Ride
Sweet N Sour Nina
against other champions!

Sweet N Sour Nina

5 year old Mare | Active

0 fans

0 favorites

[Edit]

Owner(s):

John F. Buckley Jr. - Pennston Farms

Trainer:

Peter R. Walder

Bred:

Florida (USA) by Glen Hill Farm

Pedigree:

Sweetsouthernsaint - Openstock by Breeders Bonus

Rating:

5.91/10

Profile

Pedigree

Progeny

Siblings

Biography

News & Notes

Photos

What the Nation is saying about Sweet N Sour Nina...

Force Freeze Arrives at Gulfstream Park

Trainer Peter Walder watched the first of his horses arrive Monday at Gulfstream Park. The popular trainer, known for his claiming prowess, is also getting noticed these days for the job he did last year with Breeders’ Cup Sprint runner-up Force Freeze and the former claimer Sweet N Sour Nina. Clai...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 193 days ago ·

· Comment

Show All 0 Comments

A Weighty Issue in the Delaware Handicap

The Delaware Park Racing Secretary, Pat Pope, seems to be sending a few messages with his assignment of the weights for the track's premier race, the 2011 Delaware Handicap Read More

Posted 321 days ago ·

· Comment

Show All 69 Comments
cpsoren121 · OK, but does weight REALLY matter that much? The horse weighs 1100 lbs. For example, if you put a calculator in your backpack, do you feel it? Just my humble opinion... but point well taken on the weight assignments. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
horshumagu · Hollendorfer said they wouldn't run if they only got 1 pound, so 2 pounds was required to get this great matchup. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
zatt · Sure it does, Chris ... especially considering how close many of their contests have been in the past. Wouldn't that be called extortion, horshumagu? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
AndyScoggin · Don't know why we even bother having Handicaps anymore, as horses don't get shackled with weight like in the past. Handicap races have lost their meaning in today's let's all be friends world. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
horshumagu · No zatt, the trainer stated what he thought would be fair weights to be worth the trip east, no money exchange here, happens all the time. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
TimSmith · I think the weight assignments are right on. HDG at this moment is a peg in front of blind luck on the season. and seriously what is 2 pounds? For all intents and purpose they are equal weighted. Wait till Life at Ten pulls the shocker here then the dash to the ladies classic will really heat up! · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mary.schweitzer · I think 'Havre' should be weighted higher, although I think it probably should be 'just' one pound. What I find much more interesting, though, is that only *one* colt/older horse in Saturday's Hollywood Gold Cup carried anything close to either weight here.....Candy carried 122, the rest much less. Says quite a bit about the older horses running this season. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
stevebiscuit · Considering that Blind Luck had to concede 9 lbs in the Cotillion and 6 lbs in the Delaware Oaks I think the connections of Havre De Grace can bite the bullet in this instance. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
dubby30 · I have to respectfully disagree with the thought that a horse with 5 less Grade 1 wins and a million or so less in earnings should be conceding weight to Blind Luck. In the perfect world the horse with 6 Grade 1 wins and the million more in earnings should be carrying about 3-5 lbs more. But I guess that something is different in this scenerio. Looks like Hollendorfers' posturing and nominating to 3 or 4 different races accomplished the goal he was looking to achieve. Unfortunately it wont help much on the Track Saturday. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
LAZMANICK · Dubby.............Quit being a cry baby and quit living in the past. By your own admission HDG is number one RIGHT NOW and the weights assigned are based on how the handicapper feels they line up RIGHT NOW. Personally, I think that now that BL is now back on track she should be carrying about five pounds more than HDG because she happens to be that much better. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
dubby30 · You should try comedy, I guess she should have been giving weight in the Azeri correct? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
BrianZipse · I am surprised by some of these comments ... so a trainer can decide what his horse's weight in a handicap should be, horshumagu? What a terrible message for the sport that is. It seems that Dubby30 is the voice of reason on this one ... One filly has 6 grade 1 wins, is a champion, and is in top form, yet carries 2 less pounds than a filly who has won a single grade 1, and has not been a champion. Hollendorfer called the shot, and got his way. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
dubby30 · It would seem that with Pope being the racing secretary at Oaklawn also, with that being my home track, one can only hope that Rick Porter and Fox Hill Farm continue to bring their horses to Oaklawn after a situation like this. Hollendorfer certainly played this perfectly, even though it may have cost him money to nominate to every other race available. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
TimSmith · 2 pounds means nothing. They are even in weight now let them settle it on the track. Im picking HDG. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
DeadHeat · They should be at equal weights. Yes HDG won the only meeting between the two this year, but as Brian pointed out BL has the edged of the distance and track, being that she has beaten HDG over this track and at this distance before. She also is supposed to be back to her form last year, so in all fairness the weights, if reflecting everything up to this point would be equal. Hollendorfer loses a lot of respect for doing this crap, even Zenyatta and her connections would allow her to carry higher weights. What Hollendorfer did was act like a spoiled child who wouldn't play if he didn't get his way, and that would have cost the sport a fantastic match up and continuation of the type of rivalry that the sport so rarely sees. He had no problem with shipping or weight last year. He felt she relished the travel and was the much superior, why the change now? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
TimSmith · I say easy on Hollendorfer at least she ships and runs often. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
LAZMANICK · Brian..........all joking aside, this isn't an allowance race based on whether a horse has won G1 races, etc., in the past. It's a handicap based on how the handicapper feels they would hit the wire. Obviously the handicapper feels that HDG is slightly better at equal weights and is assigning a token two pounds more. And to suggest that trainers have not played one race against another to get a better weight assignment. No I guess that has never happened before. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
dubby30 · I previously said that Tim until he ducked the Apple Blossom, that was foul. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
LAZMANICK · Dubby.....If I audition for comedy I can always use you as a reference. I may even use some of your material. Look at the nominations for various races. How many trainers nominate their horses for numerous races and many on the same day or the same weekend? Surely you can do better than that. And quit questioning a trainer (one with thousands of wins) and quit calling him a coward. The only exception I could possibly make for calling him a coward would be if he would have run in the G3 Obeah against optional claimers instead of the G1 Ogden Phipps against Awesome Maria. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
stevebiscuit · Geez, what a bunch of whiners! The weights have been assigned, get over it! If it ends in a dead heat, then it could be said that the weight made a slight difference. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
dubby30 · Sorry the Phipps was never said goal. Hollendofer in drf said they were running in the Apple Blossom until his filly was defeated by nearly 4 easy lengths in the Azeri, then its time to call an audible. keep trying though Lazm. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · Brian, just one week ago you laid out why you believe that Havre de Grace is "your favorite" among Blind Luck and Awesome Maria. You were able to seperate between Hd · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · Sorry....you were able to seperate between HdG and Blind Luck. So has Jason Shandler of Bloodhorse and Bill Finley of ESPN. In fact, the voters over at NTRA have been able to seperate these two horses rather easily. Now when the racing secretary of Delaware, HdG's own backyard mind you, offers the same sentiment you cry foul and whine. Brian, you can't have it both ways. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
BrianZipse · Vinnie ... who is my pick in this race? Havre De Grace is. What does that have to do with a bad situation, where a trainer calls out a weight scenario where his horse will or will not run, and then the track placates. Think if every trainer and track did that ... NOT GOOD for the sport. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
DeadHeat · It is not about who you think is best, it is who has the best credentials up till this point. It is about who is improving and who has the edge. BL has the better credentals and has the edge, so she should get the weight. She has the edge because she beat HDG over this track and distance. She is the one coming back into form when HDG has stayed where she was at the start of the season. Based on everything up to this point BL still hold the edge and should get the weight. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · Brian, just like Blame refusing to run in the Woodward last year because of equal weight with Quality Road. Heck, did John Shirreffs had to think over Zenyatta's weight for the Lady's Secret. I believed he mentioned that 129 lbs. was the highest he was going to go with her. And he got his wish. It happens. And if you train a six time Grade 1 winning horse you call the shots. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
DeadHeat · 129 is a good bit more than 122. At least he was willing to have Zen carry some weight. And where was the artical that quotes the connections of Blame refusing to run in the Woodward because of equal weights? Never saw anyone from that camp complaining about that. Heck they didn't complain when the mighty mare carried 3lbs less than them. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · DeadHeat - I absolutely agree with you that Blind Luck has the better credentials. Much better. However, it's not about what happened twelve months ago, but just a few months ago. That's why the NTRA has HdG with 10 first place votes versus just one for Blind Luck. And wasn't Brian Zipse giving out the 'half year HOY award' to HdG just recently as well? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
LAZMANICK · Dubby................HDG should have run in the Phipps. They decided early on that they would go in the easier race, the Obeah, which even for a G3 was a total joke……………..As far as Blind Luck passing on the Apple Blossom. The Azeri was her 12th race in 13 months including her third race this year and she was tired. The Azeri showed that. The Apple Blossom would have been 13 races in 14 months which would have included several trips back and forth across the country and her forth race of the year. In the meantime HDG was fresh for the Azeri and the AB would have been her second race with very little travel. And it's not as if they ran Blind Luck in a different race that weekend instead of the Apple Blossom or the following weekend for that matter. They didn't run again for an additional 6 weeks. In the meantime. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
andiggs · All this back and forth banter will prove to be meaningless in a few months when Awesome Maria proves she's better than both of them. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · NYV says, : "I'm not Senclair, but I played him on t.v." word for word · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - again, who is Senclair? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
BikinMike444 · Anyone lookig at Tiz Miz Sue with ten pound weight break from HDG. Anyone?? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · andiggs - Who's Awesome Maria? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · Sen/Vin, someone who misspells "separate" as seperate just like you/twin. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · I wouldn't mind NOT ever seeing your negative remarks about Ruffian ever again. I left your name off of my ntra comment, for now. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
BrianZipse · Sorry BikinMike444 ... I am not with you on that one. I enjoyed the comment by andiggs, I don't agree, but I enjoyed it. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
ckrisp · If HdG beats BL people will herald her all the more for carrying two lbs extra.IMO, if you really think the 2 lbs is going to make or break HdG, then you must not have much faith in her. I didn't hear Twirling Candy's owner attributing his loss in the HGC to the 6 lb weight allowance he gave First Dude. May the best horse win · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - it's just New York Vinnie. Not Sen. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · Great, NYV, So even though ALL of your words,phrasing, and the misspelling were identical, okay whatever you say, but we're done with the negative Ruffian comments. All of them. Deal? That's my price, sorry. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
ckrisp · If HdG beats BL people will herald her all the more for carrying two lbs extra.IMO, if you really think the 2 lbs is going to make or break HdG, then you must not have much faith in her. I didn't hear Twirling Candy's owner attributing his loss in the HGC to the 6 lb weight allowance he gave First Dude. May the best horse win · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - Deal? about what? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · No more negative, disgusting Ruffian comments and I drop it. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - You've really lost me. There have been some people whom have quoted me or used my information only because it's facts. And I'm sorry if the facts offend you. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · NYV,Two people that use the exact phrasing and misspell the same word, indicating no spell-check on their computer who both say hateful things about Ruffian(one of them attempts to hide their feelings, but not that well) is enough for me. We'll see how this plays out. Bye. P.S. Go Yankees. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - OK, I'll help you. I don't want you to call it an evening thinking about it all night. I am truthful about being Senclair. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · I know. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · sorry - but I wasn't truthful about not knowing him. He's my younger brother living in Seattle, WA. We both came from New York but he decided to travel to the West Coast. However, we do share many of the same thoughts and go back and forth sharing them. However, I'm the more 'factual' one when discussing horses such as Ruffian. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · excuse - "of NOT being Senclair". Also, he's a member of Red Sox nation. I'm not. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · You have a disgusting way of putting some of those "facts", NYV. You also contradict yourself for example including or not including the match race as it suits you. And it was very distasteful to disrespect Ruffian on the anniversaries. Brother? You both have computer programs without spell-check? Come on. I know you just don't want me to tell the ladies about this and I can't blame you. You don't have a good reason to continue your negativity and I just mean about Ruffian, so ? · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
icyhotboo · I don't think 5 or 10 lbs on an 1100lb makes any difference at all.I know ,Im an idiot right.Think about this though.How often is the high weight in a handicap not the betting favorite? Not often which says money players do not believe that weight is a big factor · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - please give me an example of contradicting myself about the 'match race'. Again, if facts offend you there's not much I can do to help you. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · icy, It makes a difference if the horse you pick to win is carrying the higher weight and it loses by a small margin. Then, everyone will use that excuse, including me,lol. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - however, you are right on one account. Perhaps we should slow down a bit when transfering information. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
icyhotboo · Theoretical arguements are a waste of time as no proof can be offered pro or con just like religion. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · NYV, I need more than that. No more disgusting, negative comments about Ruffian. I mean do you realize that you said Foolish Pleasure taught her a lesson? Or, I know you gave some graphic description of her injury to "prove" your theory or anti-theory that she was ahead. I don't care about that point, but your description was not necessary and not the words of an animal lover, and you know it. As far as "Senclair" trying to hide his well, hatred may be too strong of a word, I saw right through that months ago. "I liked Ruffian, BUT" I'm sure he only backed down after he saw he was in the minority. I don't respect that, either. I can respect truth without the disgusting negativity, but you over-taxed my limit of your "facts" this past anniversary week. Oh, yah, I just love the hit and run digs about the Yankees. Tell "Senclair" to stick around sometime. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · NYV, Your contradiction? On one thread you include the race and on another you don't. And you already knew this. Back to HDG and Blind Luck. See ya. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
Dingo · I am for Life At Ten in this race. She must repeat what I did last year so easily. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
andiggs · @New York Vinnie: Who's Awesome Maria? Pretty ironic that was the same question people were saying about Blame at this point last year. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
MarkRodriquez · Check out Blind Luck on youtube: Blind Luck hollywood Starlet; Blind Luck La Troienne; Blind Luck vanity. Blind Luck has brought me back to the races again after Zenyatta's retirement. Her heart is as big as Zenyatta's only her body is much smaller. Kick ass Blind Luck, show the east coast again that THE BEST HORSE IS ON THE WEST COAST FOR THE 4TH STRAIGHT YEAR. · 321 days ago ·

like

0

0
dubby30 · This is the video of the 2011 Azeri Stakes. Look and see how far Blind Luck is at the wire. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yz2qblkaL4 · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
TimSmith · All questions will be answered shortly. Go Life at Ten throw a wrench right into things. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
KyOaksRunner · I hope it's a close 1-2-3 finish with Life At Ten close up as well as Blind Luck and Havre de Grace. I'll be rooting Blind Luck. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - you are hopeless. Please don't accuse me of something I not guilty of. Please. Just the facts. I asked for an example and you give me accusations. Here's some advice for you...don't get into trouble because in a court of law you don't stand a chance. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · andiggs - ok, I can see the analogy. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
MarkRodriquez · Check out Blind Luck on youtube: Blind Luck hollywood Starlet; Blind Luck La Troienne; Blind Luck vanity. Blind Luck has brought me back to the races again after Zenyatta's retirement. Her heart is as big as Zenyatta's only her body is much smaller. Kick ass Blind Luck, show the east coast again that THE BEST HORSE IS ON THE WEST COAST FOR THE 4TH STRAIGHT YEAR. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · NYV, sen, john?? I was going to drop this, but you just brought it back up. Are you talking about your contradiction? One thread you count the race, the other thread, you say you don't. Look up The threads under that horse's name. I'm not copying and pasting. Done. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
New York Vinnie · mrsmary - you proven my point. I always thought you were emotionally driven by the tragic death of Ruffian. Just like some others here. You're consumed and obsessive behavior towards anyone that questions anything about Ruffian is actually disturbing and troubling. Perhaps therapy is your anwer. · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0
mrsmaryzinke · Are you going to get therapy for your obsession over me? LOL. At least I am going overboard in my praise of a horse as opposed to you going overboard in your discrediting of that horse. I already told" brother"-dear good night, so nighty-night, dear.Vin, I will be busy picking horses from tomorrow until at least Friday. When are YOU going to drop it? · 320 days ago ·

like

0

0

Jones Eyes HOY for Havre De Grace

Larry Jones has been fortunate enough to train some very talented fillies—Eight Belles, Island Sand, Proud Spell, and Wildcat Bettie B are among them. But according to Jones, Havre de Grace might not just be the most talented, she could be the best horse—male or female—he’s ever had in his barn.“It’...Read More

Source: bloodhorse.com · Posted 354 days ago ·

· Comment

Show All 1 Comments
dubby30 · Most talented horse in America hands down, I think she will breeze on Saturday and trounce the field in the Delaware Oaks, and then bring on the boys. She's that good. · 354 days ago ·

like

0

0

Successful Song Heads Monmouth Beach

Two talented and consistent fillies head the field of eight distaffers entered to contest Sunday’s $75,000 Monmouth Beach Stakes at one mile and 70 yards, and there’s not a lot to separate them. Successful Song, bred and owned by Live Oak Plantation, has been second in both her starts this ye...Read More

Source: horseracingnation.com · Posted 380 days ago ·

· Comment