Zenyatta in Dream Race vs. Ruffian, Cigar, Seabiscuit & Affirmed

10/30/2010 11:32 AM
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Zenyatta simulation race Horse Racing Simulation created a dream matchup race of Zenyatta vs. nine other all-time greats: Cigar, Affirmed, Citation, Seabiscuit, Ruffian, Barbaro and others. 



 

Zenyatta  |  Smarty Jones  |  Seabiscuit  |  Ruffian  |  Rachel Alexandra  |  Citation  |  Cigar  |  Big Brown  |  Barbaro  |  Affirmed

What the Nation is saying about Zenyatta in Dream Race vs. Ruffian, Cigar, Seabiscuit & Affirmed...

I think Ruffian would have run till her dang heart burst. It's an insult to her memory to suggest that she'd fade like that
And yet Zenyatta, a California horse is the featured equine on Oaklawn.com's web site, first thing you see when you open the home page. I guessing they liked her in Arkansas.
  • BrianBradley · Zenyatta ran 20 races, with 17 being in California on synthetic surface. Of the 3 races outside her state, two were in Arkansas. Hence, Arkansas can lay claim to most races by Zenyatta outside of California. I realize she was great, but,,,,,,running exclusively in California, and, at Santa Anita, on a "carpet" that was laid prior to the first of two successive BC's, and then taken up shortly after the second consecutive BC, tarnishes her accomplishments. Rachel Alexandra, on the other hand, had raced at seven different tracks in five different states; beaten the boys in 3 different Grade 1 races; ran in the slop; won by 20+ links on 3 occasions, all in one year. Also, Ruffian had run in 11 races, with the last race being her ill-fated race. She won from distances of 5 1/2 furlongs to 1 1/2 miles; never trailed a race after a 1/8 mile out of the gate; and, tied, or broke, 9 stakes or track records. For all the accolades that are being showered on Zenyatta now, I would rate her a distant third to Ruffian and Rachel Alexandra. · 359 days ago ·
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People seriously this is a computer generated game! If it where this easy we would be able to see who the winner was with every race. You never know who would win against who unless they actually race against each other. It's all for fun.
It was obvious Zenyatta would win because it was called Zenyatta in Dream Race.
I'm not saying that she would have totally lost, but this is a GAME the people could have easily chosen to do this. It is a program that needs PROGRAMING people need to put a hand in it some where...
Wow...this is hilarious. Too bad I can't seem to think that Affirmed and Citation, especially Seabiscuit, would run that kind of race against these guys. Don't get me, wrong, I like some of the horses in this field, but I just don't think with even the two Triple Crown winners would lose like that. Oh well. Just my humble opinion.
Its not accurate! Who knows, Affirmed or whoever could have had more stamina than they ever showed in arace
I do agree with TimSmith, these are all neat, and interesting, but highly controversial and can't be taken seriously with every single variable in here. Simulations races aren't credible...
LOL Fun to watch but who knows what would happen.
ok, NO WAY ruffian would have came 6th! she was in the lead and everyone knows once she was there she would under no circumstances let anyone get by her! and besides, ciitations avatar horse thingy full on moved when zenyatta "came with her run" which was total bulls*it!
I agree with the guy above me.
This thread prove that most of Zenyatta fans are either amateur or pure nut case. They don't see clearly.
rachel is prety much one of the toughest damin fillies there is. it is good to see her in my life time.
oh it does on the fact blame wasn't even at 100% back that day, he ran harder against quailty road when they matched uo, back when quailty road was on top game. z could beat him on syn, but dirt? no shot. he ran about 10 less on the breeders cup from what he is capebale of. she fought hard to try and nose him. both are very gifted, but i think blame is the better he saw her and dug in with a hand ride. not only speaking of as a fan and hell i didn't bet blame on the jockey gold cup and i love that horse. knew he would be flat after that battle with quality road and noone could take haynsfiedl that day. when a horse is rigt hes right.
last I remember they were dead even with Foolish Pleasure already prove himself at 11/4 mile and Ruffian still at 1 1/8.Rachel was a ton faster than Ruffian.Just look at the charts
It's always a stretch to compare horse by fantasy matchups but, if you ask me, the other 9 would have been run into the ground by Ruffian. Top Thoroughbreds can only run top speed for about 3/8ths of a mile. Ruffian could run top speed for at least 1 1/8th. I mean, does anyone remember what she did to Foolish Pleasure until she oyran her own body? She was a singular animal. I do think Zenyatta would have closed mightily and Cigar, Citation and Affirmed would have been there in a blanket 2nd but, no horse could outrun Ruffian except Ruffian. Unfortunately, she did just that. What a waste, for human ego.
Excuse me, dubby30, and I mean this in no rude way at all, but I have been pondering this question forever, and I would really like an answer. What spurs on your hatred for Zenyatta? What makes her so detestable that you just always have to do something "anti-Zenyatta"? Again, I mean this in no rude way at all, I am just curious.
Actually dubby30, going down the backstretch the announcer says she is 18-20 lengths off the leader. After reading my comment again, I do realize how you may make that mistake, I have an error. I meant to say after coming from 20+ lengths off, to be able to come that close is phenomenal. I am sorry, it was a mistake. But in case you were wondering, I very well do know how to read a chart. It's all racing style. If you ever watched any of her other races, she ran the same way, but this time she couldn't find her stride. She stumbled out of the gate as well. I really don't care anymore, people think what they think. But thank you for the compliment on my comments.
I enjoy ur sentiments TB44 but you seem to have a number of your opinions a bit skewed. First off a 1 dimensional horse is not going to be considered more talented than a horse that can be a deep closer, a mid pack closer or a stalker. 2nd, if anyone, including your self can show me a chart that shows that Zenyatta was 20 lengths behind Blame that would be something special considering turning for home she was 2 lengths off Blame's flank, unfortunately either you didnt or maybe dont know how to read a race chart. But remember they both left the same gate at the same time, Blame was tactical enough to be able to be a few lengths better than Zenyatta in the early stages because he was more talented and able to show "Tactical Speed" something Zenyatta was unable to do. But nice comments anyway.
I don't think Blame is better than Zenyatta. I think Blame is a magnificently gifted horse, but I think Zenyatta is more talented. No doubt Blame had a phenomenal career, but just because she lost by a nose coming from 20+ lengths back to him doesn't make him better, if that were true, then would that make Prove Out better than Secretariat? I know, it's Secretariat, but just a metaphor. I have followed Blame his whole career, so don't say I'm putting him down, I just think that the race didn't define her limits, but merely made her greater, it showed that she doesn't give up.
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