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Johannesburg - St. Michele by Devil's Bag

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Trinniberg decision makes little sense

Life is full of decisions. Big and small, each decision helps shape the path we travel down a day from now, a month from now, and even for years to come. Unlike humans, thoroughbred race horses have a majority of their decisions made for them. The path they ultimately lead is shaped by their connect...Read More

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ambitiousD · I couldn't agree more. This is a prime example of the flaw in the KD entries being determined by graded earnings. All I can do is hope the horse comes out of the race OK and continues with a prosperous sprinting career. · 36 days ago ·

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MjHawk · Well done, Brian. I agree with you, and it saddens me. · 36 days ago ·

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hshfarms · It seems like Mike Repole is managing this horse's racing career. · 36 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · This is the flaw of the graded earnings only qualification system. However a trainer/owner should show concern for the future of their talented runner. · 36 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · You know what? Why not? If he is able to run away fast enough, he's got a shot, and please let him help burn out Bode. I will be honest, even though it is immature, however human to say that I am not standing him more by the minute, as I love Creative Cause. · 36 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · I agree why not? there is no set path to the race that is the reason to have proper management. Hes got the dough so in he goes. · 36 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · It may be pure evil that I want to use him for his speed. I'll think about this. · 36 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · This is an example of a big change in the Derby since I have been following horse racing. Today the Derby is like the NCAA basketball tournament, the goal for many basketball teams is just to make the tournament, even though they will lose to Duke or Kentucky in the first round. It is the same with some horse owners, they just want to be in the race. The problem is that a horse like Trinniberg could win some big races and a lot of money if it is not ruined by running in a tough race like the Derby. · 36 days ago ·

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ruffian65 · I agree...just because he qualified to be in by graded earnings is not in his best interest. The derby is a tough grueling congested race and will its toll on horses like Trinninberg...sad they are the ones who will suffer just to inflate an owners ego....to say "I have a derby horse" Very sad. · 36 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · best interst? so he gets tired at the quarter pole and finishes 11th? Who Cares. But what if he runs for 2 minutes and wins. I dont see the harm . Id take the chance. · 36 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Not one horse entered has gone that far yet. Therefore not one horse is guaranteed to get the distance in a time suitable for winning. What if he goes 2:04.0 and not one horse can get there faster, he wins. The worst that an happen is to discover, hey this guy can,t get the classic n/a distance. Since 19 other horses are going to lose why single him out since as of now their all unknown quantities. Let him try, he qualified as opposed to a clunker like Optimizer who couldn't and his trainer still wants in with no credible threat. If races were run on paper you'd have a valid point but since theey are not, let them run it out. · 36 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I shouldn't have to refresh the page to give myself a "like." Cocao2 how do you do it so easy? · 36 days ago ·

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JohnBravo · On paper it is a terrible decision. But I'm not in their shoes. If I was the owner of a horse who had some talent the chance as slim as it might be to run in The Derby might never come again. Keep in mind just when we think we have everything figured out horses as recent as Giacomo and Mine That Bird win this race. Results like these give these owners to opportunity to dream · 36 days ago ·

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toveracker1 · This makes me think that someone who has a horse that likes to come from behind on a fast pace may have influenced the owners to enter Trinniberg in the Derby. · 36 days ago ·

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gocashking · The answer to all the "why not"s is this: Because he has NO shot. ZERO. ZIP. ZILCH. This horse will be searching for an oxygen tent after 7/8 of a mile. Do any of you TRULY believe he can finish any better than 15th? Really? C'mon.....get serious. · 36 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · Who cares..19 will lose. Icy said that. He has the Earnings .. All the others who never qualified should have chose smarter races if thay wanted there horse in. · 36 days ago ·

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JenniferWeigand · To all the people saying "who cares" and "let him run," you're right. It's the decision of the owner and he may never get to the Derby again. BUT, the race is 2 turns at a mile and a quarter...something this horse has YET to do. You don't just throw a horse to the wolves first time going 2 turns in the Kentucky Derby of all races! I can't stand when owners say they have the best interest of their horse at heart and then pull something like this just to get the fame. This horse can get you a TON of fame if you let him run in Graded Sprints for the rest of the year! Oh, but people don't want to hear that their horse is a sprinter. It just makes me angry. Hopefully, they don't break this horse down and crush his spirit in their 15 minutes of fame. · 36 days ago ·

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hshfarms · This makes absolutely no sense on the owners part... I definitely understand the owner's wanting to be a part of the derby... But why with a horse that has zero chance of winning. I will abmit to being a strong believer in Uncle Mo, a horse that many on here claim to have no shot at 10f, he at least worked towards the distance some in his spring preps, what Repole/Pletcher did in the BC Classic was just stupid. And that is exactly what these owners are. As Mary said, this horse will only be able to set a fast early pace, there is no way he can hang on to it the entire race. These are animals, not robots, they have limits. I'm not saying this horse will never be able to get 10f, just not on the first Saturday in May, he has not been trained to be able to get it. · 36 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · NEWS FLASH..not 1 single horse has run a mile and a quarter.. And lets be realistic half the field may not have a chance. Does he have less of a shot than done talking or liason? He has the earnings so He is In. · 36 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · If you want to write an article about something that not only makes no sense but is seriously wrong with a particular horse entered in the Kentucky Derby that could not only be injured but killed along with the jockey's you could have picked Bodemeister or Hansen these are two far better horses to pick than Trinniberg. Neither horse can rate. If either of these horses draw the #1 PP they will be running straight into a solid metal fence. Why is this when everyone is so concerned with the horses welfare? Let me take a guess, money. I think so, otherwise there are remedies to fix this serious situation that haven't and won't be applied. How about an article on this since were all so concerned about the horses welfare but not anything as mundane as money. Why not close HRN down for the Kentucky Derby week prior including the weekend of the running in protest of this extremely serious situation. Now this makes sense to me a first step by a responsible organization for the welfare of the horses. Sure you'll lose money but what's that compared to possibly saving lives. The membership will only esteem you all the more. · 35 days ago ·

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notobsessed · @icyhotboo, so you are saying the #1 post is extremely dangerous? · 35 days ago ·

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buckpasser · Just for a little historical perspective, Morvich who was considered a speed horse won all of his races as a two yr old and earned top honors. His first start as a threeyr old was the Kentucky Derby. Ben Block and ER Bradley had a private bet that Morvich could not get the distance as he was just a sprinter. Bradley sent out three horses and Morvich took the lead at the start and sprinted home. He developed leg problems and lost his next starts and was later retired. So why shouldn't Trinniberg run. Maybe he will win. Maybe he won't . Why shouldn't his connections try. He is a nice horse. I am sure everyone laughed at Lil e tee, Mine that bird, proud Clarion, Cananero II, Dark Star beating Native Dancer, Gallhadion beating Bimelech. The history of the Kentucky Derby is filled with the names of the wrong horses who won. After all Aristedes sprinted to win the first derby. He was a rabbit brought in to set the pace for his stablemate Chesapeake . · 35 days ago ·

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notobsessed · Probably not the best place to try him at a longer distance, but who knows?,he might be able to do it · 35 days ago ·

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RettaYoung · While the derby is one of those races that pretty much anything can happen, I would still think this is a ridiculous idea. Sure no other horse may have run this far either but the fact remains that they are much better equipped to run this distance. Being one of the biggest races in America its just a bad decision both for business and for the horse to test his endurance in such a big race. Sure they have a small chance of all conditions permit, to win, but he has a much bigger chance to showcase the bad decisions of the stable in front of millions of people. I count him out but I think if Hansen's "entourage" doesn't co · 35 days ago ·

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Longshotking · should have got him for the preakness...he could have pulled off a shackelford · 35 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Shackleford should have never won the Preakness after just about stopping in the KD. Bad decision to run him, he never won again to the best of my knowledge. Just a terrible thing to do to a racehorse, actually race him. · 35 days ago ·

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KenBetts · Think you hit with the Kentucky Derby human factor, hpe he recovers · 35 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · Good points, icy. Why is there a post position that horses can't or at least haven't won out of in a 20 horse field? Or has there been a winner out of the 1 hole since the fields got so large? And yes, there are many comments about it being abusive to run a horse for one reason or the next. Some valid, others not. Why can't Who knows if Trinniberg might not lope along for most of the race, then do his sprinting in the last 4-5f? Not what I'm hoping for, which is that he adds fuel to the burn out fire, but it could happen that way. · 35 days ago ·

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timgsmith10 · Race HORSE.....ok? So you do what? Race them. Insert Sarcasm anywhere. · 35 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · I missed your earliest comment, icy, but to get likes I either add drop dead stupid comments and get "likes of pity", or I add some funny content. Rarely I will like myself, like when I compared the '57 derby and this one by the fact that just like Shoemaker screwed up on the best horse Leparoux might as well. Apparently nobody shares my bad humor. · 35 days ago ·

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Grade II Winner Teuflesberg to Journeyman

Grade II winner Teuflesberg, whose first foals arrived this year, will stand the 2010 season at Brent and Crystal Fernung's Journeyman Stud in Ocala, Fla.Read More

Source: bloodhorse.com · Posted 1007 days ago ·

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Dominican Noses Way Into Derby Picture

by Jack Shinar Updated: April 18, 2007 Silverton Hill's Dominican moved into the Triple Crown picture when he came from well behind to nose Street Sense, last year's 2-year-old champion, on the wire of the $750,000 Toyota Blue Grass (gr. I) Saturday on the all-weather track at Keeneland. Read More

Source: tcm.bloodhorse.com · Posted 1215 days ago ·

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Street Sense Roars from Back in 2007 Kentucky Derby

A mile into the Kentucky Derby, all the other horses were motoring along in fourth gear when Street Sense kicked it into fifth. Then he zeroed in on his last challenger, Hard Spun, went wide, and burned up the final quarter-mile like a dragster. "After that," jockey Calvin Borel said, "it was just a...Read More

Source: sports.espn.go.com · Posted 1849 days ago ·

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