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Point Given

14 year old Horse | Retired
Owner(s):
Thoroughbred Corporation
Trainer:
Bob Baffert
Bred:
Kentucky (USA) by
Pedigree:
Thunder Gulch  -  Turkos Turn  by  Turkoman
Rating:
 
 
Point Given at Stud
Three Chimneys Farm
Point Given captures the 2001 Belmont Stakes by 12 lengths
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What the Nation is saying about Point Given...

Over the past few years one of the biggest angles a horseplayer uses in order to figure what horse could become a potential Derby horse, or even a top three-year-old, is to discount any obvious two year old stars. Is this angle legit or is it a myth? Read More
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  • travel_vic · You missed Afleet Alex Street Sense but these again were exeptions while Success Express, and a myriad of Darrel Waynes' never did a thing at three · 52 minutes ago ·
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  • travel_vic · all at 120 or above in their Experimental Free Weight year and nada: High Counsel, Fairway Phantom, lets Don't Fight, Cast Party, Overtrump, OK By You, Pillaster, Hilco Scamper, Bio, Trapp Mountain, Tagel, Fast Ply etc etc · 41 minutes ago ·
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Sorry, but if you say Groundhog Day to me, I think of the 1993 Harold Ramis film titled the same, starring Bill Murray and Andie MacDowell, way before I think of the chubby rodent from somewhere in Pennsylvania. I like movies, what can I say. If you’ve never seen it, by all means rent it and hunker ...Read More
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  • cocoa2 · Let us hope Hansen doesn't break down as well. · 3 days ago ·
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  • HeatherSeiden · I love that movie!! · 2 days ago ·
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I have just finished reading the book Bred to Run, by Mike Helm. It is about Mike’s account of a one-week visit to Claiborne Farm in 1992. In a 1:1 interview with Seth Hancock, Helm indirectly asked, why is there no stamina in US bloodstock anymore? Seth had some very interesting theories, one of wh...Read More
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  • cugel the clever · Simple law of supply and demand. Most of the big-money and big-prestige races are at 10 furlongs or less. The biggest races on the calendar for older horses and late-year 3yo races should be at 12 furlongs or more. That would certainly bring stamina back into the breeding and training philosophy of the sport. · 4 days ago ·
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  • cugel the clever · A good start would be to move the Pacific Classic, Santa Anita Handicap, Breeders Cup Classic, and Travers to 12 furlongs; and to make the BC Marathon one of the premier races with a purse of at least 2 million dollars instead of its current status as a freak show novelty race which attracts grade 3 stakes winners and optional claimers. · 4 days ago ·
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Who are the best of the best of the first dozen years of the 21st century? Help me decide...Read More
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  • racingrooter · I'm with winplaceshow. I think Ghostzapper is the best horse of the 20th century thus far. There are some other great horses mentioned here, but GZ would have left them all eating his dirt. · 13 days ago ·
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  • racingrooter · Oops, meant 21st century. I'm only 12 years behind. :-) · 13 days ago ·
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Where have those 120 Beyer horses gone? I miss them. You should, too. When I broached the subject of this column to Andrew Beyer, he said it was going to be depressing reading. True enough, but also, hopefully, educational. I have questions. Perhaps, somebody has answers. Read More
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  • travel_vic · Beyers as innacurate as ever, can never be compared one season to the next. · 61 days ago ·
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  • travel_vic · Beyer himself began to understand the phrase "It is not how fast you run but HOW you run fast" · 61 days ago ·
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In a race that has produced such stars as Point Given, Editor’s Note, and Vindication, in only 18 previous runnings, Hansen blew the doors off his competition in a fashion more impressive than any winner of the race to date. A son of Tapit, out of the Sir Cat mare, Stormy Sunday, Hansen took it to t...Read More
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  • drcatherinehansen · Way to go Hansen! · 109 days ago ·
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  • AnjaRhodin · Sicken snygging! · 94 days ago ·
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One of the best to missed out on winning the triple crown!
Jockey Pat Day gained his 7,000th career victory aboard...Read More
The Haskell Invitational Stakes (gr. I) is almost always a key post-classic test for 3-year-olds. This year, the race took on a potentially added significance, offering Preakness Stakes (gr. I) victor Shackleford or the Belmont Stakes (gr. I) captor Ruler On Ice—both of whom had the sidelined Kentuc...Read More
A few hours before The Haskell Invitational Bob Baffert,@Midnightlute, was tweeting about the keys to Coil’s victory. Read More
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  • cleclair1994 · coil was a monster. broke slow, sat last and did what not even animal kingdom could do...pass shackleford. · 191 days ago ·
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  • AndyScoggin · Hey, if those hot dogs work that well for Baffert I better try them before I bet the Pick 5 again! Seriously, Coil was very impressive with that closing performance in a good time of 1:48-2. · 191 days ago ·
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Today I spent part of the morning in the stable area at Monmouth Park waiting for Shackleford to take a break from all of his horse business so that I could get a photo of this year's Preakness winner and 5-2 Haskell morning line favorite. Trainer Dale Romans said that in the race, "We’ll just let h...Read More
  • zatt · One more day, Matt ... Who do you like? · 193 days ago ·
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  • AndyScoggin · Shackleford looked awesome when he schooled in the paddock today. He was on the muscle and showing off to crowd. Brad Thomas seems to be picking JJ's Lucky Train. I think Coil will run big. Stay Thirsty made Ruler on Ice look better, but down goes his odds even more. Pants On Fire??? I guess I sound as undecided as ever. Great field, though! I am going to the barns early Sunday, maybe that will help me choose! · 192 days ago ·
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Travers or Haskell? One blogger still prefers the Travers, and the classic 1 1/4 mile distance...Read More
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  • LAZMANICK · DeadHeat……….I’m not trying to argue with you and I’m no saying that you commented one way or another. I just wondered if you had ever heard of anyone calling the Travers Saratoga’s signature race. Regarding the fields for the Haskell. They seem to be getting deeper with talent in the past few years than they used to be and I think that one reason is the 9F distance. I also agree with Mike that the Travers is the greatest race for three year olds outside the Triple Crown. The Haskell to me has always been like a Blue Grass or a Florida Derby or a Wood Memorial, a top G1, but not on the same level as the TC races and the Travers. · 196 days ago ·
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  • DeadHeat · I have heard it called that and I most certainly believe in that name. However, I would disagree with you on the level of the Haskell. I would actually liken it to the Preakness, the baby child when standing next to the Derby which has so much age and prestige. While it still draws some wonderful deep and talented fields, it in no way can be called equal to the Derby. · 196 days ago ·
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Monmouth Park gives the grade 1 Haskell Invitational the tag line, “Where champions prove their greatness”. In the past four runnings...Read More
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  • skipaway2000 · I think if Shackleford wins the Haskell, he is 3yo champ - unless a 3yo wins the BCClassic · 198 days ago ·
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  • AndyScoggin · It will be interesting to see who runs in and wins the Travers, especially if Shackleford or Ruler on Ice do not win the Haskell. · 198 days ago ·
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Opening week at Del Mar and Saratoga brings plenty of potential superstars about to make their career debuts ...Read More
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  • MarkRodriquez · Brian a study was done and reported in the Racing Form. Dr. Parkin of univ. of Glasgow's study came up with these results: Horses break down on dirt at a rate of 2.14 times per 1,000 starts. Horses break down on synthetic tracks at a rate of 1.55 per 1,000 starts. This report was widely circulated and was ignored by the dirt-loving horse media. The study looked at 750,000 starts over the past few years. Mathematically, that's a 50% higher rate that dirt has. Something ponder, and I guess the dirt-loving horse media loves it's wallet more than the jocks and horses. · 204 days ago ·
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  • MarkRodriquez · And Kris F. is correct about Del Mar's Polytrack. They had a rash of breakdowns last year and already have a training death this year. Just because they are artificial doesn't mean they are safe. I'll say it again, why not install Hollywood Park's Cushion track instead? Great for the horses and great for the bettors. · 204 days ago ·
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Hello Haskell, my old friend. It's almost time for you again... A child of the Garden State, there is no race so deep in my being as Monmouth's signature mile and an eighth. I still have goosebumps begotten of great Haskell's past, like the day Majestic Light scorched the summer earth, or the way Fi...Read More
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  • BrianZipse · Uh-oh · 208 days ago ·
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  • girt · I wish Mucho Macho Man was running. · 208 days ago ·
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Upstaging the 143rd running of the $1 million Belmont Stakes (Grade I), the most impressive performance by a three-year-old on Saturday came with Coil dispatching his five rivals as the 4-to-5 favorite in the $100,000 Affirmed Handicap (Grade III) at Hollywood Park. Read More
  • BrianZipse · I have always liked this one ... With the Triple Crown crew, shall we say struggling just a bit, it might be a new star of the division who takes over in the summer and fall. Coil is a very interesting candidate to do just that. · 241 days ago ·
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For the second time in six years, trainer Bob Baffert won the $100,000 Affirmed Handicap with a son of Point Given.   Following in the steps of 2006 winner Point Determined, Coil successfully stretched out Saturday, defeating Runflatout and four others in the Grade III.   Perfect in three ...Read More
The news came in today that Preakness champion, Shackleford is confirmed as a go for next week's Belmont Stakes. It was not a surprise, as trainer Dale Romans has been saying all along, that provided the son of Forestry was thriving, he would enter him in the third leg of racing's Triple Crown. I to...Read More
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  • zatt · Yes, Mucho Macho Man makes 3 ... hopefully this is the start of a new trend! · 249 days ago ·
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  • ljeannette · This is so exciting! It woud be great to have a nice rivalry like in 78. · 248 days ago ·
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Why couldn’t the horse that is the farthest from a lock, the one that nobody expects, be the one to rise to the occasion? Read More
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  • DeadHeat · Bearing our can indicate inexperience also. Most horses running in the Derby exert an effort that they have never had to do before, and bearing out in the stretch is also not uncommon, especially for a horse who was in his fifth lifetime start. He got ahead and probably lost focus, which a lot of horses will do. · 266 days ago ·
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  • Mike in SB · I think he has a big shot at the Triple Crown. The Preakness winner usually comes out of the Derby and Mucho Macho Man looks like the only horse from the Derby that could beat him. The Belmont will be tough, but it seems to be a riders race and Animal Kingdom will have a great jockey for the Belmont This could be the year! · 266 days ago ·
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Now that The Derby has come and gone, it’s time to turn our attention to the often overlooked “middle child” of the Triple Crown series. And no doubt you have already heard much talk about how speed is even more valuable at Pimlico Race Course with the tight turns and shorter distance. Many of these...Read More
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  • DeadHeat · IMO Animal Kingdom is so versitile that it may not matter what the pace is like. He has been on the lead, stalking, mid pack and dead closer and has always performed well. DI may be running well at the end if he does not drop too far back. Astrology, IMO will be sitting fourth or fifth and should have a shot to. Based on this I would not play Flash, Shackle or DC. · 266 days ago ·
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  • Tremendous Machine · Dialed In's your horse here. DI still managed to nip Shack in the Florida Derby despite speed holding up all day and Shack having a great trip. Shack went on to take the lead and beat all but 3 horses in Louisville, so you know his speed is legit and he will be pushing the pace. The half will fall in 46 and change and DI will be roaring up the stretch, only this time DI will not have to navigate through such a huge field. DI's last half mile in the KD was 47 flat, which was considerably faster than Zenyatta at the same treack in the BC classic, only the KD track that day was rated as much faster which is why the Beyer and other speed figures were slower for the KD. Bottom line, DI will benefit from a faster pace and a smaller field and will be coming fast. He may not win, but he will certainly hit the board and won't miss by much if he doesn't win. · 266 days ago ·
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Point Given - Pedigree

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Thunder GulchGulchMr. Prospector
Jameela
Line Of ThunderStorm Bird
Shoot A Line
Turkos TurnTurkomanAlydar
Taba
Turbo LaunchRelaunch
Davids Tobin

Point Given - Race Results & Past Performances

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View Details08/05/011stG StevensMth111 1/8 mDHaskell-G103 MPoint GivenTouch ToneBurning Roma1:49.77
View DetailsView Video06/09/011stG StevensBel101 1/2mDBelmont Stakes-G103 MPoint GivenA P ValentineMonarchos2:26.80
View DetailsView Video05/19/011stG StevensPim111 3/16 mDPreakness-G103 MPoint GivenA P ValentineCongaree1:55.40
View DetailsView Video05/05/015thG StevensCD81 1/4 mDKentucky Derby-G103 MMonarchosInvisible InkCongaree1:59.97
View DetailsView Video04/07/011stG StevensSA51 1/8 mDSanta Anita Derby-G103 MPoint GivenCrafty C. T. I Love Silver1:47.77
View Details03/17/011stG StevensSA71 1/16 mDSan Felipe-G203 MPoint GivenI Love SilverJamaican Rum1:41.94
View DetailsView Video12/16/001stG StevensHol41 1/16 mDCashCall Futurity-G102 MPoint GivenMillennium WindGolden Ticket1:42.20
View DetailsView Video11/04/002ndG StevensCD81 1/16 mDBreeders' Cup Juvenile-G102 MMacho UnoPoint GivenStreet Cry1:42.05
View Details10/14/002ndG StevensBel91 1/16 mDChampagne-G102 MA P ValentinePoint GivenYonaguska1:41.40
View Details09/16/001stG StevensTP121 1/16 mDKentucky Cup Juvenile-G302 MPoint GivenHoliday ThunderThe Goo1:47.00

 

 

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