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2011 Forego

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Date/Track:

1/29/2011, Turfway Park

Post Time:

5:05 PM ET

Distance:

6 1/2 f (Synthetic)

Age/Sex:

4+ M

Time:

1:18.79

*Rank is current Power Ranking among all active horses, based on highest HRN rating. Rating is based on HRN member voting.

Fin

Silks

Horse / Sire

Rating

Trainer / Jockey

Last Start / Next Start

1st

Tend
Dynaformer

4.19

A. Scott
M. Cruz

8th, CD AlwOC (5/2/2012-R9)

2nd

Cool Bullet
Red Bullet

6.39

S. Margolis
S. Bridgmohan

7th, FG AlwOC (1/25/2012-R8)

3rd

Bee Line's Edge
Syncline

3.23

D. Hughes
G. Kuntzweiler

3rd, 2011 Forego

4th

Grand Daddy
Johannesburg

3.39

T. Drury
B. Hernandez,

2nd, CD Claim (11/12/2011-R7)

5th

Parioli's Trick
Favorite Trick

3.39

C. Lopresti
G. Kuntzweiler

4th, CD Claim (6/10/2011-R8)

6th

Harlan Street
Street Cry

3.89

A. Skinner
F. Arguello

5th, 2011 Don Bernhardt

7th

Diferentkindagreat
Canadian Frontier

4.73

A. Scott
A. Tamburello

7th, 2011 Forego

8th

Silver Summation
Closing Argument

3.23

M. Puype
A. Quinonez

2nd, 2012 Cool Frenchy (LS)

9th

Baba Booey
Crafty Shaw

J. Lopez
J. Vargas

9th, 2011 Forego

10th

Golden Country
Menifee

4.39

T. Bergin
F. Lenclud

2nd, CD AlwOC (11/16/2011-R9)

11th

Disco Troop
Songandaprayer

D. Delete
G. Saez

12th, Kee Allow (4/18/2012-R8)

12th

Get Rich Quick
Seeking the Gold

5.23

D. Carvalho
N. DeSouza

12th, 2011 Forego

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Eclipse Awards Discussion: A Sprint To The Crown

Hoosier State of Mind teams up with the "Chicago Dark Horse," Chris Sorenson to discuss which horse should be given the Eclipse Award in the two sprint divisions.Read More

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AmbitiousD · I know I've asked before, but any thoughts for Regally Ready? His resume also has a Breeder's Cup win (be it a G2) and high class G1 in the Nearctic; plus 4 other graded stakes wins this year. · 169 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · Turbulent Descent will win the award, although Musical Romance may deserve it more, plus she is Zipse's monster BC winner! I think Caleb's Posse deserves the 3YO title and Amazombie the Sprint Award. · 169 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Caleb wins the sprinter for me. Two grade ones, one against open company, and a grade two. And as mentioned he is unbeaten at one turn. I like Hilda's Passion for the female sprinter. She ran in graded stakes all year and only once ran a bad race. She won two grade twos, a grade three and a grade one. I know she didn't make the Breeders Cup, and that is sad, but in sprints she did more that Turbulent Decent and while Musical Romance was consistent she lost 60% of the time. Hilda won 4 of 7 from January to August and only finished worse than second once this year. She was one of the fastest most brilliant female sprinters up until her inuries. She was top dog of the older females until that point. I don't think any other female in the running right now topped her. · 169 days ago ·

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footlick · I agree with DeadHeat. Two very solid choices. Would not be a surprise if Hilda's Passion gets it. When she was right she was brilliant. Caleb has to be a front runner for sprinter with Amazombie. · 169 days ago ·

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Floridaf · I agree with Andy. Caleb's Posse gets 3YO title and Amazombie gets the Sprint Award. Amazombie never finished off the board this year while consistently facing other top contenders in the division. Caleb's Posse might have been unbeaten at one turn, but he did not go head-to-head with the top sprinters. He had a very good year, but I think Amazombie deserves the award more. · 169 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · I believe Amazombie is the Eclipse Award Sprint winner, he won the biggest race for sprinters, the Breeders Cup Sprint, at the traditional sprint distance of 6 furlongs. If the number of turns determines if a race is a sprint, then what about Havre de Grace who won the Beldame around one turn beating the champion 3year old filly, or even Flatout who won the Jockey Club Gold Cup around one turn (OK one and 1/8 turn). The trouble I have with a mile being considered a sprint is that at many tracks a mile race is around two turns, is a mile at Belmont a sprint but not a sprint at Santa Anita? And if a mile is a sprint what about 1 1/16 mile or 1 1/8 mile? To me a sprint is less than a mile. · 169 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Justin Phillip, Travilin Man, To Honor and Serve, Dominus, Posiden's Warrior, Trappe Shot, Tapizar, and Wilburn are all stakes or graded stakes winners beaten by Calebs Posse over the cours of the Amsterdam, KB, and BC Dirt Mile. Grade one winners he won over were Uncle Mo, The Factor, and Shackleford. He faced them and beat them. Amazombie did win the Sprint and beat a good field, but before that he was facing fields that were shorter and weaker. Mike, the problem with your way of thinking is that you fail to mention that the distance of a mile, no matter around one turn or two is not considered a true route and never has been. I say anything over a mile is a route and that anything a mile is a longer sprint because while many sprinters can stretch to a mile, they can't stretch another furlong or sixteenth. · 169 days ago ·

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Floridaf · I think Mile races should belong in a category of their own. I am pretty sure that we can all agree that a mile race just does not truly belong in either the route or the sprint category. Yes, Caleb's Posse has beaten some excellent horses, but I was talking specifically about top Sprint horses. Caleb's Posse never faced Euroears, Smiling Tiger, Amazombie, or Giant Ryan, horses most would consider to be the top sprinters. · 169 days ago ·

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Winplacsho · Amazombie is a slam dunk winner in the Sprint division. He performed at a consistently high level all year. I can hear the argument for Caleb's Posse as 3 year old champ, but Caleb's Posse hasn't even ran at 6 furlongs this year....not once! The race for F/M sprinter is much tighter & I'll lean toward Musical Romance only based on her BC win. · 168 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Giving Musical Romance the nod over Turbulent Descent would be like giving Animal Kingdom the Eclipse over Caleb's Posse. Musical Romance's biggest win was the BC, but she only a G2 and three non-graded stakes race to complement that win. TD never finished worse than 2nd all year until she finished 5th in the BC after a rough start. · 168 days ago ·

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ScottDick · Caleb's Posse won a Breeders' Cup Championship race, that's what sets him apart from AK in my opinion. Turbulent Descent did it all against 3 year old competition. · 168 days ago ·

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Floridaf · And therein lies the problem. The Eclipse awards are broken down into 2-YO, 3-YO, and older categories, but there is only one award per gender for sprinters. · 168 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Amazombie was a place show horse for most of the year. Your top horses are almost all in Cali, which had a fairly week division. Giant Ryan got lucky to have the pace knocked out in the Vosburg and showed his true colors at Churchill, Smiling Tiger lost to The Factor who lost to both Amazombie and Caleb's Posse. As of now there is no seperate divisions and we already have too many. A mile whether around one or two turns is an elongated sprint, therefore a sprint. Caleb won at 6.5f and 7f, both "sprint" distances. He beat sprinters The Factor and Trappe Shot in the BC as well, against much better competition overall than what Amazombie won against. · 168 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Euroears and Giant Ryan had a testosterone battle in the BC sprint and did each other in. If they had focused on the race rather than each other, then the outcome could have been different. They zipped through an opening quarter in 21 flat. Of course, that's purely conjecture, but you can't knock a horse for one bad race. As for who beat who, well, that was the story of the year this season. Every division had that problem. I stand by Amazombie as Sprint Champion and Caleb's Posse as Champion 3-YO. A mile is a mile, not a sprint. · 168 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Floridaf, that would have happened in the Vosburgh too had Euroears not been taken out at the start, that is my point. When GR actually got his speed tested he folded. And to say Caleb beat nobody is downright wrong. I just gave you a long list of graded stakes winners that he beat this entire year in the last three races he won. Amazombie faced The Factor and beat him, in a race he won. Both Euroears and Smiling Tiger thrashed this horse in California, and Smiling Tiger beat this horse on multiple occasions. Smiling Tiger could only manage third against Big Drama and Hamazing Destiny last year. The sprint division in California was weak. Amazobie's big wins were in a relatively weak Ancient Title where the favorite, The Factor was in the truest sense of the words run into the ground early on, and after him the race was pretty much like playing darts. Caleb took the BC against horses that could sprint and mile in open company and won another grade one in addition to that and a very solid grade two field. Any one of the fields he beat were stronger than Amazombie's. Both horses have two grade ones, a grade two. When horses are that close you go by who they face. In the Amsterdam and KB Caleb faced more competitive. · 168 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Whoa DeadHeat! I didn't say that Caleb's Posse beat nobody. He has beat some very good horses this year. I think you have missed my point, which is that he does not belong in the Sprint division in my opinion. If I truly believed that he beat nobody, then I wouldn't have chosen him as the Champion 3-YO. I can see that we will not agree on this, but that is okay because we're each entitled to our opinion. · 168 days ago ·

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Capper · Now that I think about it, I like Musical Romance even more based on her BC win. Turbulent Decent had a nice year, but Hilda's Passion had just as nice a year, but I don't think she isn't really considered due to the fact that she was injured before the BC. · 168 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Whoa DeadHeat! I didn't say that Caleb's Posse beat nobody. He has beat some very good horses this year. I think you have missed my point, which is that he does not belong in the Sprint division in my opinion. If I truly believed that he beat nobody, then I wouldn't have chosen him as the Champion 3-YO. I can see that we will not agree on this, but that is okay because we're each entitled to our opinion. · 168 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · No way is Turbulent Descent going to get the Female Sprint Eclipse. First off, not all of her wins can be considered sprints and her sprint wins weren't exactly fast, which is sort of the main theme of a sprint if I can for once openly like speed. Musical Romance is likewise not a fast sprinter. Too bad the fast females had injuries, like Hilda's Passion or Sassy Image-another one that had some bad races at Gulfstream. Here's a handicapping minor rule I use: throw out bad finishes for fillies at GP and any bad race by a horse that was stuck on the rail there. So I don't really have a pick for top female sprinter but I would really like some explanation as to why Switch was not run on dirt at 7f. as much as possible this year and not all the other experimentation? Not that I'm owed an explanation. Just put one in my stocking if inclined, thanks. Male sprinter: simply put Amazombie. Want more detail? I'll whip out equibase or it's there for all to review. Add in his DQ as a win cuz, truly not long ago he wouldn't have been taken down. Nowadays, yes, ancient times, probably not. · 168 days ago ·

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GregRiessland · zombie gets the sprint and caleb should get 3 year old male. i say turbulent descent for female sprint. i think she could beat older girls, just like zazu did. · 168 days ago ·

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Jackson Bend Continues Forego Preparations

Jackson Bend, who won by 2 ½ lengths when cut back in distance for the seven-furlong James Marvin on July 22, continued preparations for the Grade 1 Forego on September 3 with a 48.77 four-furlong breeze on the Oklahoma training track Thursday. Trained by Hall of Famer Nick Zito for Robert La...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 284 days ago ·

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tiznow · Definitely a much better fit at a mile or under. · 284 days ago ·

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Jackson Bend Records First Forego Move

Jackson Bend had his first work since posting a convincing 2 ½-length victory in the July 23 James Marvin Stakes, covering four furlongs in 49.30 on the Oklahoma training track with exercise rider Maxine Correa. “He went great,” said Hall of Fame trainer Nick Zito, who has circled the Grade 1...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 297 days ago ·

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Regal Ransom Returns to Worktab

Godolphin Racing’s Regal Ransom returned to the worktab Thursday morning at Saratoga Race Course, turning in his first breeze since finishing last as the favorite in the Grade 1 Stephen Foster Handicap at Churchill Downs on June 18. Working alone at 5:30 a.m., Regal Ransom, who won Dubai ’s Group 2 ...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 304 days ago ·

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Is Jackson Bend Back???

It's been a long time in coming for the little guy. Jackson Bend had not found himself in the winner's circle for the better part of two years...Read More

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bellesforever1 · Yes he's back..put a smile on my face. · 311 days ago ·

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Waya · I've always liked this horse. Thank God they have him back sprinting finally! · 311 days ago ·

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