's · Close Hatches! · 29 days ago ·

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amino998 · Can?>>Yes, several. · 29 days ago ·

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brogan.kornaus · I think Unlimited Budget might be able to · 29 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · The Oaks will have an AMAZING field. Several of them would be big favorites in most other races. · 29 days ago ·

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Floridaf · I WANT Rose to Gold to defeat Julia because that will only make her story that much more amazing. · 29 days ago ·

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Aviator · (Jay S.) Do you see it happening, floridaf? · 29 days ago ·

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Lisa111 · If I get could actually get up the guts to bet againts DOJ, it would have to be Midnight Lucky. · 29 days ago ·

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yukichan · Midnight Lucky was an absolute freak at Sunland Oaks, fast track or not, absolute freak. · 29 days ago ·

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Lisa111 · I know!! Serious Race. I think I have viewed that race 20 times and I can't get tired of it! · 29 days ago ·

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kentuckyderbypost · hmmmm..........of course DOJ can be beat. But then again you're right, that performance down south was absolutely amazing. My top choices to beat her would have to be Beholder and Rose to Gold. Should be a very exciting race, can't wait. · 29 days ago ·

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Uncle Mo · Is Julia better than Rachael? · 29 days ago ·

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Dressage3295 · @Uncle Mo- I guess she'll begin to answer that come Oaks day. I love this filly and I hope she can go on to do at least half of what Rachel did · 29 days ago ·

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manuel.abadjr · midnite · 29 days ago ·

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bob.schless.1 · There is a lot of speed in this race which could lead to tiring horses down the stretch. Look at Unlimited Budget's race 2 back and that could be what we're looking at in the Oaks and she won her last prep race that has been key for 5 of the last 9 Oaks winners. · 29 days ago ·

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jmac500 · I agree Unlimited Budget. · 29 days ago ·

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Waya · Nice article, Brian. I agree handing the Oaks over to Dreaming of Julia is premature. · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Native Dancer, Man O War, Zenyatta etc. were beatable, as is Dreaming of Julia. Very few like Colin are truly unbeatable. · 28 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Colin truly unbeatable? I think Sysonby proved undefeated means only so much · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Cocoa. Colin was undefeated and in the words of one of the great turf writers, Kent Hollingsworth:" great horses have been beaten by mischance, racing luck, injury and lesser horses running the race of their lives. None of these took Colin. He was unbeatable." I believe Sysonby's loss to a drugging would come under the heading mischance in the above quotation. ND and MOW and Zenyatta would be racing luck and or a horse running the race of their lives. · 28 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · I think Colin could've been beaten and apparently Rowe did too, that's why he wasn't raced in Europe. Colin did better than others, for sure, but unbeatable doesn't exist · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · I do agree that unbeatable doesn't truly exist, however, that being said, Colin, Ribot, Frankel were not beaten in any of their races. · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Cocoa. Rowe may have felt Colin was beatable. However, when Rowe died, the only epitaph that he wanted on his grave stone was "He trained Colin." Given the notable horses Rowe trained, that was praise indeed. · 28 days ago ·

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bettorthanlucky · DOJ is obviously beatable since she has lost twice... But I agree she will be tough to beat... Maybe the question should be asked of Budget and Hatches since they are yet to be beaten · 28 days ago ·

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Floridaf · This is horse racing, Aviator, so yes, I could see it happening. DOJ is VERY vulnerable when she is not close to the lead. All Rose to Gold has to do is be quick out of the gate, stalk the early pace and let Beholder and Unlimited Budget do all the dirty work, and pounce in the stretch. · 28 days ago ·

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Aviator · floridaf, I didn't mean it like, "Are you crazy!" I meant with your insight, does Rose To Gold have a good shot? I know almost nothing about her. · 28 days ago ·

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Aviator · I shoulda articulated myself better. :) · 28 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Either way, the result is the same lol :-) Rose to Gold is not a need the lead type, so I could easily see her sitting right off the pace while the need the lead fillies do battle. If the other speed can open up at least 3 lengths on Julia, then the whole field has a shot, especially Rose, who is all heart. · 28 days ago ·

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Aviator · (jay s.) Sounds like she's got the potential. Hopefully, she'll run big. · 28 days ago ·

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ismalli · Post Position may be the final arbitration-element in 2013 Oaks · 28 days ago ·

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travel_vic · ANY horse can get beat on ANY day of the year, just ask Native Dancer amongst many others. · 28 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Dreaming of Julia definitely would have been in my top two Derby picks if she was allowed to run. Her GP Oaks time of 148.4, practically eased up, humbled Orb’s 1.51.4 Florida Derby time in a hard drive. Another reason why this points system isn’t working like it should. Unless fillies compete against and win G1 races against colts, their Derby possibilities are virtually over. · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · You're absolutely right about this problem with the point system. I hope it gets corrected as it will prevent very qualified fillies from making the gate. I really think that CD when they devised this system did not think about the filly issue · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · PS Laz good to have back commenting. Always look forward to your posts. · 28 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Hey Buckpasser. It would be nice if the Hawthorne issue could be settled once and for all. The Illinois Derby, a 750K race with 14 starters, and if means absolutely nothing. I'm sure that if they took this race into consideration it would be moved back a couple of weeks. Another example of the powers that be kicking themselves in the butt. · 28 days ago ·

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bettorthanlucky · I've been watching horse racing since I was a teenager... One thing I've learned is the stopwatch from the previous race doesn't always have much bearing on the next race... DOJ has won by wide margins in impressive times when she has had things her way... Horses who aren't pace horses like Orb just run down whatever is in front of them regardless of the pace and that is how they win... What impresses me is the WIN... Also, the trainers are able to run their fillies against the colts in the prep races but they choose not to, for obvious reasons... My point is time is just ONE way of measuring a race... · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Laz. The problem with the Illinois Derby is clearly political with Arlington owned by Twin Spires. In reading about the awarding of Derby simulcasting in Illinois between the two tracks by the Illinois Board, it is clear that the infighting between the two tracks is open warfare. I think that some of these issues might be resolved with expanded gambling and slots allowed at the tracks that would help provide a revenue stream. And yes I am well aware of the Faustian bargain made between horse racing and slots, but it this situation it might help both tracks bury the hatchet. But clearly this issue can be resolved. Personally, I have felt the point system has worked better than I thought. Certainly the earnings criteria had to go given the high purses now. · 28 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · The win always impresses me too, which is why I was particularly impressed with the way in which Dreaming of Julia turned the tables on Live Lively after that one beat her by 1-1/2 lengths in their previous race. Also, Dreaming of Julia rated in this race, something they have been trying to get her to do. No question in my mind that Orb is the horse to beat in the Derby, IMO more so than Verrazano, (even though at this point I like Will Take Charge for upset potential), but based of Dreaming of Julia’s GP Oaks, it is far more impressive than any other 3 year old prep race so far, and this for a filly that always fires. An as far as having things her own way, I think that in the GP Oaks she made them her way. · 28 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · BTW Buckpasser I always look forward to your posts. I totally agree that the infighting has to be resolved. It is hurting racing in general, IMO, and at a time when the number of tracks is shrinking. I always thought that Hawthorne has been left out in the cold, not only in the spring, but in the fall as well. A race in particular that should be built up more is the Gold Cup during their fall meet. It is a legitimate 10F race on dirt and IMO should be given G1 status, if for any reason but to encourage top horses to run those longer distances more often. Racing is paddy caking itself to death IMO and this has resulted in numerous injuries and horses running relatively few race during their careers. As for the Derby Points System, I actually really like it. However, I think it should be twinked a little to allow fillies to enter the Derby without having to run against the top colts at such an early age just to be allowed to enter. · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · I have been an Orb fan even with his gate issues in the beginning as I have always followed Phipps horses needless to say, but I think Orb has improved with each victory. I think Shug is training to peak at the right time and I think the Phipps may have a Derby winner if needless to say all goes well. I personally am not that impressed by Verrazano, which may be famous last words but I don't think so. I do think Wll Take Charge if he doesn't win will definitely get a piece of the action and I do like Revolutionary. But the post positions will decide a lot. · 28 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Agree about the Gold Cup fully. I have always had issues with the few and fewer races run by horses. Nerud was always right that about the old time trainers seasoning their horses with less works and more racing. I think the point system has forced horses to compete against each other more often which obviously makes for an exciting race for the fans, but also weeds out some horses that really don't belong in the Derby and makes some other owners realize that while they may have a nice horse, he just might not be ready for the Derby and not clog up the field. I also like the point system because it de emphasizes the two yr old races and does not allow a horse to coast into the gate based on a good two yr old season but a low race three yr old season. · 28 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · It would be nice to see the Phipps win the Derby. So many great candidates leading up to it in the past and yet so many disappointments. One of my greatest regrets was not having Buckpasser compete because of injury. And to think that he beat the TC winners later that same year. · 27 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Quite true about the Phipps family. I remember Bold Ruler well and Bold Lad who just wasn't as great a three yr old as a two yr old. I think Dapper Dan did better in finishing second than people thought. Interestingly Revolutionary's dam side features Dapper Dan's dam So Chic. Successor was a disappointment to say the least. And Buckpasser 's quarter crack sidelined him until an allowance race on the undercard of the Belmont Stakes. I always liked Kaui King and agreed with his trainer he shouldn't have run in the Arlington Classic. I do think Buckpasser would have easily won the Belmont that year. The Derby and Preakness I am not too sure of. I think he may well have had more trouble in the Preakness than the Derby. I think Baeza could have kept him out of trouble there. · 27 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · I actually think that Buckpasser would have won the TC that year. To me he was always a “boss type” of horse and usually he won by small amounts, but he still managed to win. His Chicken Flamingo, when it appeared after he was passed in the stretch and was going to be defeated (Abe’s Hope went two lengths in front at the eight pole) then seemingly decided that he really did want to win that race and with only a couple of cracks of the whip dug in and made a dramatic spurt to come on and regain the lead at the end, was typical of his effort or lack of it at times. Even when he set the world’s record in the Arlington Classic he still didn’t win by much, just enough. His ability in winning the 10F Travers and 10F Brooklyn Hdcp. against older horses later in his three year-old year were both, once again, typical of his winning style, though in the Brooklyn he really had to tough it out from the quarter pole home. Both these races made me believe that he would have won both the Derby and the Preakness. The only three year-old that would have compared to him, IMO, was Graustark and Baeza, who rode them both, always maintained that Graustark was the better of the two. A potentially great rivalry that unfortunately never took place. · 27 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · I saw Graustark and believed then and still do that was better than Buckpasser and it may well have been an Affirmed and Alydar rivalry. My personal favorite race of Buckpasser's was the Champagne. It was one of the few races he won by several lengths four I believe. He was beaten as they turned for home. Baeza hit him twice and he responded with that big stride of his and ate up the ground and passed every one as if they were standing still. He left some nice horses in his wake including Priceless Gem who beat him the Futurity. Also his Jockey Club Gold Cup was a good race as well against Niarchos etc. Buckpaser was a lot like Seabiscuit as he needed to be head to head with another horse. He was a great one. When I saw him at Claiborne years later, the guide said to be careful as he would bite you as soon as look at you. · 27 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Graustark came from a good family and it’s not surprising that he was so good; but I still am a bit of a doubter as to which was better, Buckpasser or Graustark. There is something about lazy type runners who seem to only want to expend enough energy to win. When a horse wins a lot of races by relatively close margins, and in many of those races the times aren’t all that remarkable, and then it goes out and blows the teletimer away because it needed to run really fast to get the win, this speaks volumes about class and character. Buckpasser had both as I’m sure that Graustark did too. At least Buckpasser had an opportunity to show how good he was in winning races from 6F to 2 miles and I still think that at his best there was even more to show. Graustark, with I believe only 8 or 9 career starts and a career that was over before the Derby, didn’t really get that chance to display his obvious brilliant potential and this is why he was probably omitted from the Bloodhorse Top 100 list. For Baeza to say that he was the best horse he had ever ridden at this point in Graustark’s career is remarkable. · 27 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · I understand your feelings about the two Laz and personally I always wanted Buckpasser to be the better of the two, but having seen Graustark and Buckpasser both race, I was still mor impressed with Graustark. And of course, Baeza's opinion carries weight. It would have been interesting to see who Baeza would have chosen to ride in the TC if both had been sound. · 27 days ago ·

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Aviator · LAZ, Chris McCarron said similar things about Alysheba. Said Alysheba didn't care about leaving horses behind and would start to pull-up on the lead. Of course, I don't even want to start talking about Gate Dancer. :) · 27 days ago ·

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aviator · As if I'm telling you something you don't already know. :) · 27 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Aviator great points. Two more great horses that seem to be lengths better than the three year olds that we are seeing today. One of my favorite races was when ALysheba actually lost the BCC in a very deep field by a nose to Ferdinand (Durkin’s stretch call IMO one of the best ever). Alysheba won 11 races and nine of them (not including his DQ’d head win in the Blue Grass) were by less than a length. Gate Dancer was similar. He won only 7 of 28 starts, but usually faced really tough competition, the likes of Greinton, Turkoman, Precisionist, Swale, Chief’s Crown, Wild Again, Vandlandingham, Proud Truth, etc., several of which went on to be Eclipse champions and two of them BCC winners). However, he also lost several races by less than half a length and they all would have been G1 races today. · 27 days ago ·

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Sullivan · I thnk 3 year old Orb could've opened up on 3 year old Alysheba and beat him by a neck · 27 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Sullivan, Orb might have beaten Alysheba at this point in their careers. It might be a stretch to think that he would have beaten him from the Derby on. When Alysheba won the Derby, he was still only a maiden winner and a non-winner at three (he actually won the Blue Grass, but was DQ’d.). The Derby was his coming out party so to speak. At four, Alysheba had the ability to give any horse a tough time, especially at 10F, a distance where he won 5 of 6 with a second, all in G1 races, five of those races at different tracks and three of his wins under two minutes. · 27 days ago ·

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Sullivan · Laz, we are yet to see Orb at 4, but I would agree that a 3 year old Orb could not take a 4 year old Alysheba, that's unchallengable · 27 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Sullivan I neglected to say that too. We know what Alysheba did in his career. I think it's only right to wait and see how Orb's career pans out. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · (Aviator) LAZ, I couldn't agree more with your take on the 87 BCC. "THE TWO DERBY WINNERS HIT THE LINE TOGETHER!" I've got chill bumps from head to toe thinking about it. Those horses of the 80s meant so much to me. Perhaps cause I was still impressionable, and that may be partially true. But to me, Swale, Gate Dancer, Turkoman, Spend A Buck, Chief's Crown, Alysheba, Ferdinand, Tank's Prospect, Easy Goer, Sunday Silence, Precisionist, Greinton, etc were truly special. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Wild Again, Life's Magic, Lady's Secret, Althea, Demon's Begone, Sunny's Halo, Snow Chief, Slew 'O Gold, Desert Wine, Judge Angelucci, Skywalker, Creme Freiche (Sp?) Cryptoclearance, Stephan's Odyssey. I could go on-and-on. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Danzig Connection, Temperance Hill, Rampage, Red Attack, Imp Society, ..... · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Phone Trick.... I loved them all. · 27 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Quote: Colin did better than others, for sure, but unbeatable doesn't exist Am I to review the unbeaten t-breds out there yet again? including Bay Roanld, Ajax, Flying Childers etc?? The word impossible does not realte to the 30 something all time winners. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Yeah LAZ, I've always said if Gate Dancer had the mentality more like Swale (drive on pass ya), and less like Ferdinand, HE would've gone down as one of the greatest in the last 1/2 of last century. He ducked no one, and faced all the best of that day. · 27 days ago ·

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travel_vic · the two Derby winners Classic was a good one. We were right about the 1/8th pole and had to guage from a parallzx behind that favors the outside horse....Eyes from that angle gave it to the wider placed Alysheba. · 27 days ago ·

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Sullivan · Unbeaten exists. Unbeatable does not. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · IMO, that '87 BCC is legendary, like the inaugural. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Nod to the inaugural, though. Woulda given almost anything to have been there like you were. · 27 days ago ·

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travel_vic · of all the classics, too many forget how dramatic the inaugural actually was. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Truer words have never been spoken, tv. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · "....and WILD AGAIN does it!" · 27 days ago ·

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travel_vic · I took shots, on post parade, of every entrant in that field save on from down on the rail and OFC OURSE you know who that was?? · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · I can't imagine what it must've been like standing on the rail and seeing those three literally battle down the stretch. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · I still have that photo as my screensaver. · 27 days ago ·

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SSilence86 · Now that is where the word AWESOME comes in to play. · 27 days ago ·

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travel_vic · THose all come the silver based age whne you had to take 30 shots to get one great one...DIgital is far cheaper and quicker · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · No doubt. Good point. · 27 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Jay that '87 BCC will always be in my top ten favorite races all time. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · I'm with you LAZ. Great, great race. Last night I re-watched the '86 Kentucky Derby. It suddenly hit me that these two greats, Shoemaker and Ferdinand, would be joined with terribly tragic endings. · 27 days ago ·

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Jay S. · Also, the next year with America's Horse winning in the dark at Churchill. Awesome. · 27 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Forty Niner would have had a say that next year had it not been for the most incompetent ride I have, in all seriousness, EVERy witness when Julie Krone took the almost need to lead Forty Niner off the pace and down by the rail (WHERE no horse save Gulch had moved up all day.) we will never know, but I'll bet several dozen other riders would have not put in such an incompetent move. · 27 days ago ·

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ZATT’s Star of the Week, is … Emollient!

If not for a race seven days earlier, Emollient would have been considered one of the most promising three-year-old fillies in the nation, and a big favorite in yesterday’s feature at Keeneland. What a difference a week makes. Rebounding from a 30 length drubbing at the hands of a spectacular perfor...Read More

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AndyScoggin · Not like Bill Mott to run a horse back in a week. Good decision. · 44 days ago ·

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Waya · Great race from that post. Do you think she can challenge Julia in the Oaks? · 42 days ago ·

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amino998 · 6-1 was an absolute gift. · 42 days ago ·

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Dreaming of Julia, Oaks, Derby, Preakness, ...

After such a monstrous effort in the Gulfstream Park Oaks, speculation arises ... What’s next for Dreaming of Julia?Read More

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cardsbymarcy · As usual, excellent! And a good point to make AGAINST the new Derby Point System, it is going to keep some really good fillies out of it, they need to revamp it!! · 49 days ago ·

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skipaway2000 · FWIW, All 3 fillies who have won the KY Derby faced males prior to the first Saturday in May & ran in the top 3 - Regret regularly beat colts at 2, Genuine Risk was 3rd in the Wood Memorial & Winning Colors won the SA Derby. · 49 days ago ·

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ashley.tamulonis · I propose "they" amend the system so that Oaks points can be used toward the Derby. Seems fair since Derby points can be used toward the Oaks in the event that a filly tries to go that route and then sticks with the Oaks after all. · 49 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · True ... while neither of the fillies that won the Preakness or Belmont in the modern era had ever raced against colts before. · 49 days ago ·

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ruffianlover · I see nothing wrong with DOJ taking on the girls in the Oaks. With only one of her performances being a spanking- if I were her owner I would want to see another dominating performance before I send her against a very talented 3YO male crop. If she destroys the Oaks field (which is going to be filled with some great fillies) THEN I do not see why they shouldn't consider running her in the Preakness or the Belmont. If she stays on top of her game this girl should do big things. I hope to see her match up against My Miss Aurelia one day. If these two both are on their A game then that should be one fantastic race. · 49 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · It would seem to be unfair to colts if fillies got Derby points for running in races restricted to females, personallly I don't have a problem with fillies needing to face males to get in the Derby. · 49 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · True about the Preakness and Belmont, where fillies did face the boys prior, but then again there wasn't a point system to get into those races. I do think there needs to be points given for some of the top filly races, but I also think they should race against the colts before the Derby. These are some of the tweaks this point system needs for the future. · 49 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · That should be did not face. · 49 days ago ·

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kentuckyderbypost · Tough one but I tend to think that the system will continue to ask a filly and her connections to face the boys and earn the points before the KyDerby. Of course that may change eventually but i wouldn't guess that anything gets revised on this front by this time next year. · 49 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · I wonder if the CD officials completely overlooked the possibility of another filly in the Derby? · 49 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Andy. Maybe so or they assumed that if the filly wanted to be in the Derby she had to earn her points the Same way the colts did. · 49 days ago ·

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nayrod64 · · As usual the chauvinistic world of horse racing affects the sexes even with the horse's. It's amazing that this mentally is still alive and well. This filly has earned her right and is possibly better than most of the colts today. I still believe Zenyatta would have won the triple crown if her previous chauvinistic owner allowed her to race in ther derby. · 2 seconds ago · 49 days ago ·

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amino998 · The fact that she began her career late in her 3 yo year may have had something to do with it. ;) · 49 days ago ·

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darlene · I,personally, like that a filly would have to face males prior to Derby to get in As stated the fillies that have won Derby had faced males before the win I don't think this was a mistake or oversight by CD · 49 days ago ·

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Reflections on a Missed Day of Racing

As it stood, though I could not watch the races live, I was able to get real time results thanks to the very kind people that took pity on me and posted race results and replay links to my Facebook wall. Read More

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ARBY · Filly, re: Animal Kingdom better late than never! · 50 days ago ·

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yukichan · Ashley you and me both..Thank goodness for my smart phone, twitter, FB and sites like HRN. Out of town for a fundraiser golf tournament, I got DWC result on 9th hole and shouted "YES ANIMAL KINGDOM" at the top of my lungs! Love my 4G smart phone and mobile hot spot... · 50 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Ashley, I would tell you that Saturday's racing was not that interesting to help ease your pain, but ... You know better! · 50 days ago ·

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LanieJohnson · Awww...how sweet of you!!! We wouldn't be anything without you lady!!! It was indeed a grand day and never ever fear....WE"VE GOT YOUR BACK..cause we KNOW YOU HAVE OURS!!!oxoxoxoxox · 50 days ago ·

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jay s. · floridaf is Ashley Tamulonis!?! Man...I'm clueless. Excellent article. · 50 days ago ·

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notobsessed · Sorry I wasn't there to help you...too caught up in the excitement of the races! Glad people took time to keep you updated! · 50 days ago ·

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HeatherSeiden · Hey, I can respect people's opinions and you always back yours up with facts. But welcome to ANIMAL WORLD DOMINATION time! In all seriousness, we are always here for you to help out. We can't all be in front of the TV for every big race day and it really helps to have social media to find out the latest news. · 50 days ago ·

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Floridaf · That would be me, jay ;-) Again, thank you to all of you! Heather, you are absolutely right. Social media is a Godsend at times. · 50 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · I think a lot of people were dismissing Dreaming of Julia because they don't like Pletcher. DOJ was going to win that race from any position on the track. That was a monstrous performance. · 50 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · She was going to win it from any gate? Andy Scoggin, I don't know if you remember her last start? Hind sight is 20/20. · 49 days ago ·

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amino998 · The way she ran and the other fillies didn't>>Yes, she was going to win from any position (closer to the pace or not) on the track. · 49 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · As we know in hindsight · 49 days ago ·

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amino998 · I think Andy was responding to the article, not claiming precognition. · 49 days ago ·

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Dreaming of Julia Big in the Gulfstream Park Oaks

Dreaming of Julia easily outran her rivals and her trainer’s expectations while drawing off to 21 ¾ length victory under a hand ride from jockey John Velazquez.Read More

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Dressage3295 · DOJ definitely looks like she's shaping up to be a good one. Scary good. Has been my early Oaks pick, and I am definitely sticking with her · 51 days ago ·

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nayrod64 · Crazy race, crazy run, crazy amazing horse. She blew them away and is improving as she gets older. Awesome filly! · 50 days ago ·

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Mark Hennig: Live Lively's Trainer Talks

Mark Hennig, a student of the horse racing game worked with some legendary trainers for going out on his own in the early 90's. Before his stakes winning, Live Lively starts in Gulfstream Park Oaks, he talks about his racing career and today's big race.Read More

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BrianZipse · Tough day for anyone in the GP Oaks not named Dreaming of Julia ... Live Lively will be back though, and good for Hennig on being one of the most friendly and responsive trainers on Twitter. · 52 days ago ·

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Gulfstream Oaks: Short in Number, not in Talent

Live Lively and Dreaming of Julia renew acquaintances, but Emollient might be ready to take them both down. Read More

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BrianZipse · I favor Dreaming of Julia, but any of the top three would be no surprise ... and how good is Cue the Moon? · 54 days ago ·

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Capper · No strong opinion in this race, but I'll be on Emollient for the KY for sure. Mix all the speed in this race with Beholder & any other front runners, the long stretch of CD and factor in Mott being the best trainer pointing for a specific spot.....Looks like I'll be celebrating Emollient's KY Oaks win at the Maker's Mark distillery! · 53 days ago ·

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rafirox · I don't have big feelings on this race. I might just throw a little money on Live Lively for fun. · 53 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Capper I agree. Emollient will be primed for the K.Oaks. Hope she stays sound. She could be a very good one. · 53 days ago ·

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UnionRagsRules · I love Dreaming of Julia, and I think she would love Churchill. Long stretch, and non-speed biased dirt. · 53 days ago ·

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2013 Gulfstream Park Oak...

1st - Emollient, 2nd - Kimberly Jean, 3rd - Dreaming of Julia, 4th - Live Lively.

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UnionRagsRules · Dreaming Of Julia, Emollient, Lie Lively. · 55 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Emollient, Dreaming of Julia, Live Lively · 54 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Emollient, Live Lively ,Original Script · 54 days ago ·

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rafirox · It seems as if I am in the minority, but: 1st- Live Lively 2nd- Dreaming of Julia 3rd- Emollient. I was a bit cufuzzled with how Majestic River (a filly Emollient barely beat) came back and threw a clunker. I gotten tons of updates from railbird friend in Florida and Live Lively seems to be the fittest and doing the best in morning activity. I think the change in tactics brought Live Lively to life. Only a 6 horse field, probably not much to make money on. Might toss a couple on Live Lively. · 54 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Live Lively has done nothing wrong at Gulfstream, and I really like her, but Emollient's pedigree screams distance. DOJ has a good chance, too, so long as Johnny V. doesn't let her lag too far off the pace like he did in her last two races. · 54 days ago ·

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rafirox · Emollient, believe it or not, *is* the #1 filly on my Oaks Dozen. But, once I studied this race on paper I just got shifted into a different direction. Live Lively just has ran superb at Gulfstream and (if I may add this quote from a friend) "Her attitude towards working in the morning and racing have improved notably ever since the change in tatics. Usually speed develops sooner rather than later, it took this one a while to utilize it, but her speed is a force to reckon with." I see Live Lively smoking to the front, and just get little competition. I see her smoking Original Script, and Original Script's synthetic form you have no idea how it will translate to dirt. She is by El Prado, so maybe she'll never go with Live Lively. Either way, Dreaming of Julia, in my opinion, doesn't have the correct style for this race. She's not speedy enough to keep up with Live Lively. I love Live Lively's pedigree and her performance is suggesting 1 1/8 mile should not be difficult. I see Emollient as a very logical choice, but I question her pace parameters. She hasn't faced what the other two contenders have. · 54 days ago ·

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Floridaf · The thing about DOJ, though, was that she had and used speed in her first three races. But then for some inexplicable reason, she went from being on or very close to the lead to running about 3 lengths back. When that started, she started losing. I don't know if it is truly a lack of speed or just a change in tactics. I really do adore Live Lively. I want her to win, but I just have this feeling about Emollient. · 54 days ago ·

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Live Lively, Dream of Julia Meet Again in GP Oaks

Lee Lewis’s Live Lively arrived at Palm Meadows for the winter following a three-quarters of a length maiden win at Aqueduct. Stonestreet Stable’s Dreaming of Julia arrived at the same time after finishing third in the $2 million Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies (G1) at Santa Anita. Read More

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Final GP Oaks Breeze Planned for Live Lively

Lee Lewis’ 3-year-old filly Live Lively will be among the favorites for next Saturday’s $250,000 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2) at 1 1/8 miles on Florida Derby Day and is scheduled for a final workout Sunday morning at Palm Meadows, according to trainer Mark Hennig.Read More

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Floridaf · On March 24, Live Lively breezed 4F in 49:78 (19/43) at Palm Meadows. · 59 days ago ·

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Live Lively Remains on Target for GP Oaks

All has gone well for Lee Lewis’ 3-year-old Kentucky-bred filly Live Lively since her wire-to-wire victory in the $250,000 Davona Dale Stakes (G2) on Feb. 23 as she continues preparation for her next start in the $300,000 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2), according to trainer Mark Hennig.Read More

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Live Lively Speeds to Davona Dale Victory

Live Lively announced her presence on the Kentucky Oaks trail in a huge way with a front-running win over heavily favored Dreaming of Julia in the G2 Davona Dale.Read More

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BrianZipse · A perfectly fine prep for Dreaming of Julia. · 87 days ago ·

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Sully · Think Live Lively benefited from the 5's stumble. Had it all her own way. · 87 days ago ·

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