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You know what it really aggravates me when people think a horse being better than AP is no big deal and Arrogate is better in just three races so wanted to show you just how much better AP and his historical peers are. AP I get the sense is seen as overrated by alot of people and not really as good as his peers. So I'm going to compare him to the consensus 4 other best horses of the past half century or so(Secretariat, Seattle Slew, Affirmed and Bid) AP ran twice at 2, once at 7 and once at 8.5 7 AP 1.21.48 at Del Mar 7 Bid 1.20.80 at Atlantic City 7 Affirmed 1.21.60 at Belmont(comparable track to Del Mar) 7 Seattle Slew 1.22.00 at Belmont 8.5 AP 1.41.95 at SA 8.5 Bid 1.41.60 at Laurel, 1.42.00 at Keystone and 1.43.20 at Meadowlands 8.5 Affirmed 1.44.20 I don't know about you but AP looks competitive at 2 to me. Now on to three. AP ran 9 twice, 10 three times and 12 once. We are throwing out his runs at 8.5 and 9.5 because they were on the slop. Also going to compare by peer race(what time of the year race is) Major Derby Prep 9 AP 1.48.52 Arkansas Derby 9 Spectacular Bid 1.48.40 Flamingo 1.48.80 Florida Derby 1.50.00 Blue Grass Stakes(yes this was a fast track) 9 Affirmed 1.48.00 Santa Anita Derby(and that's a faster track than Oaklawn) 1.48.20 in the Hollywood Derby another faster track than Oaklawn. 9 Seattle Slew 1.47.40 Flamingo Stakes1.49.80 Wood Memorial 9 Secretariat lost the Wood Memorial to Angle Light in about 1.50.60. Derby 10 AP 2.03.02 10 Bid 2.02.40 10 Affirmed 2.01.20 10 Seattle Slew 2.02.20 10 Secretariat 1.59.40 Belmont(Slew doesn't count because he won on slop not fair to him) 12 AP 2.26.65 12 Bid lost to Coastal with the winning time being 2.28.60(using HRN's numbers don't have the lengths so I'm not giving you Bid's time). 12 Affirmed 2.26.80 12 Secretariat 2.24.00(world record) Post TC 9 furlong race 9 AP Haskell 1.47.95(Monmouth isn't exactly a speedway) 9 Bid Marlboro Cup 1.46. 60(keep in mind this was a month later) 9 Affirmed Jim Dandy 1.47.80(stakes record) loss in the Marlboro to SS in 1.46.60 exact same time as Bid's win. 9 Secretariat Arlington Invitational 1.47.00, loss in the Whitney in 1.49.40, Marlboro Cup 1.45.40(world record) Post Derby 10 furlong race/championship race 10 Arrogate Travers 1.59.36 at Saratoga 10 Arrogate BCC 2.00.11 at Santa Anita 10 AP BCC 2.00.07 at Keeneland! 10 Bid Meadowlands 2.01.20 12 Bid JCGC lost to Affirmed in about 2.27.55. 10 Affirmed Travers 2.02.00 at Saratoga 12 Affirmed JCGC lost by almost 20 lentghs to a winning time of 2.27.20. 12 Seattle Slew lost the Swaps in 2.01.80. Is it just me or does AP stack up pretty darn good to the all time greats and at the very least deserve to be considered the definitive best since Bid? You guys see what I mean now about Arrogate's lack of a three year old year hurting him?
Wanted to compare AP to his historical peers. AP I get the sense is seen as overrated by alot of people and not really as good as his peers. So I'm going to compare him to the consensus 4 other best horses of the past half century or so(Secretariat, Seattle Slew, Affirmed and Bid) AP ran twice at 2, once at 7 and once at 8.5 7 AP 1.21.48 at Del Mar 7 Bid 1.20.80 at Atlantic City 7 Affirmed 1.21.60 at Belmont(comparable track to Del Mar) 7 Seattle Slew 1.22.00 at Belmont 8.5 AP 1.41.95 at SA 8.5 Bid 1.41.60 at Laurel, 1.42.00 at Keystone and 1.43.20 at Meadowlands 8.5 Affirmed 1.44.20 I don't know about you but AP looks competitive at 2 to me. Know on to three. AP ran 9 twice, 10 three times and 12 once. We are throwing out his runs at 8.5 and 9.5 because they were on the slop. Also going to compare by peer race(what time of the year race is) Major Derby Prep 9 AP 1.48.52 Arkansas Derby 9 Spectacular Bid 1.48.40 Flamingo 1.48.80 Florida Derby 1.50.00 Blue Grass Stakes(yes this was a fast track) 9 Affirmed 1.48.00 Santa Anita Derby(and that's a faster track than Oaklawn) 1.48.20 in the Hollywood Derby another faster track than Oaklawn. 9 Seattle Slew 1.47.40 Flamingo Stakes1.49.80 Wood Memorial 9 Secretariat lost the Wood Memorial to Angle Light in about 1.50.60. Derby 10 AP 2.03.02 10 Bid 2.02.40 10 Affirmed 2.01.20 10 Seattle Slew 2.02.20 10 Secretariat 1.59.40 Belmont(Slew doesn't count because he won on slop not fair to him) 12 AP 2.26.65 12 Bid lost to Coastal with the winning time being 2.28.60(using HRN's numbers don't have the lengths so I'm not giving you Bid's time). 12 Affirmed 2.26.80 12 Secretariat 2.24.00(world record) Post TC 9 furlong race 9 AP Haskell 1.47.95(Monmouth isn't exactly a speedway) 9 Bid Marlboro Cup 1.46. 60(keep in mind this was a month later) 9 Affirmed Jim Dandy 1.47.80(stakes record) loss in the Marlboro to SS in 1.46.60 exact same time as Bid's win. 9 Secretariat Arlington Invitational 1.47.00, loss in the Whitney in 1.49.40, Marlboro Cup 1.45.40(world record) Post Derby 10 furlong race/championship race 10 AP BCC 2.00.07 at Keeneland! 10 Bid Meadowlands 2.01.20 12 Bid JCGC lost to Affirmed in about 2.27.55. 10 Affirmed Travers 2.02.00 at Saratoga 12 Affirmed JCGC lost by almost 20 lentghs to a winning time of 2.27.20. 12 Seattle Slew lost the Swaps in 2.01.80. Is it just me or does AP stack up pretty darn good to the all time greats and at the very least deserve to be considered the definitive best since Bid?
I'd love to see "Winx" Vs "Almanzor" in a 10f race, that would be a MOUTH-WATERING clash, 2 turf SUPERSTARS going at it, in what would be a totally epic duel!!!! :-D
  • DonnysDeadBrainCells via Disqus · No, it wouldn't, Almanzor would destroy her. · 2 days ago
  • lostarts via Disqus · I'm trying to figure out if I'm an amateur by commenting here or not. But I'll go for it anyways. Why would Tepin not be a great challenge when she is ready? Is it that she won't ship? · 4 hours ago
This filly has a bright future
Has delivered a filly out of War Front.
Bet of the day on Saturday
This horse is amazing . When you watch him race he seems unstoppable I hope he can win this race because he just could be another Star in our Sport
I was a fan of one liner before he got into racing . It has been a while for this dangerous combo of Jockey & Trainer to win the derby . As I was watching the race I noticed the only horse Ortiz was worried about was the horse who he lost to last time. It was a perfect race chosen by another Trainer who will make history in our sport. So here we are the time has come to show who has a horse who can win in Derby . I am so amazed by One liner can't Waite to bet him for Derby
Lani has arrived in Dubai
Masochistic worked 7f, February 23rd, in 1:25.60 (h) finishing 2/3.
Finest City worked 6f, February 23rd, in 1:13.40 (h) finishing 6/34.
Mor Spirit worked 5f, February 23rd, in 1:01.00 (h) finishing 26/97.
Hoppertunity worked 5f, February 23rd, in 1:01.00 (h) finishing 26/97.
Flamboyant worked 5f, February 23rd, in 1:00.00 (h) finishing 1/97.
Ashleyluvssugar worked 4f, February 23rd, in 48:00 (h) finishing 15/77.
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If you want an up and coming horse, take a look at Adonis Creed. The French bred son of Oasis Dream has won two on the Gulfstream turf. He won a Maiden Claimer and a Starter Optional Claimer since blinkers were added. His future looks bright. And for all my Canterbury followers, Casse and Barber have finished second in the Mystic Lake Derby twice, so this could be that gets them that first ML Derby win.
While we await what is probably going to be the anti-climactic announcement concerning Arrogate going to Dubai we get to watch Winx in action this weekend. She is running in the Grade 1 Chipping Norton Stakes at Randwick on Saturday. She is the 1/9 favorite in the advance betting with Hartnell the second choice at 8/1. Winx drew the 4 post for the 1 mile race which is scheduled for 12.30 AM EST on Saturday and can be seen live at skyracingworld.com. Enjoy.
  • Neigh Sayer via Disqus · Thanks for that heads up, I appreciate that and will be watching. · 14 hours ago
Anyone want to discuss racing? Does Arrogate go to Dubai?
Destin should be back by the summer it seems like! http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/apb-destin-on-the-comeback-trail/

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