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Native Diver

Status:
Deceased
Owner(s):
Bred:
California (USA) by Louis K. Shapiro  -  Mrs.Louis K. Shapiro  -  [Add Data]
Pedigree:
Rating:
 
Winning his 1st Hollywood Gold Cup
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Older Comments about Native Diver...

They hired Archaeologists to exhume Native Diver's remains... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2576825/Archaeologists-exhuming-remains-legendary-million-dollar-racehorse-buried-California-track.html
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  • goblin · Thanks for posting this article, SS · 293 days ago
  • goblin · Thanks for posting this article, SS! If I were an archaeology student at USC, I would have been so excited and honored to be a part of that team! @kait, Natural canvas is composed of cotton, linen, hemp, and/or jute; so it would degrade naturally as you can see in the photos. See the slightly darker, rough, granular material around the skeleton? Now fabrics are often woven with synthetics or plastics that would impair degradation to some extent. · 293 days ago
The "Black Horse" was special! He won stakes from ages 2 thru 8! Won the Hollywood GC 3 straight years! This horse knew only one way of going. That was to go to the front at once and you had to catch him. Beautiful horse! One of my favorites!
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  • buckpasser · LAZ. I will be going out and won't be back until late afternoon, but what I am going to do is to take your charts and ones I have here and cross reference them with the daily chart books from the 1920's that I have. Unfortunately I do not have a complete set for 1923, but I do have the final volume with the index which will show how many times Exterminator ran, just not not the races or the finish. And unfortunately I do not have 1924 volumes. My email again is: dalewyatt@embarqmail.com. And that is a q as in quested not a g as in goat. · 331 days ago
  • travel_vic · going to the front IS the best way to run. They have to catch you, YOU set whatever pace you want, YOU get the best part of the track with nothing kicked in your face (the Clean Silk Syndrome is often rampant on days when it is wet) etc. · 331 days ago
Upon the closing of Hollywood Park on December 22nd, the remains of native Diver will be moved to Del Mar Racetrack
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  • EP Taylor · A darn shame Buck. I did read that an organization is trying to be formed to have those remains moved. A property developer bought the land from the Taylor family and those remains are still there. This was his grave from a couple years back, now it is even more overgrown.......http://www.google.ca/imgres?sa=X&biw=1920&bih=971&tbm=isch&tbnid=qu88-sSSWZ0KGM:&imgrefurl=http://write-andride.blogspot.com/2012/04/help-save-windfields-farm.html&docid=rQ97PzZFWgm7fM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Yxf6ODCBHmc/T4I7zMORQdI/AAAAAAAAAK4/iF3kYoqARGY/s1600/Northern-Dancer-01.jpg&w=370&h=290&ei=yI6rUrviE8nayAH2sYCoBA&zoom=1&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=167&tbnw=209&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=115&ty=86 · 380 days ago
  • Buckpasser · EP. Thanks for the link. Very sad. · 380 days ago
Does anyone know what will happen to his remains when they close BHP? It would nice if they moved to his place of birth if it still exist.
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  • Buckpasser · Goblin. From the discussion Landaluce looks to be going to Spendthrift but everyone on the forum said the plans are still up in the air mainly due to HP and the possibility of the owners wanting them to go to a particular place. But we should keep the pressure on · 529 days ago
  • goblin · Oh, absolutely, let the owners' families know how many people care about the appropriate relocation of these horses. · 529 days ago
His beautiful monument {and probably the Handicap} is headed from BHP to Del Mar. The National Museum of Racing has expressed interest in the life sized Swaps bronze—Shoemaker up.
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  • LAZMANNICK · I could think of a lot more forgotten horses than the ones that are on that list: Melair, for one, who like Landaluce had a short career (near the same time period too); horses like Cox’s Ridge and Fappiano and Capot (the one back in the forties and fifties), In Reality, Carry Back, Hill Prince. Probably hundreds of them. Gen Duke was among the best three year olds in 1957 in what is widely recognized as one of the deepest crops of really good three year olds ever, a crop that included, besides himself, Round Table, Bold Ruler, Gallant Man, Iron Liege, One-Eyed King and Federal Hill; a crop that would include two eventual HOY winners in Round Table and Bold Ruler; Round Table being Turf Champ three years in a row and top Handicap horse twice. In the Bloodhorse top 100, Round Table was ranked 17, Bold Ruler 19 and Gallant Man 36, which speaks volumes about the quality of that crop. Until he was injured Gen Duke raced five times going into the Derby, winning 5, with 5 seconds and two thirds. He had the distinction of defeating all three TC winners that year before the Derby, beating Iron Liege the Derby winner twice, Bold Ruler twice and Gallant Man the Belmont winner once while finishing ahead of him another time. He never raced after finishing second in the Derby trial but would almost certainly have been in the top three favorites for the Derby itself if he would have competed. And who knows where he would have stood in history if he would have raced through his three year old year. · 548 days ago
  • LAZMANNICK · Taht should read raced 12 times going into the Derby, not 5. · 548 days ago
A great horse with a big heart.
Many people don't recognize him because he raced in CA and at Arlington, not on East Coast
This was one of the most exciting and fun horses ever! You knew exactly what he was going to do in a race and he did it with exceptional bravery and consistency.
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  • humphrey · Review real studies of animal behavior like Lorenz On Agression and Horse Watching get to the heart of animal interactions and it is NOT based upon the emotions that sports riders superimpose on them. They run out of a conditioned response to fear. plain and simple. · 1550 days ago
  • humphrey · Animals should be considered, as Ivan Pavlov wrote in 1927, "without any need to resort to fantastic speculations as to the existence of any possible subjective states." More recently, The Oxford companion to animal behaviour (1987) advises "one is well advised to study the behaviour rather than attempting to get at any underlying emotion." · 1550 days ago

Native Diver - Race Results & Past Performances

Date(Descending)
Horse
Fin
Tr
#
Dist.
Sf.
Race
$
Cnd
1st
2nd
3rd
Time
View Details09/09/67Native Diver1stHP11 1/4 mDHollywood Gold Cup 3+ MNative DiverPretenseBiggs 
View Details01/21/67Native Diver1stSA77 fDSan Carlos-G1 3+ MNative DiverHoist BarPretense 
View Details09/10/66Native Diver1stHP11 1/4 mDHollywood Gold Cup 3+ MNative Diver   
View Details09/11/65Native Diver1stHP11 1/4 mDHollywood Gold Cup 3+ MNative Diver