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Mahmood al Zarooni

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(USA) by Darley Stud Management Co. Ltd.

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Monsun - Melikah by Lammtarra

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What the Nation is saying about Masterstroke...

Masterstroke

Dubai?

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Northport · He is in Dubai now, no longer trained by Andre Fabre unfortunately. He was scheduled to race for the first time at the Carnival on Super Saturday in the Dubai City of Gold but fell underneath the gate before the race and was a scratch. · 60 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Is there a projected next start, or have they not got there yet? · 60 days ago ·

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Northport · He is not listed on Godolphin's website in their provisional entries for World Cup Night - http://www.godolphin.com/news/latest-news/article/6863/provisional-plans-for-dubai-world-cup-meeting . However he is listed on Dubai Racing Club as a likely entry for the Sheema Classic - http://dubairacingclub.com/sites/default/files/likely_fields_mar_21_update.pdf · 60 days ago ·

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ILuvTurfRacing · @cocoa2, Masterstroke is still on the list of projected starters for the G1 Sheema Classic on world cup night. Although I don't think missing his prep in the G2 City of Gold did his chances much good. He also has entries in the G2 Jockey Club Stakes at Newmarket during English 2000 Guineas weekend and the G1 Coronation Cup at Epsom on Epsom Derby day. Beyond those 2 entries, I'm not really sure what other races Godolphin are looking at for him? I think we'll likely see him race more in the UK this season than in France since he's no longer trained by Andre Fabre. · 58 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · Sorry to post here, but, @cocoa2: You had opened a post slamming Northern Dancer as a runner and sire, being critical. You stated that he won the Dubai World Cup, and mentioned he lost the Derby. I mentioned that he had won the '64 Derby. You were speaking about somebody who was running in 1994. That post, evidently, no longer available? Who did you have in mind? Was it removed because you irked some people with nonsensical BS? · 58 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Thank you · 58 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · CFC, I was hoping that Laz Mannick might post as Northern Dancer was one of his favorites. I, like a few others, am wondering about Laz's condition and heard he was having some hard times in his family. I know ND well and did not actually think those crazy things. · 58 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · Oh, I see. I, like you, am an admirer of Lazmannick. I hope all is okay with him. Nice try. · 58 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · I was hoping the completely off and absurd statements might draw him in but it might not've been up long enough. He is an integral part of HRN, I think. · 58 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I was curious about him myself. hope everything is ok · 58 days ago ·

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rafirox · Nice try, cocoa. · 58 days ago ·

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Japan denied as quirky Orfevre allows Solemia victory‏

Carlos Laffon-Parias and Olivier Peslier came, saw and conquered in scintillating fashion as their four year old filly, Solemia, reeled in Orfevre in the dying strides of the Prix de L'Arc de TriompheRead More

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BrianZipse · Orfevre was a certain winner, and then ... he wasn't. Seems like a huge talent with a few issues between the ears. Give the filly credit though, she really came and got him! · 226 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · I had Orfevre to win, but I was nervous with the conditions. That looked to be a VERY tiring course as next to no one fired. This is still a VERY VERY good colt. · 226 days ago ·

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edgaropena · I was watching hrtv and Gary Stevens mentioned that Orfevre bumped into the rail prior to hitting the wire. What a turn of foot on the soft turf though. I wonder if it was good decision for Soumillon to shift from the outside to the rail and lose ground. · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · Soumillon knows Longchamp and knows how to ride a horse. If he went to the rail, it was because he thought the footing was better there. Obviously he knew he was on a tiring horse, and he thought by moving when he did he cold get enough distance between him and the rest of the field that he could win. He also would not have used the whip unless he thought he had to do so. Orfevre ran a brave race but being wide and on that testing course he just go tired. I can't fault Soumillon. And as Brian said, give the filly credit. She was relentless. · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · cold should be could · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Up by the rail where the water drains?? Really smart · 226 days ago ·

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ILuvTurfRacing · When you factor in Orfevre breaking from pp #18, the widest on the track, and running on the kind of soft ground he's rarely, if ever seen in his races in Japan, he ran a monster race. The best horse in the race somehow managed to end up finishing 2nd? But due credit to Olivier Peslier for riding a very smart tactical race on Solemia. Making sure the filly had enough left in the tank to run down Orfevre. What I found as surprising as Orfevre being beaten when he looked a certain winner was how shockingly easy he just blew by the many of the top rated European horses in the race like Camelot, SNA, Sea Moon, Shareta, Saonois, Great Heavens, etc....When Soumillon called on Orfevre to go and win his race, he rolled right on by all of these horses like they were idling in neutral, and none of them, save Solemia, seemed able to go with him. JMO. · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · 2,640 yards from the finish, the few yards a horse is off the center of the course is neglible, at best · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · do you have first hand info that the rail was a s bad as some other parts of the course, travel_vic? Maybe Sounillon doesn't know how to ride Longchamp. He must have made his reputation being lucky and not skillful. · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · so glad you are here to enlighten us. · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · I have walked many a course and talked to the maintenance crew about drainage...Near the inner rail tends to be the worst place on any course....OUTER rail, which I have seen is very fast soemtimes at Goodwood, is another ball game · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · Goodwood is not Longchamp, and unless you have inside information where the best part of the course actually was, then you are just speculating. I have seen many a Euro race where the field is split between one rail or another, meaning that the rail on both sides of the course was the best part of the course. You cannot make generalizations about Longchamp because of something observed at Goodwood. · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · I have too but NO ONE did it Sunday, save the one horse who lost the race after bearing into it. · 226 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Thi Colt has won going over 3000m....I am pretty sure the distance was no issue. If that Track played a tuch to the good side...he wins by 5 going away. · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · you were not riding that day travel_vic, and Orfevre put himself much closer to the absolute rail than Soumillon did. Soumillon obviously knows the course better than you do. Sorry, but it is a fact. · 226 days ago ·

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footlick · Marcello- the colt had never run on a course that testing before. You are right in that if the course was a touch on the good side he would have been far ahead of Solemia, but other horses who did not handle the course might have run to form also, so it would have been a totally different race. Solemia handled the course best. This Arc was actually the lowest rated Arc in a long time, and the lowest rated Racing Post has ever rated, and they have rated Arcs since 1988 I believe. It was not a strong Arc. Probably die to the conditions and the amount of horses who did not handle the course condition. But that is racing. · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Watch the entire contest, as I did....Several in fact. NO ONE moved up near the inner rail. NO ONE. · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · NO ONE moved up on the rail.....NO ONE. If it was such a great place to be, wouldn't you think more of these riders would have picked up on it?? · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · reference just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kluttGunQc · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Looked at the other races and the same thing:NO one moved up on the inner rail. Not a favored spot. · 225 days ago ·

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travel_vic · Prix Dollar: horses on the rail went backwards down the lane. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSA9EouJ_xw · 225 days ago ·

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travel_vic · http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABl6KBK7xvM Rider drops to rail and BACKS UP in the Prix Marc el Boussac · 225 days ago ·

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travel_vic · 2012 Prix Jean-luc Lagardere Horses near inner rail BACKED UP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqP6bjYr6oo · 225 days ago ·

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footlick · and should those horses have won? Were they the best horses in the race? Could they handle the turf conditions? There are mny, many reasons why tht might happen, not just the simplistic one you have decided to latch on to. · 225 days ago ·

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footlick · Izzy Top ran second in the Opera on the rail. How did that happen? She was a legitimate threat and she ran like it. On the rail. · 225 days ago ·

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footlick · Don Bosco is your example for the Dollar?????? · 225 days ago ·

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footlick · Silasol was on the rail the whole way in the Boussac????? What race were you watching. She won. So that is a win for her, a second for Izzy Top and a second for Orfevre. Do you want me to go on??? · 225 days ago ·

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footlick · In the Lagardere, one was obviously a pacesetter and the other was close to the pace and tired. Really travel_vic. Good horses like Orfevre and Izzy Top ran well. Silasol was not favored but handled the ground well. If the rail were so deadly she would have folded. She didn't. Orfevre lost the race himself, for whatever reason went thorugh his head. Even Euro columnists said his ducking to the rail in the Arc with Soumillon up showed that it was not all his Japanese jockey's fault. The horse is becoming a head case. · 225 days ago ·

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travel_vic · only matters down the stretch · 225 days ago ·

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footlick · pacemakers, horses who don't handle the going and outclassed horses don;t count. All the horses I mentioned were threats to win and ran well- on or near the rail. · 225 days ago ·

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Tough Draw for Orfevre in Arc

JAPANESE raider Orfevre will become the first horse since Dalakhani in 2003 to defy a double-figure draw in the Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe if he is successful on Sunday. Read More

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AmbitiousD · I'm not very concerned over Orfevre's starting position. I think this is horse is something special, and given his impressive (an erratic) recovery in the Hansin Daishoten, a gate position should not be a problem. · 229 days ago ·

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travel_vic · any race over 9.5 furlongs negates post position as the pace is slow and there is much time to get into a good position. · 229 days ago ·

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peter.jones.5621149 · Travel_vic. You are completely wrong here. Drawing 18 is a disaster in the Arc, and many other long races. Number 6 is the favored position for the Arc, and it comes as no surprise that it cropped up yet again in 2012. · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · keep beleiving the horse things · 226 days ago ·

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travel_vic · horsey that is · 226 days ago ·

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Masterstroke

I've been doing some early handicapping for the Arc and this is one of the 3yr.old's likely for the field who jumps out at me as a potential e/w bet in the race. Masterstroke has quietly and sort of under the radar become a really good 3yr.old for Andre Fabre this season. Under the radar meaning he's not been talked about as much as some of the other top 3yr.old Arc contenders like Camelot, Saonois, and Bayrir have been. He's got several positives going for him with the Arc right around the corner. He's highly progressive, and never finished worse than 2nd in his career to date. His record being 6-4-2-0. His two 2nd place finishes were back in early summer, beaten a 1/2 length in the G2 Prix Hocquart and a short neck in the G3 Prix Du Lys. He's proven that he can beat older horses and stay 12f in the same race when he recently won the G2 Grand Prix De Deauville, and last but definitely not least, he's got Andre Fabre as his trainer. A man that's been an absolute master at getting his top 3yr.old's to run big races in the Arc over the years. Masterstroke definitely makes my short list of 3 or 4 horses I'm looking at right now for the Arc. JMO.