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Ginger Punch

9 year old Mare | Retired

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Stronach Stables

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Robert J. Frankel

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Florida (USA) by [Add Data]

Pedigree:

Awesome Again - Nappelon by Bold Revenue

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8.28/10


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What the Nation is saying about Ginger Punch...

Who has ten bucks I can borrow?

Stronach, the man behind one of the most successful racing and breeding operations in the world, Adena Springs, along with a number of racing associates, has formed Golden Pegasus Racing Incorporated. The horse racing stock exchange program and privately held company will offer stock in each of thei...Read More

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ctunstill · Best way a retired teacher could ever break into this game. It is worth a try surely. · 139 days ago ·

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zatt · That's the spirit, Connie! · 139 days ago ·

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Floridaf · Definitely worth a try. I'm in! · 139 days ago ·

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AliceReynolds · AWESOME; I can't wait for the site to start accepting buyers. I will be doing this in memory of my Tim "Tiznow" Reynolds; he would have loved something like this and would have enjoyed doing it immensely! Yes, Brian, I have $10 bucks you can borrow. Heck, I will even pay you ten bucks for a little advice. Which corporation do you think Tim would choose? I already have 2 that caught my eye! · 139 days ago ·

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HeatherSeiden · This is awesome!!!!! I'm in also! · 139 days ago ·

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DeniseHarden · $10 bucks for bragging rights is a bargain....... · 139 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · We should pool our funds and form an HRN group! · 139 days ago ·

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yvonne0604 · This Kentucky native has always dreamed of owning a horse - any horse - but a race horse?? Wow!!! Count me in! · 139 days ago ·

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rayjay · Sounds good to me!! I'm in! · 139 days ago ·

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bellesforever1 · Pretty darned cool! · 139 days ago ·

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LizSnedden · I have $20 :) · 139 days ago ·

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ljeannette · Whoa, this is huge! · 139 days ago ·

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szulcc · This whole plan has a lot of things that scream 'red flag'...one, these horses have already been acquired by Stronarch/Adena and now are being passed on to these partnerships. Personally it seems that Stronarch/Adena is dumping their unwanted purchases on the unsuspecting public. Second, there is absolutely no chance at a person making any type of return on this - management fees, the biggest markup I've ever seen, and $150/day in training is outrageous. Yes, it's $10 which may be fun to have the smallest share of horses, but I wouldn't dare think about putting a $1,000 or even $100 into this. Also note that they are valuing these horses to an average of more than $2 million per horse, when the prospectus even says some have been purchased as low as $4,000. Buyer beware. · 139 days ago ·

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KimGlass · Frank can hardly wait to hear from any potential suckers, er, I mean investors. · 139 days ago ·

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ljeannette · Mom always says, "if it sounds too good to be true..." · 139 days ago ·

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Waya · Come on people. You are investing $10 for all the excitement of having a piece of 20 horses, not because you expect to get rich. Count me in! · 139 days ago ·

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ljeannette · if you can really do it for a small investment, it would be worth the fun. · 139 days ago ·

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Saratoga John · When all is said and done . . . it's penny stock. · 139 days ago ·

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arazi · Looks like a blast! I'm in! · 138 days ago ·

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JettieMullins · COUNT ME IN!!!! · 138 days ago ·

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nymdhahn · this is a madoff scandal · 138 days ago ·

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buckpasser · If you are going to invest in this scheme, READ the prospectus. Frank Stronach only cares about Frank Stronach, so I would be careful with something that sounds too good to be true, it usually is · 138 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Scam, obviously. As said before, Stronach thinks of Stronach and no one else. · 119 days ago ·

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Ginger Punch

Ginger Punch was a great filly and I know she wasn't better than Zenyatta but that doesn't change the fact that GP was a great horse.

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CraigBradshaw · kaless.....you are absolutely correct, and anybody that doesn't think that gp was a great mare is a few bottles short of a 6 pack. · 261 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · punch won 18 of her 22 starts, 8 graded stakes wins, and champion older female horse of 2007. damn good resume'! · 191 days ago ·

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Breeders' Cup Top 10 - The Distaff/Ladies' Classic (with Videos)

Counting down the Top 10 Breeders' Cup Distaff/Ladies' Classic runnings...Read More

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AndyScoggin · Love your list. Personal Ensign would have been my #1, too. · 207 days ago ·

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BrianAppleton · Thanks Andy! There are so many impressive runs, but Personal Ensign was just too much, I couldn't see my way around her at #1 :) · 207 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · You picked the right #1 for sure, Brian ... and it is always great to see two of my all-time favs, Lady's Secret and Princess Rooney, doing their thing! · 207 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · I like the 1991 Ladies Classic with Dance Smartly. She was a Triple Crown winner in Canada and beat the best older horses in the Distaff. She should get more respect when people talk about the great 3 year old fillies. · 207 days ago ·

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KyOaksRunner · @Brian - I almost left Lady's Secret off, but after looking into the field, and seeing the time she ran on the lead all the way for 1 1/4 miles there was no way I could toss her! · 207 days ago ·

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KyOaksRunner · @Mike - Dance Smartly was my #11, she had a fantastic year and beat a pretty good field in the Distaff too! · 207 days ago ·

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cpsoren121 · Lady's Secret is my choice! · 207 days ago ·

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Who Has Zenyatta Beaten?

Nineteen up, nineteen down. Zenyatta has done it all. Her quest for a pair of perfect 10s comes in a few weeks at Churchill Downs with the world watching in the Breeders' Cup Classic. But there is an undeniable question standing in her way to 20 consecutive victories -- the competition. Even the mos...Read More

Source: sports.espn.go.com · Posted 583 days ago ·

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humphrey · The clock, energy dynamics of pace. the traditonal positional proclivities of the deep closer and EVERY pace thrown at her....The particulars are not any different than that · 583 days ago ·

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humphrey · Bloodhorse has a good article about her http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/wgoh/archive/2010/10/19/lost-opportunities-by-eric-mitchell.aspx · 583 days ago ·

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medlocke · Looks like a pretty respectable group to me. Both male and female alike. Plus, the field she'll face in the 2010 Breeders Cup Classic will only serve to strengthen that list. I challenge any horse, male or female, to give away the weight that Zenyatta has given away so many times in so many races, and see if they still come up undefeated under those taxing circumstances? It's almost unheard of for a deep closer, more often than not, saddled with a boulder while the competition carries a brick, to be able to find the wire every time first without failure. Zenyatta's drive, and refuse to lose attitude is second to none in the sport, worldwide. This mare can run all day long. Stamina will be her deadliest weapon at Churchill Downs. I think both Quality Road and Blame, off of his JCGC run, are suspect at best to not fade at 1-1/4. I think it's likely Lookin At Lucky could prove to be her strongest opposition. But provided that Mike Smith does his job correctly, and times the ride correctly, I think her shear power and closing onslaught will prove too much for all in the race. As I said before, let other horses try giving away the weight that Zenyatta has given on a regular basis. Then see how their lifetime record comes out? Unbelievable that this mare, given her running style, and handicaps in races is still a perfect 19 for 19. Make no mistake. What Zenyatta has already accomplished is history making. If she win's this year's Breeders Cup Classic? It will be legendary for all-time. JMO. · 583 days ago ·

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wildwestzona · I would love to see them do this same list for Rachel's competition. If a horse dominates the FEMALE CLASIC, Wins The BCC, beats Switch (who beat blind luck), beats the horse Zardana(that Rachel lost to), and is 19-0 over a 3 year period - then I don't care if the races are on concrete against donkey's, that is one heck of a career and IMO makes her the greatest female in American Sports Racing History. · 583 days ago ·

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wildwestzona · Forgot to mention: REGAL RANSOM who beat BLAME people. SUMMER BIRD who was voted 2009 MALE champion people!!! GIOPONTI who is the best MALE turf horse in America. · 583 days ago ·

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luvzenyatta · There's that ugly symbol again. I agree totally that Rachel should not ever have a 1 rating, but at this point in Zenyatta's undefeated 19 for 19 career she should never have a red down arrow next to her name. No excuses or explanations accepted:) · 582 days ago ·

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luvzenyatta · Z haters: Repeat after me, 19 for 19, 19 for 19, 19 for 19. There's no denying the greatness of this accomplishment. · 582 days ago ·

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bob46 · Z tea drinkers, repeat after me, Horse of the Year RA, horse of the year RA, horse of the year RA, Poly Lover Zenyatta, Poly lover Zenyatta, Poly lover Zenyatta, · 582 days ago ·

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Skyharbor21 · No one wanted to race her for 2nd at the Apple Blossom. Surely the east coast fillies who excel on dirt would have stepped up to take her on. But no one wanted to get beat, that includes RA. · 582 days ago ·

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perimeters · bob46, Rachel Alexandra did win 2009 Horse of the Year, but she probably ran the weakest campaign of any defending Horse of the Year in 2010. Understand your track surfaces. Zenyatta does not seem to care for Del Mar's Polytrack surface but she wins anyway. She has also won two Grade 1 races on regular dirt, and numerous others on Hollywood's Cushion Track and Santa Anita's Pro-Ride. Since you seem enamoured with Rachel, where was you princess when Zenyatta was romping in the 2010 Apple Blossom? · 582 days ago ·

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cugel the clever · LOL - Pathetic to see the zenyphiles defending the supposed "strength" of last year's BCC field. I notice the poll of the day asks who you like to win the Mile, and the great Gio Ponti, who Z beat last year gets only 11% of the vore for 4th place and he isn't even good enough for his connections to enter him in the Classic this year! Yup, Z sure did beat some strong competion last year..... · 582 days ago ·

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mdracing69 · cugel, I read that Gio Ponti is going to be pre-entered in the BC Mile and Classic. “At the moment our intention is to enter in both the races,” Stuart Fitzgibbon, commercial manager at Castleton-Lyons, said Thursday afternoon. · 582 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I just can't understand why when you have a great mare and a great filly in the same your need for bashing one or the other. 2009 was a great year for the ladies,Zenyatta beat a very strong field in the classic and the woodward was the most brutal race I've ever seen run. Not one horse who ran in the Woodward is running today and not by choice.Every horse in that race took a shot at her and she put them all away.Getting back to Zenyatta 19-0 is a feat not likely to be seen again.Personally I think she she runs it up to 20 no problem.When you chase a horse a good as Gio Ponti out of entering a race that says volumes about just how good she is. · 582 days ago ·

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zilzal89 · The play over here will be to take the 4-1 Zenyatta now, i will probably be able to lay her at much reduced odds come postime. What do all you folks over there think of the pace of the race?? as it looks set up for the closers here · 581 days ago ·

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medomoreno · I find it sad to witness pettiness regarding this issue. In my opinion, any race including Gio Ponti, Blame, Quality Road, Haynesfied, and Lookin' At Lucky is a helluva race; throw in Zenyatta: WOW!!! Sit back & enjoy. The goal is to win, and for any stretch-runner that translates into: getting up in time. Zenyatta's closest margins of victory have been in races in which the 6 Furlong splits have been: 1:13.06, 1:15.11 [sic], 1:13.64. Does anybody really think that in this coming race we're gonna see a 1:15 split??? · 579 days ago ·

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humphrey · EVERY horse that dared go into the gate with her. · 579 days ago ·

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medomoreno · I find it sad to witness pettiness regarding this issue. In my opinion, any race including Gio Ponti, Blame, Quality Road, Haynesfied, and Lookin' At Lucky is a helluva race; throw in Zenyatta: WOW!!! Sit back & enjoy. The goal is to win, and for any stretch-runner that translates into: getting up in time. Zenyatta's closest margins of victory have been in races in which the 6 Furlong splits have been: 1:13.06, 1:15.11 [sic], 1:13.64. Does anybody really think that in this coming race we're gonna see a 1:15 split??? · 579 days ago ·

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curlin · I have a question to the zenyatta "haters": Do you want her to get beat? I understand you feel she is overrated but, would you not love to see her win? If she were to win she'd be undoubtably a top 5 horse all time. Do you not want to see history? I'm of the group that this year does nothing but add to her legacy. IMO even if she loses she is still an all time great. I just don't see how people can root against her. I was never a fan of RA but I always wanted her to win. Mainly because it would look better when zenyatta beat her. (now we won't get a chance to see that happen). It is just unbelievable to me how you can root against her. · 579 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · this prior bcc10, blame proved himself to be a very worthy horse in nosing out zenyatta, albeit on his home track, and a surface more familiar to him than to zen. you could say now that he is the best horse she has met in the classic on dirt, but the always game and underappreciated gio ponti should remain right at the top of the list due to his versatility, and the fact that he did as well against goldikova as he did against zenyatta. quality road, haynesfield, musket man should be put way down around 18, 19, 20, as all 3 of them were non-factors in this classic. fly down could probably be moved into about the 11th position. i'd put espoir city in at about 15th or so. lookin' at lucky could be considered at about 10th. · 491 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · in addition, you can see that she has faced the best horses available at least once, that didn't refuse to face her, considering her races were announced well in advance. · 491 days ago ·

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trenchtownrock · Really?....I think that should answer it. · 491 days ago ·

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medlocke · CraigBradshaw, I totally agree. Maybe Zenyatta didn't face the boys as often as myself or many others may have liked? But the one thing you can say is that when she did face the boys, she faced the very best of the best that raced on turf, synthetics, and conventional dirt. And found only one that was able to run a big enough race to withstand her closing kick by mere inches on his home track. A racetrack that Blame had dominated many other G1 winning males throughout his career. Don't get me wrong, I think Blame is a fantastic colt. A real talent that had a great career. But when you can say that you raced 22 of the very best colt's in the world on both synthetics and conventional dirt, and defeated 21 of them soundly, there's certainly no shame in that. If Zenyatta had faced males more often than she face them in her career, would she have more than one loss? Very probably. But I will say that she was a dominant enough race-mare that I don't believe she would've defeated in her division any more often than Goldikova ever get's defeated in hers. TJMO. · 491 days ago ·

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lewpe · Oldest males horses to win the BC Classic were 5 years old. Zenyatta, at 6 years old, takes on 4 year olds in their prime and still puts in a phenomenal performance. She may not have raced many races against the males but as medlocke states she did, indeed, beat 21 of the best soundly. She deserves credit for that. She deserves credit for beating the remaining field in the 2010 BC Classic as well. Her prior 2010 races may have been considered prep races but, as another post states, she gave up weight to lesser experienced opponents to even the odds. She did, in fact, run two very close races which I saw first hand against Switch and Lethal Heat. It's interesting but sad to see the ugly posts that are swirling here which is why I've stayed away. There is a horse for their time and Zenyatta is the horse of our time. She brought renewed interest to the sport for those who have never attended as well as for those of us like myself who have been going to horse racing events for over 30 years. It's exciting to see people genuinely excited again about horse racing. And, it has given us renewed hope in the industry. · 486 days ago ·

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medlocke · Look, did Zenyatta run against the boys as often as we all wanted to see her run against them? Probably not. But when you've raced in back to back Breeders Cup Classics, on two different surfaces, against 22 of the very best colt's in the world that raced on turf, synthetics, and conventional dirt. One can hardly say Zenyatta dodged anybody. And she proved herself better than 21 of the 22 best colt's in the world. Only losing by mere inches to a colt in Blame that was more dominant on the CD track than any other horse in racing has been in the past 2 seasons. JMO. · 453 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · medlocke:Zenyatta ? She won horse of the year for 2010 and went on to mate with Bernardini? This is March 1, 20011 the voting is over wake up, the voting actually took place and she won. Go back to sleep it was just a bad dream. · 452 days ago ·

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Thead'or · This argument is a joke. For some odd Reason every Zenyatta convo somehow has to mention RA's accomplishments. Why? A horse that she never faced, and never will seems to play a questionably big part in her career. Its not who the horses Rachel Alexandra beats, its how she beat them. In the Woodward ANY horse would have gone flat like a cheap tire after the fractions she set. Any 3 year-old filly running in this race [Wait has that ever happened before?] Would have not been anywhere near this field heading for home. She wasn't any 3 year-old filly. Her accomplishments where so far and beyond at that age and gender people got carried away. Trying to pick out minor things, fact is she never let us down that year. Her owners paid the price for it, but we got to see hints of what was of 2009 in 2010. · 452 days ago ·

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footlick · Can we just stop! Why tear down either animal. Let's move on. Please!!!!! · 452 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · not trying to dredge up old arguments, but if you read the list, plus the 12 males she finished ahead of in the bcc11, she bettered 30+ G1 winners in her career. · 262 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · CraigBradshaw: Most were running on her track for the first time(synthetic). You want to come to my house? I'll beat you anytime you wanna play basketball. Don't know if I can beat you at your house, but, then that's another story. · 262 days ago ·

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WesWhite · Goldikova bested almost as many Grade 1 winners in 1 year. Laughable. · 262 days ago ·

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HORSEFACE · CauseForConcern.....AMan.... she was a synthetic specialist...!!! just average away from home. · 262 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · medlocke: You stated that Zenyatta won back-to-back BC's on two different surfaces. She won both BC's at the same track, same surface. · 262 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Whats pitiful is that you people had to go back 190 days to start another lame argument between ztchtes · 261 days ago ·

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TimSmith · Seriously MOVE ON.. There are two sides to this argument and neither ever gives in.. Quit being pathetic and move on. · 261 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · ww, cfc, horseface.....three teenyboppers still throwing spitwads at a horse. weakest arguments i've ever seen. · 261 days ago ·

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RamonDimas · she beat the best males horses in the U.S. · 261 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · and, several G1 winning females, and the best at the time, ginger punch, for a total of well over 40 G1 horses beat by z. · 257 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · IMO she did NOT face the best Turf horses in 2009, if the best Turf Horses raced her Sea The Stars would have won, Conduit could have won, Fame and Glory could have won, Henry the navigator could have won. beating Twice over at 3, RVW @3 ( rode completely wrong in that race up close) is not convincing enough to me that she beat the so called BEST. The BEST raced in the ARC, and the BC Turf, and stuck to their disciplines, and watch the race again to see Gio Ponti have a horrid trip until he found room at the 16th pole. JMO. · 242 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Plus with all due respect to Blame(who is a champion Dirt Horse) who did she race in last years BCC that was a legitimate 10f horse? Musket man?, Espoir City?, First Dude(maybe this year before retiring) Paddy O'Prado?, Quality Road(love him to death, and was injured during the race). The only 10f horses finished in the top 4. That Field was not as loaded as people would like to think, in regards to legitimate 10 f horses. But Zenyatta still had a tremendous record, and regardless if she raced vs fillies/Mares 95% of the time she still won 18 races in that regard. Hell of a record. · 242 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @MarcelloMarocco: With all due respect, Sea The Stars, Conduit, Henry the Navigator, Fame and Glory did not show up, Zenyatta did. It's pretty odd how many horses didn't show up or retired rather than face her. As far as losing to Blame by eight inches that was one of the best races I've ever watched regardless of the out come. Running down a great closer in his own right (Blame) is no small accomplishment. Some trainers who feel she could run with the best ever are, Allen Jerkens, Nick Zito, Bob Baffert, John Nerud etc. As with all posts they tend to be very subjective so I believe in time her greatness will be more appreciated. Have a nice day. · 242 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · Marcello, get your gender right. · 242 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Cause for Concern- What Gender would yo be refering too?.... When I said She it was Zenyatta I spoke of. Read more carefully. · 238 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Icy - Yes the horses I listed ran in the ARC, and BC Turf(conduit). These horses run 12f, not 10. Sea The stars beating Zenyatta would have proved nothing after the field he beat in the ARC. Not to mention that they don't run 10f on synthetics, nor do they run 10f period. 12f is the distance of preference. · 238 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · They do run 10f, but 12f is the classic distance, and most of the Major races are mostly run at that distance · 238 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · @MarcelloMarocco : I don't need any lessons on horse racing especially as redundant as your are! · 238 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · Icyhotboo- Ahhhh whats wrong?....hate hearing the truth?....redundent...Lol...hardly · 225 days ago ·

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MarcelloMarocco · I never new Correcting myself was considered be redundant?.... · 225 days ago ·

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Ginger Punch

gp won several g1 races including bclc. this horse was the best female in usa, and zenyatta passed her in the stretch like she was standing still at oaklawn in the best apple blossom race to date. also notice that cocoa beach, another g1 winner that zenyatta beat, beat the great ginger punch in a G1 race.

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What I live for

"Horses, racing, they're a part of Americana. And I think we've lost our focal point in this rush to create these wagers and simulcasts and the things we've had to do as an industry in order to survive ... but the glory of the horse and the art of handicapping have become somewhat lost in the shuffl...Read More

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humphrey · Cella oversees, arguably. one of the best meetings in North America for attendance, mutuels and fan satisfaction.....Like Smith Barney ads, we he talks people SHOULD listen. · 555 days ago ·

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Nappelon, Dam of Ginger Punch, Dies

Nappelon, dam of 2007 champion Ginger Punch, died May 31 in Central Kentucky, according to the mare’s owner, Beth Ann Brown-Gambone. The Henrythenavigator offspring that she was carrying from a 2009 mating also died.Read More

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More Than Horses

Bobby Frankel was not for everybody. I was crazy about him. Just months ago a writer for this magazine begged off a story because it entailed calling him. I knew the feeling. One of my first assignments here was calling Bobby after his brilliant trainee Mazel Trick suffered a career-ending injury. H...Read More

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Ginger Punch

She was a very useful and talented horse... hopefully her offspring carry her traits.

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Ginger Punch

Retired after the Breeders' Cup Ladies Classic 2008

Posted by c92vete · 972 days ago ·

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Ginger Punch - Pedigree

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Awesome Again	Deputy Minister	Vice Regent
		Mint Copy
	Primal Force	Blushing Groom
		Prime Prospect
Nappelon	Bold Revenue	Bold Ruckus
		More Revenue
	Sally Go Gray	Wise Exchange
		Surreptitious