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Tough Tizs Sis

8 year old Mare | Retired

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Watson and Weitman Performances

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Bob Baffert

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Tiznow - Leaseholder by Taylors Falls

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7.53/10

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Who Has Zenyatta Beaten?

Nineteen up, nineteen down. Zenyatta has done it all. Her quest for a pair of perfect 10s comes in a few weeks at Churchill Downs with the world watching in the Breeders' Cup Classic. But there is an undeniable question standing in her way to 20 consecutive victories -- the competition. Even the mos...Read More

Source: sports.espn.go.com · Posted 584 days ago ·

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humphrey · The clock, energy dynamics of pace. the traditonal positional proclivities of the deep closer and EVERY pace thrown at her....The particulars are not any different than that · 584 days ago ·

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humphrey · Bloodhorse has a good article about her http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/wgoh/archive/2010/10/19/lost-opportunities-by-eric-mitchell.aspx · 584 days ago ·

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medlocke · Looks like a pretty respectable group to me. Both male and female alike. Plus, the field she'll face in the 2010 Breeders Cup Classic will only serve to strengthen that list. I challenge any horse, male or female, to give away the weight that Zenyatta has given away so many times in so many races, and see if they still come up undefeated under those taxing circumstances? It's almost unheard of for a deep closer, more often than not, saddled with a boulder while the competition carries a brick, to be able to find the wire every time first without failure. Zenyatta's drive, and refuse to lose attitude is second to none in the sport, worldwide. This mare can run all day long. Stamina will be her deadliest weapon at Churchill Downs. I think both Quality Road and Blame, off of his JCGC run, are suspect at best to not fade at 1-1/4. I think it's likely Lookin At Lucky could prove to be her strongest opposition. But provided that Mike Smith does his job correctly, and times the ride correctly, I think her shear power and closing onslaught will prove too much for all in the race. As I said before, let other horses try giving away the weight that Zenyatta has given on a regular basis. Then see how their lifetime record comes out? Unbelievable that this mare, given her running style, and handicaps in races is still a perfect 19 for 19. Make no mistake. What Zenyatta has already accomplished is history making. If she win's this year's Breeders Cup Classic? It will be legendary for all-time. JMO. · 584 days ago ·

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wildwestzona · I would love to see them do this same list for Rachel's competition. If a horse dominates the FEMALE CLASIC, Wins The BCC, beats Switch (who beat blind luck), beats the horse Zardana(that Rachel lost to), and is 19-0 over a 3 year period - then I don't care if the races are on concrete against donkey's, that is one heck of a career and IMO makes her the greatest female in American Sports Racing History. · 584 days ago ·

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wildwestzona · Forgot to mention: REGAL RANSOM who beat BLAME people. SUMMER BIRD who was voted 2009 MALE champion people!!! GIOPONTI who is the best MALE turf horse in America. · 584 days ago ·

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luvzenyatta · There's that ugly symbol again. I agree totally that Rachel should not ever have a 1 rating, but at this point in Zenyatta's undefeated 19 for 19 career she should never have a red down arrow next to her name. No excuses or explanations accepted:) · 584 days ago ·

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luvzenyatta · Z haters: Repeat after me, 19 for 19, 19 for 19, 19 for 19. There's no denying the greatness of this accomplishment. · 584 days ago ·

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bob46 · Z tea drinkers, repeat after me, Horse of the Year RA, horse of the year RA, horse of the year RA, Poly Lover Zenyatta, Poly lover Zenyatta, Poly lover Zenyatta, · 583 days ago ·

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Skyharbor21 · No one wanted to race her for 2nd at the Apple Blossom. Surely the east coast fillies who excel on dirt would have stepped up to take her on. But no one wanted to get beat, that includes RA. · 583 days ago ·

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perimeters · bob46, Rachel Alexandra did win 2009 Horse of the Year, but she probably ran the weakest campaign of any defending Horse of the Year in 2010. Understand your track surfaces. Zenyatta does not seem to care for Del Mar's Polytrack surface but she wins anyway. She has also won two Grade 1 races on regular dirt, and numerous others on Hollywood's Cushion Track and Santa Anita's Pro-Ride. Since you seem enamoured with Rachel, where was you princess when Zenyatta was romping in the 2010 Apple Blossom? · 583 days ago ·

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cugel the clever · LOL - Pathetic to see the zenyphiles defending the supposed "strength" of last year's BCC field. I notice the poll of the day asks who you like to win the Mile, and the great Gio Ponti, who Z beat last year gets only 11% of the vore for 4th place and he isn't even good enough for his connections to enter him in the Classic this year! Yup, Z sure did beat some strong competion last year..... · 583 days ago ·

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mdracing69 · cugel, I read that Gio Ponti is going to be pre-entered in the BC Mile and Classic. “At the moment our intention is to enter in both the races,” Stuart Fitzgibbon, commercial manager at Castleton-Lyons, said Thursday afternoon. · 583 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I just can't understand why when you have a great mare and a great filly in the same your need for bashing one or the other. 2009 was a great year for the ladies,Zenyatta beat a very strong field in the classic and the woodward was the most brutal race I've ever seen run. Not one horse who ran in the Woodward is running today and not by choice.Every horse in that race took a shot at her and she put them all away.Getting back to Zenyatta 19-0 is a feat not likely to be seen again.Personally I think she she runs it up to 20 no problem.When you chase a horse a good as Gio Ponti out of entering a race that says volumes about just how good she is. · 583 days ago ·

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zilzal89 · The play over here will be to take the 4-1 Zenyatta now, i will probably be able to lay her at much reduced odds come postime. What do all you folks over there think of the pace of the race?? as it looks set up for the closers here · 583 days ago ·

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medomoreno · I find it sad to witness pettiness regarding this issue. In my opinion, any race including Gio Ponti, Blame, Quality Road, Haynesfied, and Lookin' At Lucky is a helluva race; throw in Zenyatta: WOW!!! Sit back & enjoy. The goal is to win, and for any stretch-runner that translates into: getting up in time. Zenyatta's closest margins of victory have been in races in which the 6 Furlong splits have been: 1:13.06, 1:15.11 [sic], 1:13.64. Does anybody really think that in this coming race we're gonna see a 1:15 split??? · 580 days ago ·

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humphrey · EVERY horse that dared go into the gate with her. · 580 days ago ·

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medomoreno · I find it sad to witness pettiness regarding this issue. In my opinion, any race including Gio Ponti, Blame, Quality Road, Haynesfied, and Lookin' At Lucky is a helluva race; throw in Zenyatta: WOW!!! Sit back & enjoy. The goal is to win, and for any stretch-runner that translates into: getting up in time. Zenyatta's closest margins of victory have been in races in which the 6 Furlong splits have been: 1:13.06, 1:15.11 [sic], 1:13.64. Does anybody really think that in this coming race we're gonna see a 1:15 split??? · 580 days ago ·

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curlin · I have a question to the zenyatta "haters": Do you want her to get beat? I understand you feel she is overrated but, would you not love to see her win? If she were to win she'd be undoubtably a top 5 horse all time. Do you not want to see history? I'm of the group that this year does nothing but add to her legacy. IMO even if she loses she is still an all time great. I just don't see how people can root against her. I was never a fan of RA but I always wanted her to win. Mainly because it would look better when zenyatta beat her. (now we won't get a chance to see that happen). It is just unbelievable to me how you can root against her. · 580 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · this prior bcc10, blame proved himself to be a very worthy horse in nosing out zenyatta, albeit on his home track, and a surface more familiar to him than to zen. you could say now that he is the best horse she has met in the classic on dirt, but the always game and underappreciated gio ponti should remain right at the top of the list due to his versatility, and the fact that he did as well against goldikova as he did against zenyatta. quality road, haynesfield, musket man should be put way down around 18, 19, 20, as all 3 of them were non-factors in this classic. fly down could probably be moved into about the 11th position. i'd put espoir city in at about 15th or so. lookin' at lucky could be considered at about 10th. · 492 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · in addition, you can see that she has faced the best horses available at least once, that didn't refuse to face her, considering her races were announced well in advance. · 492 days ago ·

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trenchtownrock · Really?....I think that should answer it. · 492 days ago ·

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medlocke · CraigBradshaw, I totally agree. Maybe Zenyatta didn't face the boys as often as myself or many others may have liked? But the one thing you can say is that when she did face the boys, she faced the very best of the best that raced on turf, synthetics, and conventional dirt. And found only one that was able to run a big enough race to withstand her closing kick by mere inches on his home track. A racetrack that Blame had dominated many other G1 winning males throughout his career. Don't get me wrong, I think Blame is a fantastic colt. A real talent that had a great career. But when you can say that you raced 22 of the very best colt's in the world on both synthetics and conventional dirt, and defeated 21 of them soundly, there's certainly no shame in that. If Zenyatta had faced males more often than she face them in her career, would she have more than one loss? Very probably. But I will say that she was a dominant enough race-mare that I don't believe she would've defeated in her division any more often than Goldikova ever get's defeated in hers. TJMO. · 492 days ago ·

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lewpe · Oldest males horses to win the BC Classic were 5 years old. Zenyatta, at 6 years old, takes on 4 year olds in their prime and still puts in a phenomenal performance. She may not have raced many races against the males but as medlocke states she did, indeed, beat 21 of the best soundly. She deserves credit for that. She deserves credit for beating the remaining field in the 2010 BC Classic as well. Her prior 2010 races may have been considered prep races but, as another post states, she gave up weight to lesser experienced opponents to even the odds. She did, in fact, run two very close races which I saw first hand against Switch and Lethal Heat. It's interesting but sad to see the ugly posts that are swirling here which is why I've stayed away. There is a horse for their time and Zenyatta is the horse of our time. She brought renewed interest to the sport for those who have never attended as well as for those of us like myself who have been going to horse racing events for over 30 years. It's exciting to see people genuinely excited again about horse racing. And, it has given us renewed hope in the industry. · 487 days ago ·

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medlocke · Look, did Zenyatta run against the boys as often as we all wanted to see her run against them? Probably not. But when you've raced in back to back Breeders Cup Classics, on two different surfaces, against 22 of the very best colt's in the world that raced on turf, synthetics, and conventional dirt. One can hardly say Zenyatta dodged anybody. And she proved herself better than 21 of the 22 best colt's in the world. Only losing by mere inches to a colt in Blame that was more dominant on the CD track than any other horse in racing has been in the past 2 seasons. JMO. · 454 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · medlocke:Zenyatta ? She won horse of the year for 2010 and went on to mate with Bernardini? This is March 1, 20011 the voting is over wake up, the voting actually took place and she won. Go back to sleep it was just a bad dream. · 454 days ago ·

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Thead'or · This argument is a joke. For some odd Reason every Zenyatta convo somehow has to mention RA's accomplishments. Why? A horse that she never faced, and never will seems to play a questionably big part in her career. Its not who the horses Rachel Alexandra beats, its how she beat them. In the Woodward ANY horse would have gone flat like a cheap tire after the fractions she set. Any 3 year-old filly running in this race [Wait has that ever happened before?] Would have not been anywhere near this field heading for home. She wasn't any 3 year-old filly. Her accomplishments where so far and beyond at that age and gender people got carried away. Trying to pick out minor things, fact is she never let us down that year. Her owners paid the price for it, but we got to see hints of what was of 2009 in 2010. · 453 days ago ·

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footlick · Can we just stop! Why tear down either animal. Let's move on. Please!!!!! · 453 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · not trying to dredge up old arguments, but if you read the list, plus the 12 males she finished ahead of in the bcc11, she bettered 30+ G1 winners in her career. · 263 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · CraigBradshaw: Most were running on her track for the first time(synthetic). You want to come to my house? I'll beat you anytime you wanna play basketball. Don't know if I can beat you at your house, but, then that's another story. · 263 days ago ·

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WesWhite · Goldikova bested almost as many Grade 1 winners in 1 year. Laughable. · 263 days ago ·

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HORSEFACE · CauseForConcern.....AMan.... she was a synthetic specialist...!!! just average away from home. · 263 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · medlocke: You stated that Zenyatta won back-to-back BC's on two different surfaces. She won both BC's at the same track, same surface. · 263 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Whats pitiful is that you people had to go back 190 days to start another lame argument between ztchtes · 263 days ago ·

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TimSmith · Seriously MOVE ON.. There are two sides to this argument and neither ever gives in.. Quit being pathetic and move on. · 263 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · ww, cfc, horseface.....three teenyboppers still throwing spitwads at a horse. weakest arguments i've ever seen. · 262 days ago ·

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RamonDimas · she beat the best males horses in the U.S. · 262 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · and, several G1 winning females, and the best at the time, ginger punch, for a total of well over 40 G1 horses beat by z. · 258 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · IMO she did NOT face the best Turf horses in 2009, if the best Turf Horses raced her Sea The Stars would have won, Conduit could have won, Fame and Glory could have won, Henry the navigator could have won. beating Twice over at 3, RVW @3 ( rode completely wrong in that race up close) is not convincing enough to me that she beat the so called BEST. The BEST raced in the ARC, and the BC Turf, and stuck to their disciplines, and watch the race again to see Gio Ponti have a horrid trip until he found room at the 16th pole. JMO. · 243 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Plus with all due respect to Blame(who is a champion Dirt Horse) who did she race in last years BCC that was a legitimate 10f horse? Musket man?, Espoir City?, First Dude(maybe this year before retiring) Paddy O'Prado?, Quality Road(love him to death, and was injured during the race). The only 10f horses finished in the top 4. That Field was not as loaded as people would like to think, in regards to legitimate 10 f horses. But Zenyatta still had a tremendous record, and regardless if she raced vs fillies/Mares 95% of the time she still won 18 races in that regard. Hell of a record. · 243 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @MarcelloMarocco: With all due respect, Sea The Stars, Conduit, Henry the Navigator, Fame and Glory did not show up, Zenyatta did. It's pretty odd how many horses didn't show up or retired rather than face her. As far as losing to Blame by eight inches that was one of the best races I've ever watched regardless of the out come. Running down a great closer in his own right (Blame) is no small accomplishment. Some trainers who feel she could run with the best ever are, Allen Jerkens, Nick Zito, Bob Baffert, John Nerud etc. As with all posts they tend to be very subjective so I believe in time her greatness will be more appreciated. Have a nice day. · 243 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · Marcello, get your gender right. · 243 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Cause for Concern- What Gender would yo be refering too?.... When I said She it was Zenyatta I spoke of. Read more carefully. · 239 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Icy - Yes the horses I listed ran in the ARC, and BC Turf(conduit). These horses run 12f, not 10. Sea The stars beating Zenyatta would have proved nothing after the field he beat in the ARC. Not to mention that they don't run 10f on synthetics, nor do they run 10f period. 12f is the distance of preference. · 239 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · They do run 10f, but 12f is the classic distance, and most of the Major races are mostly run at that distance · 239 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @MarcelloMarocco : I don't need any lessons on horse racing especially as redundant as your are! · 239 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Icyhotboo- Ahhhh whats wrong?....hate hearing the truth?....redundent...Lol...hardly · 226 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · I never new Correcting myself was considered be redundant?.... · 226 days ago ·

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