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2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

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Date/Track:

3/30/2013, Meydan-UAE

Post Time:

1:20 PM ET

Distance:

1 1/2m (Turf)

Age/Sex:

3+ M

Time:

2:27.70

*Rank is current Power Ranking among all active horses, based on highest HRN rating. Rating is based on HRN member voting.

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Rating

Trainer / Jockey

Last Start / Next Start

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1st

St Nicholas Abbey
Montjeu

8.22

A. O'Brien
J. O'Brien

1st, 2013 Coronation Cup (G1)

Jul 6 - Coral-Eclipse (G1)

7-2

2nd

Gentildonna
Deep Impact

8.55

S. Ishizaka
Y. Iwata

2nd, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

3-2

3rd

Very Nice Name
Whipper

A. de Mieulle
O. Peslier

3rd, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

Jul 27 - King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1)

80-1

4th

Dunaden
Nicobar

7.98

M. Delzangles
J. Spencer

2nd, 2013 Coronation Cup (G1)

Jul 6 - Coral-Eclipse (G1)

8-1

5th

Await The Dawn
Giant's Causeway

6.76

M. De Kock
P. Cosgrave

5th, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

10-1

6th

Shareta
Sinndar

7.21

A. Royer-Dupre
C. Lemaire

6th, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

5-1

7th

Royal Diamond
King's Best

T. Carmody
J. Murtagh

3rd, 2013 Yorkshire Cup (G2)

40-1

8th

Girolamo
Dai Jin

P. Schiergen
A. Starke

1st, 2013 Gerling-Preis (G2)

30-1

9th

Sharestan
Shamardal

S. Suroor
S. De Sousa

9th, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

20-1

10th

Prince Bishop
Dubawi

4.45

S. Suroor
M. Barzalona

10th, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

Jul 27 - King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1)

25-1

11th

Trailblazer
Zenno Rob Roy

7.23

Y. Ikee
Y. Take

11th, 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)

12-1

What the Nation is saying about the 2013 Dubai Sheema Classic (G1)...

Little Mike and Dullahan Represent America

As two of the best horses in America, we hope for strong representation from the Romans' pair. Their Middle East odyssey begins in separate races on Saturday.Read More

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jinlie01 · like Dullahan in his prep race Saturday at Meydan. · 104 days ago ·

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nayrod64 · Mike might be little but he's mighty! Go Mike Go!!!!!!!!! · 104 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · What about Animal Kingdom? Don't give me that Aussie crap. He is an American horse being bought out for stud duty in Australia. · 104 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Little Mike has been one of the most impressive turf pace horses in sometime...Balto Star throwback. · 104 days ago ·

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zatt · Animal Kingdom, and Royal Delta for that matter, zxswordxz, are not running this weekend in Dubai ... Little Mike and Dullahan are. · 104 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · Getting a prep race in Dubai is going to be a big advantage for both horses, I think they have the best chance of the all the American horses to win on World Cup Day because of racing this weekend. · 104 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Keiran is a good jock to have up. He will give them their best chances to win the race. The horse has to show up then. Best of luck to them. I think Little mike certainly has the more difficult prep race. Hunter's Light is gonna be extremely tough to beat. · 104 days ago ·

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bigbill859 · hey animo998,travel vic, i wouldnt type so many comments but everytime i give a horse u guys make jokes. it wasnt no joke in santa anitas 7th race today when EXAMEN aired in the slop and beat the chalk. did u guys bet?? i know u were rooting against him but thats ok. i only like giving out 1 or 2 horses a week but u guys PUSH MY BUTTONS so i gave u a the best horse running today. i overcame coming off the turf but i was hoping it was on dirt because i knew he loved the dirt because i heard it from the horses mouth i knew his mother loved dirt she was 6 for 7 on dirt. did u guys know that? JUST BET WITH ME AND WIN · 104 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · BigBill, you have to say it once and then eveyone knows. Please, shut up. · 104 days ago ·

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amino998 · (bill continued)>> ...LL GET THE TRACK/BAD GUYS · 104 days ago ·

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Lisa111 · Now that was funny:) · 104 days ago ·

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kathrynr2 · I thought Kieran was from Oz...transferred to Dubai from Flemington to be a second to Dettori. Anyhow... my bet is on both candidates from Romans ! · 104 days ago ·

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ILuvTurfRacing · Strong front runners have done well in the past on Meydan's tapeta track. For that reason you'd have think Little Mike has a strong of chance of making the frame at a minimum. One of the race co-favorites, Saint Baudolino, being scratched from the race now only further improves Little Mike's chances. That said, I think Hunter's Light gonna take a world of beating here. He's 3 for 3 lifetime in stakes races on synthetic surfaces having won the listed Churchill Stakes on all-weather at Lingfield, G2 Anatolia Trophy on polytrack in Turkey, and G2 Al Maktoum Challenge Rd. 2 on tapeta last month at Meydan. He's also drawn perfectly in PP #5 of 14 for Saturday's race. · 104 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Fallon is born and raised in Ireland and rode for both ballydoyle and Prince Abdullah. · 104 days ago ·

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yukichan · Hard to go against African Story/Moonwalk in Paris. Will be hoping for a good run for Dullahan... · 102 days ago ·

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amino998 · Dullahan on his toes @ even money!?! http://amwestentertainment.com/dubai-racing/live-video/ · 102 days ago ·

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travel_vic · closers don't do well against European closers... · 102 days ago ·

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amino998 · African Story>>Nice call yukichan. · 102 days ago ·

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yukichan · Actually, whoever had Capital Attraction in the money had the nice call! Dullahan did not have a good break, which cost him decent position. But I am not sure he is in the same class as AF or MIP. I am expecting more from Little Mike though... · 102 days ago ·

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likin sparks · Nice prep for Dullahan, but he's gonna have to do much better. Choked bad down the stretch :( · 102 days ago ·

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amino998 · Little Mike has surprised me more than once but I'm still not convinced he fits with these. · 102 days ago ·

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yukichan · As I posted earlier: Hunter's Light, Monterrosso, Little Mike. For a nice long shot, Jamr. · 102 days ago ·

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bigbill859 · amino998 i like how you think little mike is up against it but you know domans · 102 days ago ·

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bigbill859 · little mike people is betting it all · 102 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Little Mike was my pick in the BCT. He is not my pick in Dubai. I hope he wins, but that's about it. · 102 days ago ·

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amino998 · Thanks bill. · 102 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Keiron the felon...what a crook and got away with it. Ever see the race he fixed. On the lead by about 10 just cantering and the field is gaining late. he looks back and does NOTHING to urge his horse and they get to him late while he just sat there. · 102 days ago ·

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amino998 · Like the "best turned out" awards given out in Dubai. · 102 days ago ·

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bigbill859 · Dullahan 11th · 102 days ago ·

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likin sparks · Jamr is my win pick · 102 days ago ·

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travel_vic · you can't stay out in front of European closers on their own course now that the surface favors them · 102 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · For the record, I thought Little Mike ran well today, but I believe he has a better chance on turf on World Cup night. · 102 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Agreed Brian. Senior moment: is this LM's first start back. Can't remember if so. · 102 days ago ·

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travel_vic · The pace was pitiful and he couldn't keep up with it past the 3/4's...THAT is doing well? man we have a different defintion of doing well, Could not have saved more ground and had NOTHING late. That is Well? · 102 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Horses on the lead need to slow it down to get away with it...the ride was competent, but the performance below par · 102 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Yes, Buckpasser ... first start since the BC. · 102 days ago ·

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bigbill859 · if Igugu get the lead not good · 102 days ago ·

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yukichan · If you watch the replay, LM had a few awkward moments when it looked like Kieran lost stirrups? · 102 days ago ·

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ILuvTurfRacing · I predicted Hunter's Light would take a world of beating in the AMC Rd. 3. He was drawn perfectly and got a great trip throughout. The eye catcher once again, IMO, was Kassiano. Breaking from the widest gate, PP #13, and he still manages to pass all but the winner to grab 2nd. At this point you have to think Hunter's Light & Kassiano both as legitimate threats to win this year's Dubai World Cup. · 102 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Thanks Brian. Thought so. Should improve off this effort. LM is a nice guy and should do better in his next start. · 102 days ago ·

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Lisa111 · Buckpasser, I just wanted to tell you that I always look for your posts. I really enjoy all of your horse racing knowledge and history. I appreciate all of your insight very much. · 102 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Thank you Lisa111. That is quite a compliment. I appreciate it very much. · 102 days ago ·

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peter.jones.5621149 · I wouldn't write off Dullahan. I think it will be an upset in the DWC. I wouldn't back Hunter's Light. The DWC is not won by favorites. Any European horse is dangerous - especially those who have run in Australia. · 101 days ago ·

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Mixed Emotions on the Point of Entry Decision

Should one of America's best horses stay, or should he go?Read More

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DanMunn1 · Disappointment from me. Whilst I feel he may have been hard pushed to be competitive in an Arc, I had heard rumours that he was destined to compete at Royal Ascot. An aim such as the Arlington Million is superb for US turf racing, but is that an easy goal when considering the options he is turning down? · 128 days ago ·

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kaitlinefree1 · i totally forgot about the Arc. i think it would be difficult for him though. i do like POE, but i'm not sure if he is as good as good as Cirrus, Gentildonna, & Orfevre. · 128 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · Glad I will get to see Point of Entry run again in the USA! · 128 days ago ·

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ARBY · Any fan who wishes the best from around the world should come to our Breeders Cup but want to keep their stars home can't have it both ways. If you truly want to be the best you must travel to where the best gather year in and year out. It's not just the good 'ol USA. · 128 days ago ·

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ldemgyhas · Owners are in this game to win. Smart owners stay home, pick their spots, and win. This is what they're doing with Point of Entry. Dumb owners who feel they have something to prove to go take on international company for no reason other than to boost their egos. I'm cheering for him, but I doubt Animal Kingdom will have much success in Dubai and England. Point of Entry, however, will be very successful staying here. · 128 days ago ·

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amino998 · If the ground is good in late September, who better to go to Paris representing American racing than the Phipps. And the by-then newly elected President of Austria can provide the impetus. · 128 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Where was this article when Frankel was running strictly in England, and anyone challenging that in the same manner you just challenged Point Of Entry was nothing less than a heretic. To add insult to injury the connections of Point Of Entry aren't making any claims of greatness, for this time period, or all time, as were the connections of Frankel. · 128 days ago ·

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footlick · How surprising. Another attack on Frankel. · 128 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Really? Can you think of another horse in the history of horse racing that this article is more appropriate for than Frankel? How surprising, no defense of an American turf horse. Oh yes, I forgot for a moment, I just did. · 127 days ago ·

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northport · Last I heard, Shug wasn't undergoing treatment for cancer, resulting in him being unable to travel to even local racetracks, let alone fly elsewhere, which was the case for Sir Henry Cecil. I think Point of Entry is a fantastic horse, but he hasn't done half of what Frankel did, so I am a little confused as to why you even bother bringing him up · 127 days ago ·

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northport · Based on POE's record alone, and the fact that he will stand in America as a turf sire, his value can't be compared to an undefeated Frankel when it comes to the risks involved with travelling. I am indifferent to him staying home, I think he will be more successful here anyway · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · The sad thing is that I was fine with their decision if that is what they wanted to do. Then the attack on Frankel. So typical. And so typical that those comments are the only ones liked, except for Arby's which I liked. It is just sad. · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · Point of Entry is a nice horse. There are many reasons why you don't ship a horse. But only Frankel will be criticized. · 127 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · What's cancer got to do with it? Frankel raced without Sir Henry Cecil before, and you well know it. Did Frankel stop racing? No! I used Frankel as a point of reference to defend Point Of Entry, who's been kicked around steadily ever since beating Animal Kingdom because he's absolutely, positively, the "most perfect" horse I can think of who fits the desciption of this article. What's the real problem? That he's an American turf horse and very good? let the likes of Cirrus des Aigles and Orfevre come to the Arlington Million and the Breeders’Cup as Point Of Entry's connections aren't making a secret of his where abouts. As has been said in the past of other horses, "they knew where to find him." · 127 days ago ·

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Age of Reason · Personally, I'm quite excited about seeing Point of Entry aiming for the Arlington Million and Breeders' Cup Turf. The Million always showcases an exciting international field, and I predict a very strong international contingent also in the BC Turf this year. For one, our international friends know at this point that they'll have to bring something better than a second-stringer if they want to run down Point of Entry and his American brethren. For the first time in a long time (too long if you're an American), the American turf horses fought back in 2012 at the Breeders' Cup (Wise Dan/Animal Kingdom, Little Mike/Point of Entry, Zagora/Marketing Mix), and to the Europeans it certainly might appear that the American turf horses are not quite as inferior as they thought. This can be a win-win for we the fans; on the one hand we can feel delighted that so many of our turf stars are capable of matching strides with their international counterparts, and also anticipate strong European fields to challenge them at the B.C. I wouldn't be surprised to see Camelot show up, for example. · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · Always the same thing. Euros have to come here. We are too afraid to send our horse there to run. always the same argument. They have to come here to race. Just sad that Frankel has to be attacked. Always the same. Euros have to ship half way across the world to run on our little turf courses because we can;t possible ship over there. We can't run our horses without meds. It was different when the DWC was on dirt and we had the superior dirt horses. Then everyone could ship to Dubai to run their turf horses against our dirt horses on dirt. Now that it is Tapeta, we aren't so eager. The work has to come to the US to prove themselves. Sorry, it goes both ways. Cirrus des Aigles and Orfevre's connections tell everyone where they are too. And Frankel only raced once, I believe, without Sir Henry. And the BC and Arc were never in their plans. Never. · 127 days ago ·

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northport · Sir Henry missed the Juddmonte International because he was undergoing treatments, I can hardly compare that to having Frankel race in the US without Cecil. If you were ill, and training the greatest horse you and possibly your country had ever seen, the highest valued horse in the world, whose days racing were numbered, you would be fine flying him to America (though it is known Frankel doesn't travel well by plane) to race in the US? As for you expecting CDA and Orfevre to come to America to prove themselves - the highest quality international turf horses will stay where the richest and highest quality turf fields are: England, France, Australia, Japan, and Dubai. I don't think that POE's owners care about the esteem of having an international turf horse, and considering the difference in US turf styles vs. the major turf racing nations, I think keeping POE at home is a good decision, as he can easily dominate in his field. Who is saying Animal Kingdom is the perfect horse? in 4 years of racing he has a single G1 win, and lots of excuses · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · if he is so good, icy, let him prove it without meds on the international scene. He is a nice horse. I like Shug and the Phipps. But demanding Euros come here all the time is lame and favors American horses. Whether you like it or not. · 127 days ago ·

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Age of Reason · Footlick, I hope you weren't referring to me with the "Euros have to come here" comment, because I clearly never said or meant it. If (and this is intended for everyone, including myself) we're going to defend European horses for staying put in their countries because of purse money and race prestige, we should at least be intellectually honest and give American turfers the same benefit of the doubt; thus, I think the assertion that we Americans are somehow "too afraid to send our horses there to run" a bit ludicrous; we're about to send off our strongest Dubai contingent possibly this century, with a Kentucky Derby winner and a Breeders' Cup Turf winner to go with a two-time BC Distaff winner and a Pacific Classic-winning poly-freak, so saying that American owners/trainers "aren't so eager" to take on international competitors on an international stage seems premature at best. Miss you on the BloodHorse Derby blogs, btw, Footy. · 127 days ago ·

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AmbitiousD · I am disappointed Point of Entry is not going overseas. Its not often that we (America) get to say we have a "world class" turf runner that has the talent and international credentials to become a top turf sire standing in the USA. I was hoping Point of Entry was going to become the new Gio Ponti. Now I will keep my fingers crossed that Little Mike stays healthy and goes back to Arlington to defend his crown. · 127 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · footlick, I didn't write this article, which is about POE not aspiring to greatness. All I did was use the best point of reference I could think of. A horse to which I believe this article pertains more to than the American horse who is being questioned. As I stated the connections of POE never made any claims of greatness. The connections of Frankel made every claim of greatness possible, and then followed the path of least resistance. Please don't tell me again about European superiority, as in 2012 they came, they saw, and they were conquered. Quite easily I might add. When our American horses prevailed breaking or coming close to world record times were there cries of greatness across this website? No, just excuses piled upon excuses as to how their really not that good and the track was fast. Well that may be, but they all ran on the same surface, just as in Europe. Unlike many here in America, I'm not ashamed that I live in the greatest country ever to emerge on this planet. For those of you don't live here, but consistently run us down, remember that we provide the umbrella of freedom under which you live and use to insult us. northport, If you want to talk horse racing that's fine, if you want to have a discussion on cancer, it won't be with me. Goodnight · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · Age of Reason- It is all well and good to say that we should defend horses to stay here, but our horses always stay here and it is the majority of people who feel a European horse has not proven itself unless it wins a BC race. Europeans send horses here all the time, to run on what they consider bullrings. The turns are too tight and the stretches are too short, but they do win many of the races that they ship here and they have hugely supported our Breeders Cup. We have not returned the favor, and by the attitudes of many, we never will and it is looked upon as fine. We have only shipped to Dubai, more so when it was on dirt as we dominate on dirt. I am always happy when American horses run well. Shug and the Phipps are very special to me. But, the horse did originally have Dubai in the plans. Then they decided to not go after all. And I am fine with that. But it seems to be ok to attack Frankel for not running in races that were never in the plans. They were never going to ship to the BC and they were never going to run him in the Arc. I defended Zenyatta when she stayed in California and everyone else demanded she ship and run a whole season against males. I defended Zarkava when she never shipped outside of France. My problem with American thinking is tht Euros always have to come here and run on our terms and we do not ever reciprocate. But, sadly, I seem to be viewed as being inappropriate because I think that reciprocation is fair. Anyway, it is just not worth it. · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · Age of Reason- I comment sometimes there, but picking a Derby horse in February is a bit premature. · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · Whoever removed the comment, just so you know it was not necessary. I considered the source, and as the source means nothing to me, neither does the comment. · 127 days ago ·

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jay s. · I, for one, am glad he's staying here. I have made the flight to that part of the world several times, including Dubai. It's not easy. Plus, I've spent about two years living in tents in SW Asia, and it's just different over there. The constant airborne dust, bi-weekly sand storms, the heat, sights, sounds, smells, adjustments to circadian rhythms, etc. Dubai is a great city, but the trip is hard. Wish AK and Little Mike were staying as well. · 127 days ago ·

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footlick · AoR- should have been I sometimes still comment there. Just every one in awhile. · 127 days ago ·

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dani.pugh · I think Point of Entry will show us this year he is one of the best American Turf routers in our country's history. Do I think he could ship and do well internationally? Yes. He handles any track firm to heavy, and now apparently any distance. There are not many horses who can boast grade ones at 9f and 12f. However, he is not going overseas, so we won't know. The only time we may find out is if some of the top Euro's should ship here. Not saying they have too, but they did send some of their best last year in Cityscape, Excelebration, St. Nicholas Abby, Shareta. They could come over again, giving POE a chance to prove himself again. Has accomplished what Frankel has? No, however, this is not a horse that has accomplished nothing. Remember he has won four of his last five grade ones, and the one lost, was a near miss after a horible trip. Has he done what Frankel has? No. But don't diminish what he has done. He is a different horse that excels at a different distance. · 127 days ago ·

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travel_vic · QUOTE: I think Point of Entry will show us this year he is one of the best American Turf routers in our country's history COME ON!! Round Table, Fort Marcy, Cougar II, John Henry, Dahlia, Manila, Theatrical, Steinlen, Sky Classic NO historical perspective · 127 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · quote "I think". I never said he will. He has the potential to be and is already one of the most dominant in the country. He has the potential. That is what "I think" means. · 127 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · THINK: Have a particular opinion, belief, or idea about someone or something: "she thought that nothing would be the same again". · 127 days ago ·

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Buckpasser · Personally I think POE staying here has a great deal to do with Frank Stronach buying 100% of his breeding rights and 50% of his racing rights so I think he has had a good deal of influence here. The Phipps have raced horses in Dubai before so I think they would have sent him if it was their decision alone. Personally I am glad he is here. I would like to see him in the Million and other races before retirement. The Arc may be a possibility. After all Buckpasser was scheduled to go there. · 127 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · I have no problem with this. He will most likely run the same campaign as last year , but maybe squeeze in the Milliion at Arlington. · 127 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Orfevre in the Sheema Classic?...nope. But Gentildonna is and that Filly is not getting beat by anyone :) · 127 days ago ·

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kyle.stasierowski · If Point of Entry did go to Dubai, my personal opinion is that could possibly his last race of 2013 simply because of the fact that with the travel and everything it knocks a horse out usually for the rest of the year. So if he stays here in states and goes to the Arlington Million he might then be able to go to the Breeders' Cup in November. · 126 days ago ·

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kyle.stasierowski · If Point of Entry did go to Dubai, my personal opinion is that could possibly his last race of 2013 simply because of the fact that with the travel and everything it knocks a horse out usually for the rest of the year. So if he stays here in the states and goes to the Arlington Million he might then be able to go to the Breeders' Cup in November. · 126 days ago ·

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kay.robinett · I have mixed emotions on this as well. I feel that Point of Entry would NOT embarrass himself in even the biggest turf races overseas. Note that I am not saying he would win all or even some of them. I am just saying he would hold his own in them. That said, I am glad we will get to see him run here in the US simply because I think he's a very good horse and it will be a joy to watch him this season. As for individual horses (such as Zenyatta or Frankel) shipping or not shipping - I believe that there is a lot that goes on in the background that we fans are simply not privy to. Some horses ship better than others. As fans we will rarely know which ones - or which ones have some minor medical issues, or the like which might prevent them from being shipped. Heck, for all we know there might even be owners or trainers with medical problems which prevent lots of travel, or even (gasp) fears of flying in the human connections. I will not condemn connections for making travel or non-travel plans because I do not know what is going on in the background with the horse or human connections that impact the decision making. · 126 days ago ·

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forego139 · What mixed emotions, the Mighty Frankle never traveled out of his comfort zone and has been declared the Worlds Best, but why is it in America we don't respect our gifted ones unless they travel overseas to run in race's such as the Arc and so forth, where as in other countries they idolize there gifted runners and tout them not put them down for one reason or another. Point Of Entry won 4 G1 last year and that here in the states is still not enough to garner respect by the so called American Racing Fans, instead we find ways to put them down for doing enough. But the real question is what is enough to statisfy Americans so as not to be so negative year after year about our American talent such as Point Of Entry. Makes one wonder doesn't it Hmmmm......... · 125 days ago ·

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ILuvTurfRacing · Certainly you can understand Shug McGaughey aiming Point of Entry for the Arlington Million and ultimately another crack at the BC Turf. But the Million is mid to late August and the BC Turf early November. So you're talking about skipping the Dubai World Cup and/or Sheema Classic in late March because it may interfere with targets in mid-August and early November? That's exactly why American horses aren't winning the Dubai World Cup, Sheema Classic, or Duty Free these days. The connections of the best possible horses that we could send never do so. There's not a doubt in my mind that Wise Dan would be a major player in the Dubai World Cup and would likely run rough shod over a Dubai Duty Free field if they chose to go that route. The same for Point of Entry. I have no doubt he'd be a major player in the Dubai World Cup or the Sheema Classic. No disrespect intended to Royal Delta when I said we don't send the best possible horses. But historically, American horses who run exclusively on conventional dirt just haven't fared that well on Meydan's tapeta surface. I actually wonder if Animal Kingdom might not also be better suited for the Dubai Duty Free on turf at 9f instead of the Dubai World Cup on tapeta at 10f? · 125 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · On The Gallop/ northport/ I understand the full picture better than you may think. America is a nation where dirt racing is the main focus, the rest of the world uses turf.Natually the better turf horse should appear in the rest of the world. It's really not that hard to grasp. What I was pointing out in my first comment is the double standard in play in saying POE should ship, while when Frankel was criticised for not crossing the English Channel there was an uproar on this site. Another thing I didn't bring up was that Zenyatta another horse who was a notoriously bad shipper was constantly criticized for not traveling. However people didn't make allowance for the fact she shipped 2,000 miles to Kentucky and put on a fantastic performance. What I really would like an answer to, from anyone, is how a horse can be acclaimed the greatest of all time and not run in even one of the greatest races of all time. For European's that would be the Arc. My god, Ribot won it twice, once as a 3yo and then again as a 4yo, was never challenged in any race, and this horse Frankel, who is certainly among the greats but needed the Arc to challenge for the title he was literally given, is placed above him. Not to even mention Time Form's devaluation of prior horses to elevate him, such as Dancing Brave to mention just one, and I'm biased??? · 124 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · Fantastic point icy... · 124 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Icy- Why did Frankel have to ship to France?. He was running 8f until almost the end of the summer. Frances op 10f race the Prix Ganay is run in the start of the summer. They don't have many GR1 10f races. So he is to skip the Juddmonte for the Prix dollar, and historically the Juddmonte(Aka Benson& Hedges) is a better race over the last 40 years. Just to let you know the Top GR1 middle distance races in europe (classics aside) are the Eclipse Stakes, King george/Queen E II, The Arc, and the Champions stakes. 3-4 are in England. Again why did Frankel have to ship when the Champions stakes is just as important to some as the Arc is. His beating two top shelf 12f horses in the Champions stakes was not enough?. you compare Zenyatta to Frankel as far as shipping...16-17 of her wins came at southern California tracks..vs WHO exactly?. England hosts the Top meets which is why he had no reason to ship. Winning the Arc does not define a horse as the greatest ever( I am certainly not calling Frankel the greatest ever). Plus Time form is not who changed Dancing Braves ratingthe World Thoroughbred Rankings conference that this was done, which I may add was done by representatives from all the Top racing nations so there is no BIAS. Timeform has Dancing Brave 7 pounds behind Frankel, with Seabird, Tudor Minstrel, Mill Reef etc ahead of DB. · 120 days ago ·

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shadowno · London to Paris is about 250 miles or a 40 minute plane ride. Little farther than Aqueduct to Saratoga just to put the shipping distance in perspective, not saying the animal had to or should have shipped.. · 119 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Frankel was stabled in Newmarket, which is 540 Km(6 hours) from Paris. Aqueduct to saratoga is 300+ KM (3.5-4hrs) all driving figures. · 118 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · They would fly out of Mancehster Airport to Paris which is 1.5 hours. · 118 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Let's just say that a flight from Kentucky to Manchester is 5 hours, how long is a flight from Kentucky to California?. So for example if Wise Dan, or POE fly from the east to go to The Breeders cup, why not in turn fly east over the pond to run at Ascot outside of london?. To face better competition in your discipline/Division/Distance...etc. Now I don't think a horse needs to ship anywhere if they have top flight racing within in their own country. · 118 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · A good example of a horse that SHOULD ship is Game On Dude out west is beyond sub par for GR1 level. If he goes east and ran in a Whitney, Stephen Foster, or JCGC wouldn't that be a better fit for him, instead of staying in only California and winning Graded stakes vs no one. When better horses fly in they beat him. Ron The greek, Dullahan, Fort Larned etc. · 118 days ago ·

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shadowno · So Newmarket to Paris 335 miles. Not much of a trip if you have a shipper who is not unraveled by travel. Get em up. Put on the wraps. Put in van, short ride to plane. short flight to France. Done before lunch. Happens with some regularity for the more prestigous races no doubt. Louisville to LA 2085 miles. · 117 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Since Game On Dude hasn't been proclaimed, "the best horse of all time," as that honor belongs to another recently retired horse in 2012, has nothing to prove, why shouldn't his connections do the smart thing, which is exactly what their doing, and keep him in California. While it's true he can't compete effectively with the top six horses in N/A as of the end of 2012, being the 7th best horse in N/A isn't a bad thing. In point of fact I believe many people in the business would like to have a horse as good as Game On Dude. As for my opinions on horses and horse racing, just to clear up any misconceptions. In my entire life there hasn't been one horse I've hated, or disliked on a personal level. That long explanation may seem redundant, but this is HRN and if one doesn't cross the Ts and dot the i,s it will be misconstrued or twisted. For instance a response like, "I remember you didn't like so and so in this race, would be typical."(for any person to hate a horse, an animal which as far as I'm concerned only bring joy into ones life, is beyond my comprehension) I don't see how attacking the position given to a horse on a historical basis can be construed as personal, as in "Another attack on Frankel." The Irony is that everyone who attacked my comment says exactly the same thing as I do.That although he's one of the greatest horses ever, he's not the greatest. Why did Frankel have to run in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe? because up to that point in time he hadn't gone the classic European distance of 12 furlongs and he only had one race left before he would be retired according to his connections. Beating horses at 10 furlongs, who have won at 12 furlongs, is not the same as Frankel actually winning at 12 furlongs, and you well know it! Who proclaimed Frankel the greatest horse of all time? here's a partial list, his trainer Sir Henry Cecil, the racing manager to Prince Khalid Abdulla, Teddy Grimthorpe. Writing a few days after the race, Marcus Armytage said: "Forget ratings, handicappers’ assessments or any other method by which you measure one racehorse against another, it is unlikely that the world in either this or any previous generation has ever seen a better racehorse than Frankel... What makes him unique is his ability to go a top class sprinter’s pace over distance... he is a lightning strike of genetics which may not be repeated for 100 years.".www.telegraph.co.uk › Sport › Horse Racing. Also Simon Rowlands at Timeform. While Frankel did do everything his trainer asked of him, and enough to be ranked among the greatest horses of all time, he didn't do enough to be accorded the status of "the greatest of all time" and that is exactly my point of contention. If you went to Europe, which I'vedone on many occasions, and mentioned a horse who had proven them self at 10 furlongs, was undefeated to boot, as the greatest of all time you'd be a laughing stock. My personal opinion of Frankel is that he can and should be mentioned with the greatest horses of all time, He just can't be put at the #1 spot because he never ran the 12 furlongs required. Extra distance can't just be assumed and given, it must be done on the track. Frankel is a magnificent horse who IMO had the potential to achieve the status of #1 accorded him, but came up 2 furlongs short. · 117 days ago ·

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shadowno · IHB hit the Game on Dude issue spot on. He is getting a bit long in the tooth and more to the point is a gelding so winning the Whitney or any other eastern race is of little long term signiigance. Much wiser to run a Big Cap, Californian, HGC, Pacific Classic campaign leading into the BCC than amass frequent flyer miles. Add to the fact while obviously a top 10 handicap horse, he is not a "name" that will bring people out to any major track. It is a no-brainer to keep doing exactly what his connections have been doing. · 117 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Shadowno- I guess you missed the part where I said 3-4 top races are in england and one in France. The Champions stakes is an Extremely important race and skipping the ARC for the Champions stakes is not a step down quality wise. · 106 days ago ·

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Point of Entry won't travel to Dubai

Despite turning in a huge effort to defeat Animal Kingdom in Saturday’s Grade 1 Gulfstream Park Turf Handicap, Point of Entry will not be heading to Dubai for the $5 million Sheema Classic on March 30. Read More

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Animal Kingdom & Point of Entry: The Showdown

Are you ready for the Showdown in the Sunshine State???Read More

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AndyScoggin · Thanks for posting the video, too. I think most people will be dismissing Point of Entry in this match-up, but not me. · 135 days ago ·

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ashley.tamulonis · I'm not dismissing Point of Entry, but I think he'll need a bit more room to run than the 9F test will give him. Additionally, every time I have dismissed Animal Kingdom, I have been made to eat crow. Lesson learned. · 135 days ago ·

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travel_vic · As widely divergent at turf trips go, these two could easily trade trips to the winner's circle on nothing other than LUCK. · 135 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · On paper Animal Kingdom should have the advantage at the distance but I think Point of Entry has a big chance to win. Shug McGaughey always has his horses ready to run. By the way I like the Electric Light Orchestra reference. · 135 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · Point Of Entry for the Win. I love this Dynaformer Colt and he Should be in tough against the uber talented Animal Kingdom. I wish this race was 10f not 9f. But as it is..POE and AK in the lane and it will be close!. · 135 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · As for Dubai, if POE goes he is in my Tri with Gentildonna, and Cirrus Des Aigles. · 135 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · I think POE should take the same route as AK and go To Royal Ascot after a break from Dubai to run the Hardwicke stakes at 12f, or the Prince of Wales's stakes at 10f (AK is nominated). I would love to see him run over a course with more space and more sweeping turns which would keep him out of traffic, and Show the Euro's some of that Talent we know he is loaded with. Then shut him down till Saratoga for a late summer fall campaign leading to the Breeders Cup. I HOPE at least. · 135 days ago ·

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Capper · I give the nod to POE. I think he'll get the jump on AK & with his final quarter mile fractions, will be very tough to run down. · 135 days ago ·

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Dressage3295 · Animal Kingdom's the winner for me. I have never bet against him and I never will · 135 days ago ·

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rafirox · My money will go on Animal Kingdom. Point of Entry's prime distance is twelve furlongs. He needs a longer distance, I doubt he will fire like he normally does at this short distance. On the other hand, Animal Kingdom should love this distance. Last out he showed tremendous turn of foot, and closed with a dramatic rush at a MILE. My money goes on Animal Kingdom. · 134 days ago ·

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illhaveanothertriplecrown · Animal Kingdom will take this. POE will not place first or 2nd. · 134 days ago ·

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TampaBayDowns Fan · Supported AK from the begining (After the Derby, of course) and through the BCMile (Like I wrote about) so my money would be on him. That is, if I were old enough to bet. · 133 days ago ·

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jay s. · WOW, TBDF. Not old enough to wager? Funny how I assume most folks on here are from 35-65. I thought both you and cocoa2 were as well, but sounds like you both are close to the same age. It's nice and refreshing to see a couple of younger folks with a love for the sport. It's even more nice and refreshing that there are at least two teenagers that doesn't have their face glued to a cell phone, completely missing life in real time. · 133 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Showdown in the Sunshine State ... Point of Entry gets post 2 and Animal Kingdom draws post 6, in a six-horse Gulfstream Park Turf Handicap, that also includes Unbridled Command. · 133 days ago ·

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Averie Elizabeth · I'm also too young to bet. I'm just in it for the horses. Best sport on the planet to fall in love with, and I'm sure glad I did. · 133 days ago ·

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Dressage3295 · Excellent post for Animal Kingdom! Love it when he draws the outside · 133 days ago ·

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TampaBayDowns Fan · Yep, its the right race for AK for sure! But I always have somebody else place a bet for me every now and then...*cough every race cough that I go to cough* · 133 days ago ·

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Dressage3295 · Did the same when I was a kid! I would dig up what I had of my money and beg my dad to put in a bet for me :) · 133 days ago ·

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rafirox · Same with TBDF, Dressage. My pop (or uncle, whichever one) would place bets for me whenever we went to the track (about once a month or so). My dad (again, or uncle), would place any bet I wanted, and they payed for it. But, they would never let me bet over about $10. · 133 days ago ·

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TampaBayDowns Fan · A big bet for my familiy is $10!!! It's a shock if I go over $5 on a MCL! · 133 days ago ·

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rafirox · Very common, TBDF. I bet like that (more on the conservative edge) until I was about, I don't know, 28 or 29. It took me a while to gain the confidence to put big stacks on the line. Betting is the second reason I enjoy horse racing, the HORSES are the reason I enjoy the sport, handicapping/wagering is just for MORE fun. · 133 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · Interesting to see Rosario riding Animal Kingdom, but he is a good rider and should fit the horse well. I am going to wait to see the odds, but might try to beat both Animal Kingdom and Point of Entry with Unbridled Command. · 132 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · Lets see how many trick in that bad Johnny V have to out maneuver AK and Rosario. AK should win this but I'm not counting out POE single my main man will be the pilot. · 132 days ago ·

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jay s. · As great as Johnny V. is, I believe Rosario + AK beat Velasquez + Point of Entry. · 132 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · I Don't doubt your assessment jay but I won't bet against Johnny V. · 132 days ago ·

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jay s. · zsswordxz, I respect that line of thinking, for sure. · 132 days ago ·

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jay s. · Anyone know the post time for the Donn? · 131 days ago ·

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Sully · Animal Kingdom; Unbridled Command, Point of Entry; Salto · 131 days ago ·

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jinlie01 · I don't think Unbridled Command will be 15-1...if he is at least 8-1...I'll bet on him · 131 days ago ·

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yukichan · I love Animal Kingdom as much as Miss Mary loves Royal Delta...he is my choice, pure blind love and loyalty. We saw how he was rolling at a mile, the 1 1/8th ought to do him well. That and a good trip from post 6... · 130 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · yuckichan, Tough decision as I do not want AK to lose, and I went back n forth for hours. Maybe it should have been obvious to choose the other way, with AK on top. Point Of Entry, curious to see how /if he speeds up earlier, stays closer earlier; Animal Kingdom, Unbridled Command, Film Making. Huge race. Hope it's as great as anticipated and that all here get to watch. · 130 days ago ·

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ILuvTurfRacing · Not sure why Joel Rosario felt the need to make that pre-mature move with Animal Kingdom and get him involved in an early speed duel with Salto? But when it came to the business end, it looked like Point of Entry just simply had the more potent turn of foot on the day, IMO. · 130 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · ILuvTurfRacing, just to be sure I understand you right, are you saying that you believe the premature move had little effect on the outcome? This isn't a trick question, as I've only gotten deeply into turf the past year, I just wanted to know if I'm getting this the right way. Thanks · 129 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · It amaze me how many people think AK could not win the race. I love AK and I think Johnny V as his pilot could have make a difference in the outcome or if Joel would have a bit more patient but I really don't blame Joel, it is first time on AK and I really don't think he knows AK strength and weakness like Johnny does. · 129 days ago ·

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Team America: Dubai World Cup Nominations

2013 has a strong team of Americans leaving the comfort of home for glory in distant lands. Lets take a look at some of the early nominations to this year's Carnival.Read More

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Mary Z. · Guess who my Dubai World Cup pick is. · 140 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · Hint: She's in the photo. · 140 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · This is looking like America's best representation in Dubai since the days of dirt ... I would love to see Royal Delta run big! · 140 days ago ·

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Dressage3295 · This is America's best chance to win the Dubai World Cup. Looking at Dullahan and AK to place first and second if Dullahan does well with his prep · 140 days ago ·

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ARBY · It will come down to who responds best those that ship in or those that prep over the surface and get their prep time in Dubai. While a U.S. sweeep is unlikely in the DWC our chances look outsanding for a very good showing. · 140 days ago ·

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yukichan · He asks...Jim Rome ‏@jimrome Should we send Mizdirection to Dubai? http://www.horseracingnation.com/blogs/furlong/Team_America_Dubai_World_Cup_Carnival_Nominations_123# … · 140 days ago ·

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illhaveanothertriplecrown · This looks like a good squad. I hope to see Dullahan have a successful 4 yr old run. · 140 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · No Wise Dan? · 140 days ago ·

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northport · I agree, this is the best American line up we have had since the switch to Tapeta. I am especially happy to see some of our best getting a prep in Dubai beforehand, let's hope that proves successful! · 140 days ago ·

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northport · And no, wise dan will be bypassing the DWC · 140 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · Since the switch to Tapeta the international fields are a lot stronger than ever before. The American horses will have to run their best to have a shot at winning. Since these horses are among the best in the United States it will be a good indication as to how good the American horse are compared to the rest of the world. It looks like a big advantage to have a race over the track, this should help Dullahan and Little Mike. · 140 days ago ·

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Peppermint Paddy · Who ever wins, they all can all thank Orfevre for advancing their placing. · 140 days ago ·

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yukichan · Fly Down also nominated to World Cup... · 140 days ago ·

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On The Gallop's · This year the American Trainers MUST ship to Dubai much earlier then last year!. Get a prep race over the course also. · 140 days ago ·

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rafirox · Very shocked to see Drill nominated for the World Cup. I think America has a decent chance to do well this year. · 140 days ago ·

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kaitlinefree1 · Igugu is my pick for the Dubai World Cup. Gentildonna is my pick for the Sheema. · 140 days ago ·

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travel_vic · All horses in a race are not there to WIN, some are strictly to affect the pace. · 140 days ago ·

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Peppermint Paddy · Drill in the DWC, yeah lil odd ... he has ran his best races on syn, so perhaps not the DWC, but the sprint? · 140 days ago ·

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TampaBayDowns Fan · I don't know, I still think AK is a force to be reckoned with... · 139 days ago ·

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footlick · I do like that both Dullahan and Little Mike have a prep in Dubai planned. · 139 days ago ·

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RichardGross · As someone who has seen the DWC since 2007, covered the Carnival as a journalist since 2009 and the World Cup since that year as well, I find a lot of the comments amusing. What wins (in order): 1. Experience in Dubai + Early shipping (Curlin, 2008); 2. Learning from experience in Dubai (Well Armed, 2009, Glorea de Campeao, 2010 and Monterosso, 2012 - Royal Delta 2013?); and 3. Shipping early - in the absence of experience in Dubai (Royal Delta), this is #1 for the American contingent and most connections still don't get it. It's a different place - forget the surface for a moment - and the horses know it: from the climate to the grooms, to the crowd. It's Derby Day, 6,000 miles away from home. · 139 days ago ·

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BridgetLind · Not so, Richard Gross! · 139 days ago ·

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travel_vic · I always love grandstanders. They tell people who work in the game all about the game from their positions high up on the grandstand or more likely behind a lap top screen never actually having been anywhere in the racing game. · 139 days ago ·

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footlick · Just to comment on Richard Gross's statement above, prior experience did not help Gio Ponti win and I am not sure Royal Delta is any better on that surface than he was. I don't discount her, but I'll reserve judgement until later. Since you have been there you can add your insights, but I feel the Tapeta course changes quite a bit from how it plays in workouts to how it plays during races. I think that really is a disadvantage to horses who have not had a recent race there. Thanks for your observations! I do agree with you. · 139 days ago ·

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travel_vic · A buddy, normally a bookie at Doncaster, goes yearly and sends me a program (in both English and Arabic) and I will contact him for his ideas on the pecking order....The Racing Post generally sends him down for the entire thing. · 139 days ago ·

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RichardGross · My point: It's settling in after the travel and the place more than the surface. By the time Curlin won in a hand ride (yes, on real dirt), he felt like it was home. having been there since late January (and winning the Jaguar for practice). Well Armed (third in that race) wins the next year on a less-than-perfect day with an amazing trip and a first-time DWC rider. Hey, guess where Gloria de Campeao finished? Neither he nor Lizard's Desire returned in 2011 when the Japanese take win and place. But show? Why do I think this is so obvious? Because it is. · 139 days ago ·

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illhaveanothertriplecrown · I like sitting in the grandstands, but i wont preach on my expertise just my opinion. · 139 days ago ·

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