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From DRF (The Inside Post): Always in a Tiz will run in Belmont Stakes 2013.Posted 1 day ago
Mucho Macho Man breezed 5f in 1:01.40 (4/11) at Fair Hill on 5-24. Posted 1 day ago
Wise Dan targets the G2 Firecracker 'Cap at Churchill on June 29. Posted 1 day ago
Jockey Chantal Sutherland will return to saddle at Del Mar. Posted 2 days ago
Itsmyluckyday to skip Belmont Stakes 2013 in favor of Pegasus Stakes on 6-16. Posted 2 days ago
Rosie Napravnik will ride Code West in Belmont Stakes 2013. Posted 2 days ago
From DRF (The Inside Post): Mylute will not run in Belmont Stakes 2013. Posted 2 days ago
Eblouissante breezed 4f :49.17 (18/44) at Belmont (dirt Training) on 5-22. Posted 2 days ago
Giant Finish will make his next start in Belmont Stakes 2013. Posted 3 days ago
Unlimited Budget is expected to face males in Belmont Stakes 2013. Posted 4 days ago

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Mr. Prospector

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Owner(s):

Aisco Stable

Trainer:

Warren A. Croll Jr.

Bred:

Kentucky (USA) by Leslie Combs II - [Add Data]

Pedigree:

Raise A Native - Gold Digger by Nashua

Rating:

8.27/10

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Pulpit's Legacy Lives On

Pulpit was bred to be a champion. His bloodlines will continue as part of Claiborne's history. Read More

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I'll Have Another - Stud or Dud?

How special will the Kentucky Derby-Preakness winner be as a stallion?Read More

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DipakRoy · I'll Have Another have very decent pedigree, it attracted me when i saw his run in the Santa Anita Derby beating Creative Cause, then i started to study his pedigree very deeply and found out that this horse has a very good chance to win the Kentucky Derby, so that was my 1st selection, then when i saw Mr. Bob Baffert horse Bodemeister in Arkansas Derby cantering way of winning, i was convinced that the Kentucky Derby will be wo by California Horse , either by Bodemeister or I'll Have Another, so i ignored all other horses for the Kentucky Derby and select Bodemeister, I'll Have Another and bet both of them in the derby, and select Dullahan, Creative Cause, Union Rags and Gemologist in my Trifecta and Superfecta, so i kept Bodemeister and I'll Have Another on the top and the rest i boxed them , i got the Trifecta but i did,nt get the Superfecta, since I'll Have Another won the derby , i watched the derby video again and again and determined that I'll Have Another will win the Preakness, so i did the same thing in the Preakness except this time I put I'll Have Another only on the top and Bodemeister,Creative Cause, Teeth of The Dog and Zetterholm were boxed for Trifecta and superfaecta , i got the win, Trifecta and Superfecta, this time i put single win $1000.00 on I'll Have Another, but for Belmont Stakes i was sure that I'll Have Another has'nt got the pedigree to stay Belmont distance, so i select Paynter, Dullahan and Union Rags, i put single bet on Paynter and union Rags, i did,nt got the Trifecta and Superfecta because of my own mistakes, i intially put Atigan in my selection and i bet the Trifecta and Superfecta , but later i changed the ticket to take out Atigan and put Unstoppable U, so i lost the Trifecta and Superfecta by my own wrong judgement, in my opinion I'll Have Another is very good for 1-1/4 miles, he might not stay 1-1/2 miles, so i am very skeptical about that. · 339 days ago ·

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travel_vic · One NEVER knows. Citation, Cigar and many others did not do well in that career · 339 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · So your saying you pretty much were cashing winners every race? Wins,Exacters,Tris and Supers .....haha Dipak you crack me up. · 339 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Depends on the mare quality he gets. · 339 days ago ·

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kay.robinett · The problem with Flower Alley is that · 339 days ago ·

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kay.robinett · oops - hit enter too soon. The problems with Flower Alley are that (1) his outstanding sire is still young and healthy and producing offspring and (2) he was a late maturing three year old whose best distance was 10 furlongs. So the people with the best mares (and money) who want Distorted Humor blood have been sending their mares to Distorted Humor and the breed for sales club usually do not send their mares to late maturing stayers. In an earlier age when many breeders bred to race and did not mind waiting for a three year old to mature and wanted some stamina, Flower Alley would have had a much better chance at being a top stud. Now multiply the Flower Alley issues for I'll Have Another as you now have three generations of stallions for the breeders to choose from, with the younger father son combo both being late maturing stayers. Since so much of the breeding these days centers around precocious two year old speed rather than a quality staying three year old I can see I'll Have Another having trouble getting mares. It's a true shame. I hope we do not get a Sunday Silence scenario where a nice young classic winning stallion gets shipped overseas and becomes a breed changing stallion! · 339 days ago ·

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kyle.stasierowski · I think I'll Have Another will make a great sire considering he's by Flower Alley out of an Arch mare, who sired the 2010 Breeders' Cup Classic winner Blame. Also I'll Have Another won the Kentucky Derby (Grade I) at 1 mile and 1/4 and the Preakness Stakes (Grade I) at 1 mile and 3/16. · 338 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · TV is right, breeding is almost pure luck. The great Citation and Cigar never turned up much and Secretariat never produced a horse who would match himself or come close - which I guess is fair as only 3 horses IMO could - Kelso, Man O' War and Citation. · 338 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Risen Star, Kingston Rule, Lady's Sceret, can't reacall his name but track record holder in the Travers, and the "get" from hiis mares was phenomenal Cheif's Crown among many others · 338 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Since Kelso was a gelding what chance did he have to reproduce himself? · 338 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · None of them would make it to the top 50. Tom Fool and Buckpasser and Man O' War and War Admiral and Alydar and Alysheba/Easy Goer were better sire/foal combos. · 338 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Just like looking for a single winner each race, tyro's constantly try to equate the racing of one era to another. IT CANNOT BE DONE with any logic as nutrition is better, training better, track surfaces better, horse shoes lighter etc etc · 338 days ago ·

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DipakRoy · guys who do not believe my comments, it is ok, i do not want to proof anything to anybody, i know how good i am in handicapping horses, if any body has doubt in one's mind, ask the mangement of HRN, they know how good i am? and i also do'nt care who believes me or not. i cashed $2300.00 in kentucky derby and $4200.00 in preakness, but i did not able to cash too much in the belmont stakes, because i got only the winner. i live in Vancouver , Canada and Hastings Race Course Ticket counter knows how good i am in selecting horses. · 338 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · DipakRoy, I remember you. You made some nice selections last year, keep it up. · 338 days ago ·

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TimSmith · Ok Dipak ,You are the best no doubt · 338 days ago ·

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jmac500 · Afleet Alex was a prime example. · 338 days ago ·

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b1ueeyes03 · I want to see Oatsee (Dam of Shackelford) visit Ill Have Another or Flower Alley! · 338 days ago ·

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notobsessed · I would like to see Oatsee/Distorted Humor · 338 days ago ·

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Cocoa2 · @notobsessed, that would be a miler to threaten Frankel's crown! · 338 days ago ·

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notobsessed · I'm not remembering who Oatsee is in foal to right now...I am waiting for her 3 year old APIndy colt, Stephanoatsee, to resume training after an injury earlier this year · 337 days ago ·

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silverruffian · Nice speculation in the article. The thing is, they won't know until they test IHA. He could be sterile. And if his trainer has been doping him up, that might have an effect on him too. I'm sorry his story ended like it did. I really wanted to see how we would have handled the Belmont. I just hope he doesn't end up like Ferdinand: shipped over to Japan and turned into dog food. · 337 days ago ·

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notobsessed · stud or dud, we'll never know · 336 days ago ·

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MaynardRunkle · travel_vic The record holder in the Travers is General Assembly. He was sold to Germany. I am always amused that certain stallions fall out of favor and then get few opportunities. I am amazed that the fastest horse in our lifetime is represented by so little cross-breeding. By fastest, I mean over a distance, but Secretariat also put up some excellent speed figures at shorter distances as well. When Canadian Bound sold for an astronomical figure and then did not race, people complained Secretariat was no good at stud. It could be that some of his greatest attributes were recessive and would not be reproduced without more cross-breeding. Since fourty years have passed there has been little attempt to do so. What are you waiting for? · 336 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Inbreeding weakens horses terribly, even the strongest and fittest horses like Northern Dancer and Native Dancer will come up with weak colts when they show up too much in a pedigree. Ideally no inbreeding would ever take place, as the most successful method of breeding is by crossing lines or strains of the Thoroughbred. These days these bloodlines have almost disappeared completely. Every horse is either related to Bold Ruler or Native Dancer. You can see the success this bloodline crossing has in horses like Man O' War (Spendthrift x Springfield), which also produced My Play and Mad Hatter and Masda and Messenger. · 336 days ago ·

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travel_vic · ONE of these days the breeding industry is going to have to come up with the inevitable: ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION so that stallions from completely isolated parts of the world can mix outcross gene to instill hybrid vigor. · 336 days ago ·

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travel_vic · weak colts from the Dancer? He only commanded a million dollar NO GUARANTEE contract: the highest of all time. Breeders, ALL OVER THE WORLD, ran and did not walk, to a sire the likes of which has not been around in the past century. Grade one after grade on all over the world were won by his sons and daughters....Again you expose that you simply do not know what you are talking about as the was the greatest sire of the twnetieth century by ALL ACCOUNTS. · 336 days ago ·

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Cocoa2 · 1st, TV, F up. 2nd, read my comment again. This is not the first time and I doubt it will be the last where you read half of my comment and then your head blows up and you have to run outside before it explodes in your house. " even the strongest and fittest horses like Northern Dancer and Native Dancer will come up with weak colts when they show up too much in a pedigree". You know enough about horse racing to understand that even a Man O' War inbred colt would be weaker than a non inbred colt. You obviously have NO idea what you are saying and just like to show off your information that is not only rude but downright annoying. 3rd, who ever liked that comment (and I would bet more $ that it was TV liking his own comment than on Man O' War in a claiming race), F up as well. You obviously were too lazy to hit the 'Show All Comments' link and you need to do your homework before you jump on a bandwagon. 4th, Northern Dancer will NEVER be as great a sire as Man O' War. From covering less than 100 mares in his last years he produced an amazing amount of stakes winners. It was not Man O' War whose genes were not superior to keep up throwing the best colts, it was Riddle who refused to buy him quality mares to breed. You may have decades on me, but atleast I finish something before I jump on someone's throat. · 335 days ago ·

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GregRiessland · i remember roy he told everyone to bet gem and how hes the best blah, blah. and i remember saying i will stick with i'll have another. i never gave up on him after his saratoga flop and i wasn't going to stop in the triple crown. · 335 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · GregRiessland, I'm surprised at you, only a little though. Roy made some fantastic selections you must be confusing him with some one else. Keep em coming Roy. · 335 days ago ·

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shadowno · Cocoa2 if you read the 1st salvo directed your way you will see the dolt actually confirms your point regarding the inbreeding that has contracted and therefore weakened the gene pool. · 335 days ago ·

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Assault, Mr. Prospector, Secretariat, John Henry - June 1st

Assault became the seventh horse to win the Triple Crown, with a victory in the Belmont Stakes.Read More

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LongLiveBigRed · Two fo my favorite horses of all time mentioned today; Secretariat, of course, and John Henry, winner of the first and fourth Arlington Million (1981, 1984). · 357 days ago ·

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Four in a Row for Forego

One of his greatest achievements was winning the Woodward Stakes in four consecutive years beginning in 1974.Read More

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BrianZipse · Forego wins four consecutive Woodwards ... What is a thoroughbred racing feat that will never be repeated, Alex? · 635 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · One neat fact, is that Forego loaded into the gate in the Kentucky Derby next to Secretariat. They would win HOY 5 times between the two of them. · 635 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · Hey, great point CauseForConcern! The amazing 70's ended with Seattle Slew and Affirmed twice as HOY. · 635 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · When I look at the great Woodward's of the past it really makes me appreciate the past and the grat horses that USED to run in this race. · 634 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · I agree LAZMANNICK: Forego (4 wins), Kelso (3), Cigar (2), Curlin, Holy Bull, Easy Goer, Rachel, Skip Away, Slew O' Gold (2), Alysheba, Seattle Slew, Affirmed, Spectacular Bid, Precisionist, Damascus, Buckpasser, WHAT A LIST!!! · 634 days ago ·

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johnsnare · What I have to say about Forego? Amazing truly amazing. Not sure we will ever see another Forego. · 391 days ago ·

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Stallion Selection Matters

Bethany (Dayjur-Willamae, by Tentam), the dam of Met Mile (G1) winner Tizway, had good reasons for failing to produce a foal of any merit until her sixth season as a broodmare–I mean, besides her body refusing to cooperate in her fourth and fifth seasons. Or maybe she…Read More

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xMystix · Haha! This is quite a hilarious read. Hopefully, Bethany will find success again with Tiznow. If I read this piece correctly, she went back to Tiznow in 2010, so she should have foaled sometime this year? Does anyone know? · 724 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · A good read filled with a few good laughs. · 468 days ago ·

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Quantity and Quality

My last post emphasized the importance of the class of runners representing a given breeding method, as opposed to a high strike rate from opportunity. A conflict between the two arises, for example, in the case of foals that are by Malibu Moon and inbred to Mr. Prospector, which has yielded some fe...Read More

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Breeders’ Cup Classic: A tribute to two US breds that stay

Pedigree aficionados know that the determined Breeders’ Cup Classic winner Blame and the equally determined runner-up, that photogenic mare called Zenyatta, have similar bloodlines—a mixture of Roberto through Kris S. and Mr. Prospector. I’ve written about it here before. They were really the o...Read More

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THE WEEKENDER PEDIGREE: LOOKIN AT LUCKY

A month ago, neither the sponsor of this column nor the Paulick Report could have imagined the run of luck awaiting all of us in the May classics. In the intervening weeks, the Kentucky Derby winner Super Saver was out of a mare by Lane’s End stallion A.P. Indy, ...Read More

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Line of David - Kentucky Derby Pedigree Analysis

Line of David captured an exciting Arkansas Derby, but with a miler pedigree, will he go the Derby distance?Read More

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Future Derby Winner? Possible or Impazible?

Does Saturday's Louisiana Derby winner have the pedigree for a Derby win? Iron Maidens Thoroughbreds takes a look if this is truly a Mission Impazible?Read More

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humphrey · many WINNERS suppossedly did not have the pedigree. What the individual does, an NOTHING ELSE determines if they can win. · 1153 days ago ·

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Ironmaidens · I agree that pedigree is not the only determination of a Derby winner, but it is one tool among many that can help separate the pretenders from the contenders. A horses heart, temperament, conformation, soundness and training regimen, and how well the jockey fits the horse all play an important part. Then there's that little thing called luck. · 1153 days ago ·

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TripleCrownCoug · Many people want to knock Mission Impazible's stamina capabilities and they usually try to do it through his dam, using Forest Camp as the example. What many people fail to realize is that Forest Camp is the ONLY one of La Paz's seven winners who failed to win a race at one mile or farther. MI's other graded stakes winning half brother, Spanish Empire, won going 10 furlongs in Allowance company and competed in 10 furlong stakes races. · 1153 days ago ·

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horses · Agree that the jury is still out on Mission Impazible. · 1152 days ago ·

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humphrey · Until each and every three year old enters and runs a 9 frulong race, you will not have a handle of what will happen the first Satruday in May..I would also discount the syntogarbage races. · 1152 days ago ·

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cigar · Syntogarbage... hilarious. · 1152 days ago ·

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The Mighty Forego

It was May 18, 1974, the day of the Carter Handicap at Belmont Park. As I looked at the tote board, I couldn't believe the odds. Favored at 7-5 was Forego, who obviously was running in the Carter strictly as a prep for the Metropolitan Handicap, having come off back-to-back victories at 1 1/4 miles ...Read More

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Researching a Smart Pedigree

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Best Derby Pedigrees

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cigar · Pedigrees don't matter once they've already started running! You assess their ability to go longer based upon how they're finishing up in their races. · 1494 days ago ·

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mdracing69 · The Belmont Stakes is probably one of the last dirt races that breeding still matters. That's why the Triple Crown is so hard to pull off. · 1494 days ago ·

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