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Q of the D: Who would you say is the most over rated horse of this century?
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  • Jay S. · I've changed my mind from Orb, and that wasn't easy. For me, it is now a split decision: Ride On Curlin & Ria Antonia. · 121 days ago
  • tmallios · Your getting warm Jay. You are on the right track. You are short from being overcooked. Hope all is well. · 121 days ago
There have been many "who was the best of..." posts recently and it got me thinking. I like many other got caught up in the Rachel vs Zenyatta debate. Being an East Coast guy I leaned toward Rachel at first. Having seen both of them run in person and falling in love with both I could not pick between the two. I write this as a retrospective having been removed from their careers for a few years and looking back some thoughts have been stirred up by reading some recent posts about her. A knock on Zenyatta was that she did not face the boys enough and did not travel out of California enough to race on the East Coast. As a fan and wanting to see the most out of a champion and horse I love I wish she had done the latter as well but lets not allow that to take away from what she did accomplish on the racetrack. Zenyatta's competition often comes into question. Yet she beat the likes of mares such as BC Distaff winners Ginger Punch(twice) and Life is Sweet. She also beat Switch, Hystericalady, Bear Now, Just Jenda and Zardanna, who all did or would go on to win Graded stakes races outside of California(notable:Zardanna beat Rachel Alexandra; Tough Tiz's Sis won Gr.1 Ruffian in NY). In her 2 starts against males she had 1 win and 1 second on the biggest stage, the BCC beating the likes of Gio Ponti, Twice Over, Lookin At Lucky, Colonel John, Mine That Bird, Summer Bird, Rip Van Winkle. Quality Road, Richard's Kid, Einstein,First Dude, Musket Man, Haynesfield, Espoir City, Etched, Paddy O'Prado. She came within a length of being only the second 2 time BCC classic winner and the first to do it on 2 different surfaces. Zenyatta did leave California 3 times winning the Apple Blossom twice( beating defending BC Distaff champ Ginger Punch in only her 4th start; was supposed to have showdown with Rachel in her 2nd Apple Blossom but Rachel did not show) . Her 3rd start out of California was the previously mentioned loss in the BCC. We always want more from our great horses and as a fan I am guilty of that but let us not forget what she did accomplish
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  • https://www.facebook.com/john.karczewski.39 · I didn't intend the comments to be a comparison or a case for either against one another. If you read my post I said I started as a Rachel fan but grew to love each equally and could never choose between the two. I only mentioned Rachel to show that I even as a fan of Rachel grew fond of Zenyatta and admired her accomplishments. I mentioned that only because I didn't want to come off as a Zenyatta super fan not compare the two. I just wanted to show my objectiveness on the two. · 127 days ago
  • Cedar · Sorry I should have worded my response better! Definitely was not trying to group you into what I was saying, and I apologize for it coming off that way. This debate has just been brought up a lot especially in the past few days and I've found some perspectives on it to be... interesting. Just my two cents, not trying to say anything about you · 127 days ago
In order to get a precocious turf miler from Zenyatta, which three American stallions would you breed to her?
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  • goblin · One reason for Animal Kingdom's shuttle status is probably his division of ownership. If Arrowfield owns 51%, Darley owns 29%, and Team Valor owns 20%; he is going to be dividing his time between hemispheres. http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/27/sport/winning-post-animal-kingdom-dave-dillon/ · 128 days ago
  • Sullivan · His ownership is a result of Darley's thoughts that he would be a success in America · 128 days ago
I do have to say Zenyatta is pretty overrated. Yes she beat the boys. But so did Rachel Alexandra, Regret, Genuine Risk, etc. She was also the first filly to win the BC Classic. There were a lot of undefeated horses. There were a lot of horse that came from behind. Zenyatta is no different from them. She's Zenyatta and I respect her, but I do think she's overrated.
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  • zenyatta mondatta · For all bashing Zenyatta, please let me know when you ever see another one like her in our lifetime. Zenyatta ran in grade 1 races, she can't help WHO didn't want to CHALLENGE her. Can't blame her for that. She did excel at every race she ran in and only coming up short by a nose in her final race after dealing with tiring horses in the final stretch of the 2010 BCC. · 128 days ago
  • tmallios · zenyatta mondatta,please explain your comment on the Zennyatta bashing you mention. Unless i missed something on this and the other thread. Most,even myself acknowledge that she was an excellent race horese. So within the last week,did the word bashing take a left turn in meaning. Does it mean that if someone is not as high on a horse as the persons who think of them as highly,that they are bashing her. · 128 days ago
Can we stop saying horses are overrated and just appreciate that they raced for our enjoyment
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  • Digidot · There is nothing wrong with having a discussion, if the topic doesn't interst you don't take part in it. · 129 days ago
  • Sullivan · u tell me · 129 days ago
to rafirox: why do people call her overrated cause she averaged only 6 opponets per race. She had multiple opportunitys to face the boys on the east coast bet stayed on a terrible west coast to face a terrible crop of mares. Her only good win was her classic win. Think of it like Lebron James facing high school students and being called the greatest and the next big thing. Lmao. She makes my top 100 mares of all time.
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  • SSilence87 · plus the fact you talk about her as an almighty immortal race mare is another reason we think shes overrated · 131 days ago
  • Ruffianlover · I don't think she's overrated. An argument can be made for any filly/mare as everyone has their weaknesses and anyone can sit around and pick apart their career. Basically she was a great horse who we are lucky we got to see run and get to see her babies run. Let's just leave it at that · 131 days ago
Would the Moss's ever go to Kitten joy?
In my opinion, WTC.
Since she is getting the year off do you think they will ship her to Galileo? Or will they want to keep their beloved mare close to home? I think that Galileo would be ideal.
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  • kay.robinett · Kitten's Joy, MDO, hat Trick, and I would like to see a return to Tapit, seeing as how well put together Zicinic has turned out to be. · 137 days ago
  • Sullivan · Kitten's Joy only worth a damn with Ramsey ownership... love Medaglia D'Oro · 137 days ago
Question of the Day .... intrigued by EP Taylor's list ... who are your Top 5 Mares of all time?
Getting the year off. I'm glad. The best decision.
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  • LAZMANNICK · Sword, you and Lisa both did an excellent job. IMO, they key to Commanding Curve was that he has been on the finges lately and those types are often sitting on a big race. The other key and the one that swayed me to him was his excellent Chruchill form. My biggest problem was not believing that Danza would come right back with another big effort. I don't necessarily believe in the bounce theory but I applied it to him and left him off most of my tickets (I didn't bet much on the Derby anyway, but I did have the ex). If it wasn't for that I had the top six. My brother did well. He had a deuce straight up on the tri. Luckily for me, I had an excellent day earlier with good money on Central Banker and good money on a 26-1 firster at Woodbine that beat a 3-5 shot. After those bets I basically shut it down until making a few shot bets on the Derby. · 173 days ago
  • SSilence86 · I had the tri cold. Had the exacta cold once Commanding got in. Changed my 3/4 place on Friday- moving Danza to the show. Didn't pull over and bet it like I should have.. :( · 173 days ago
OMG Z14 is... http://www.zenyatta.com/news/princess-zs-first-days
New pics of Z14. That girl has a shoulder on her. http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/136295185/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/8x10_hrz_14Z.jpg
She will be bred to Candy Ride.
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  • AmbitiousD · I know its way too early, but I was really hoping for Gio Ponti. What a turf monster that foal would be · 184 days ago
  • AnnaK · Yes Ambitious! My choices would be Gio Ponti & Invasor. · 184 days ago
Kinda bored and watching some older races and came accross Zenyatta's maiden. Pretty cool seeing her go 6 1/2 furlongs. Her move in her maiden was almost identical to the one she made in her biggest win, the 09 Classic
  • travel_vic · tyr to see Silky SUllivan's 6.5 win at Anita....NEVER got a call until AFTER Hernandez turned off the microphone · 186 days ago
She will be bred to Candy Ride.
So now who will she be bred to? Galileo? Kittens Joy? Distorted Humor? Tiznow? Medaglia D'oro? Elusive Quality? SMART STRIKE!!!!!
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  • icyhotboo · War Front, she was multi surface and I don't know why they didn't try her on turf as SA at that time was more akin to turf than dirt. Declaration Of War was just a magnificant horse on both surfaces. If not him I would go right back to Tapit. · 187 days ago
  • yukichan · The chatter is that she'll be bred back to Tapit, Mosses are pleased with looks of Ziconic. · 187 days ago
The Queen now has a Princess! an Easter baby. can't wait to see pictures of her!
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  • kaitlinefree1 · https://twitter.com/debbimar10/status/458030620745015296/photo/1 another photo of Princess Z. · 188 days ago
  • travel_vic · mare had a foal. Will it be ANYTHING like her? Doubtful · 187 days ago
First Picture and they look a lot alike! http://instagram.com/p/nAMK10IqGx/
Q of the D : do you think Zenyatta could give Ruffian a run for her money?
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  • travel_vic · In theory, one would not know until she tried it · 188 days ago
  • Sullivan · This is what bothers me. Balance and Zenyatta were both strongest off dirt. We know Eblouissiante has talent; why isn't she showing it in the green? · 188 days ago

Zenyatta - Race Results & Past Performances

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View DetailsView Video11/06/10Zenyatta2ndCD111 1/4 mDBreeders Cup Classic-G1 3+ MBlameZenyattaFly Down2:02.28
View DetailsView Video08/07/10Zenyatta1stDmr91 1/16 mSClement L. Hirsch Stakes-G1 3+ FZenyattaRintervalPrincess Taylor1:45.03
View DetailsView Video06/13/10Zenyatta1stHP81 1/8 mSVanity Hcp-G1 3+ FZenyattaSt TriniansZardana1:49.01
View DetailsView Video04/09/10Zenyatta1stOP101 1/8 mDApple Blossom-G1 4+ FZenyattaTaptamBe Fair1:50.71
View DetailsView Video03/13/10Zenyatta1stSA71 1/8 mSSanta Margarita-G1 4+ FZenyattaDance To My TuneFloating Heart1:48.20
View DetailsView Video11/07/09Zenyatta1stSA91 1/4 mSBreeders Cup Classic-G1 3+ MZenyattaGio PontiTwice Over2:00.62
View DetailsView Video10/10/09Zenyatta1stSA81 1/16 mSLady's Secret-G1 3+ FZenyattaLethal HeatCocoa Beach1:42.89
View DetailsView Video08/09/09Zenyatta1stDmr81 1/16 mSClement L. Hirsch Stakes-G1 3+ FZenyattaAnabaa's CreationLethal Heat1:43.24
View DetailsView Video06/27/09Zenyatta1stHP41 1/8 mSVanity Hcp-G1 3+ FZenyattaBriecatDawn After Dawn1:48.15
View DetailsView Video05/23/09Zenyatta1stHP81 1/16 mSMilady Handicap-G2 3+ FZenyattaLife Is SweetAllicansayis Wow1:42.30
View DetailsView Video10/24/08Zenyatta1stSA71 1/8 mSBreeders Cup Distaff-G1 3+ FZenyattaCocoa BeachMusic Note1:46.85
View DetailsView Video09/27/08Zenyatta1stSA51 1/16 mSLady's Secret-G1 3+ FZenyattaHystericaladySanta Teresita1:40.30
View DetailsView Video08/02/08Zenyatta1stDmr91 1/16 mSClement L. Hirsch Stakes-G2 3+ FZenyattaModelTough Tizs Sis1:41.48
View DetailsView Video07/05/08Zenyatta1stHP51 1/8 mSVanity Hcp-G1 3+ FZenyattaTough Tizs SisSilver Swallow1:49.51
View DetailsView Video05/31/08Zenyatta1stHP51 1/16 mSMilady Handicap-G2 3+ FZenyattaSanta TeresitaKris' Sis1:41.17
View DetailsView Video04/05/08Zenyatta1stOP81 1/16 mDApple Blossom-G1 4+ FZenyattaBrownie PointsGinger Punch1:42.64
View DetailsView Video01/13/08Zenyatta1stSA91 1/16 mSEl Encino-G2 4 FZenyattaTough Tizs SisRomance Is Diane1:40.61
View DetailsView Video12/15/07Zenyatta1stHP51 1/16 mSAllow 3+ FZenyattaQuite A StormkatDown1:40.97
View DetailsView Video11/22/07Zenyatta1stHP66 1/2 fSMSW 3+ FZenyattaCarmel CoffeeElusive Melody1:15.22