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2012 Hopeful Stakes (G2)

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Date/Track:
9/3/2012, Saratoga Race Course
Post Time:
4:52 PM ET
Distance:
7 f (Dirt)
Age/Sex:
2 M
Time:
1:22.72

What the Nation is saying about the 2012 Hopeful Stakes (G2)...

Besides being juvenile graded stakes winners they are similarly bred. How far will they want to run?Read More
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  • CreativeCause · haha!! so true seattleslewgal345! · 247 days ago ·
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  • JohnNicoletti1 · Bobby is s a real nice colt, who will do well at the shorter routes. · 71 days ago ·
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Laura Pugh of Dead Heat Debates give you her Pre-Breeders Cup Eclipse Awards Picks!Read More
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  • dani.pugh · icy, polls say different. His ablity to run over multiple surfaces and his dominance has people calling him the best older male in training. That is not just me. Things can change. Before Rachel the last to win HOTY as a 3yr old filly were Twilight Tear and Busher, both fillies not only beat males but did it at the "classic" distance. Rachel never beat males at the Classic distance as you pointed out, so obviously wins at that distance are not required when one shows other qualityies that seperate them from the rest. Dan has his dominance and ability to win over any surface. So far that is proving enough for voters. You also say distance is valued...you surely can't mean America. Not when we constantly shorten the distance of our races. The JCGC that used to be 2 miles is now 10f, both Whitney and Woodward used to be 10f, now only 9f. The Met mile one of the most prestigious races in our country is only a mile. Distance is not celebrated as much in the USA as much as you make it out to be. Speed dominates, and Wise Dan has plenty of it and has used it to assert the dominance that ranks him so high on many lists. · 221 days ago ·
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  • icyhotboo · It's true the older horses have taken turns beating each other but IMO this is a very good group. I've watched and enjoyed Wise Dan and his quick turn of foot. IMO he's the best older male we've had in quite a while and the best of this group because of his consistency and versatility. His trainer isn't taking any chances shipping him and running him on a dirt suface on which he's never run knowing he'll be running at least two more years so he's sticking to turf and playing it safe. Being a gelding HOTY award doesn't mean much to them as they've stated. Dani, you make it seem as though I'm on a personal vendetta, I'm not. I've simply stated factually the way things have been. Also I nor you mentioned Rachel the lone exception in my life time Dominated the Champion Three-Year-Old Male Champion Summer Bird and there were no good older males that year by consensus at HRN comments. That is not the case this year. I however believe her Woodward in which she was never given a breather and five of the six horses running took there best shot at a time in the race best for them was a classic in itself. As for distance I realize times have changed and I've stated numerous times the classic distance has been figuatively reduced to 1 1/8 mile but I don't make the rules so I can only state the way things are. If you want to change the rules you have to talk to people higher up on the totem pole than I am. You flatter me with your attention but I've had enough on this matter until after the BC. · 220 days ago ·
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The Champagne winner was one of two very impressive horses that punched their tickets to the BC Juvenile last weekend. Read More
  • BrianZipse · The 2-year-old that impressed me the most at Keeneland was not Joha, but rather Balance the Books on the following day. · 225 days ago ·
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  • AndyScoggin · The Juvenile Turf, Sprint, Dirt options do make it hard to know where are these nice horses will run. No doubt several be pre-entered into more than one race, too. · 225 days ago ·
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So far who's in and what key Graded Stakes Races are left? Let's find out ...Read More
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  • illhaveanothertriplecrown · I think he is that good, I am sentimental and a fan of his connections but at this point he looks great. · 250 days ago ·
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  • seattleslewgal345 · Floridaf, I too think he is that good. To me, he comes off as one of those who will improve and get better. Forget about Know more's connections, and just focus on the colt and what he has shown us so far. And no, I am not going to jump on the Shanghai Bobby bandwagon. Forget about that, it's not happening. he may be undefeated, but give him factors. Give him problems. Make him go the distance, and make him run into troubles, and then lets see how he comes out of it. · 249 days ago ·
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Take one last look at Saratoga and Del Mar from Eclipse Sportswire!Read More
Another great Saratoga meeting has ended and for Matt Shifman, this one proved to be his favorite...Read More
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  • AndyScoggin · I love the two year-olds. I got to see Dreaming of Julia, Kauai Katie, and My Happy Face win, so that was special. I think Archwarrior and Sign will make some noise down the road. My Miss Aurelia was superb, too! · 262 days ago ·
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  • Capper · Brian, I thought you'd go with your boy Steamin' Willie Beamin as your horse of the meet. He's not the fast 3yo in his barn, I'd give Alpha the nod. 2 time G1 winner at the meet & part of only "official" dead heat in Travers history. · 262 days ago ·
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Good job Fortify! Great things on the way for this horse.
The Hopeful should be interesting ... leaning to Fortify, but several in here could be runners.
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Todd Pletcher is looking to cap an extraordinary Saratoga meet when he sends out a trio of talented 2-year-olds in Monday’s Grade 2 Three Chimneys Hopeful.Read More
Looks to be like it's just Bobby vs Bern. Can't wait to see who wins! But, they are 2 yo... one of the others can peak that day, just depends.
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  • Jmac500 · The distance will be a factor. · 267 days ago ·
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  • rafirox · Not a hater, but I doubt Bern can win. My pick isn't determined yet, but I know Bern will have major problems running seven. As Jmac said, distance is the factor. Bobby has a chance. I haven't looked into it much, but I might play Overanalyze because it's Johnny's horse..... · 267 days ago ·
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Looks like a stacked race! Bern Identity and Shanghai Bobby will be pushed immensely. Fortify will shine in this one and win.
Palace Malice, a son of 2007 Horse of the Year Curlin, will not run in the Grade 2, $300,000 Three Chimneys Hopeful Stakes on Monday because of a pronounced bucked shin.Read More
Looks like a packed Hopeful! I'm so excited!
Monday morning, Darley Stable’s impressive homebred Fortify continued preparations for the Grade 2, $300,000 Three Chimneys Hopeful on closing day, Monday, September 3.Read More
Palace Malice became the first North American winner sired by multiple Horse of the Year Curlin with a dominant 3-½ length maiden score Saturday at Saratoga Race Course. The Dogwood Stable color-bearer will now be pointed for the Grade 2, $300,000 Three Chimneys Hopeful on Monday, September 3.Read More
It was only a matter of minutes after Fortify had broken his maiden on Saturday at Saratoga Race Course that his trainer, Kiaran McLaughlin, stamped him as a contender for the Grade 2, $300,000 Three Chimneys Hopeful, the featured race on closing day.Read More

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