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Mineshaft - Queen Randi by Fly So Free

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A Breeders' Cup Classic Upset: Blame edges Zenyatta

Zenyatta! Going into the 2010 Breeders’ Cup at Churchill Downs on Nov. 5 and 6, you would have thought Zenyatta was the only horse participating in the races... Read More

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zatt · One of the most thrilling races I have ever seen. My pick Blame may have won the race, but all I could think afterwards was how gallant and magnificent Zenyatta was. Wonderful piece, Rick! · 103 days ago ·

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travel_vic · If Smith could do it over, he would have stayed much closer to that field....Far far too far back and had to steady in the move whiich was enough at the wire to cost her · 103 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · I have always maintained that Zenyatta fell so far behind because she was so distracted by the new situation: it was dark and under the lights, dirt track, huge crowd. Down the stretch for the first time she was throwing her head, looking around, and when she finally settled down she ran like crazy, but Blame was not giving up at the end. · 103 days ago ·

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Protagonist · travel vic: you have said it the best so far, from the armchair quarterback position that many of us have ,it appeared that Zenyatta was in a totally diffeerent race for most of it that the rest of the field.Someone else at Churchill Downs must have been giving the orders that day. What with what happened with Life at Ten, the way Underwood,now refered to as the undertaker in Indian Charle,going after State Steward John Vietch. When it was Johns fault at All, He is up in the Stewards Box ,Whgo was the State Veterinarian on duty on the Track, Why did Johnny V, not say hey my mount isn't acting correctly,etc. Then with Mike taking back for to long and to far? Something else was at play on Breeders Cup Day last Year and the majority of us Will Never be given the Honest Answer, Because If I've learned anything in these past 7 months while here is this CHURCHILL DOWNS thinks that it is the Colonel Jessup in " A Few Good Men " and that the General Public isn't entitled to the truth. People ,Fans don't blame the horsemen for this fiasco, we want the Truth As well and are being also deprived of it! " A Few Go od Men" · 103 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · In that one race alone she validated her greatnes. Very nice article on a truly great horse who I feel will be thought of far better as time goes on · 103 days ago ·

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RaTalk_Girl · It was amazing to watch and what a great read. Thanks for the reminder of what we witnessed last year...not sure I will ever see anything like that again. · 103 days ago ·

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Zenyatta-Perfection Personified · Thank you for writing this. It was great to relive it. What a race! · 103 days ago ·

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Zenyatta-Perfection Personified · It seems to me that the reason Zen was so far behind was because she struggled so much with the track. When she ran by us the first time, her head was bobbing like crazy. I have listened to an interview with Mike Smith and he said that he considered pulling her up because he was afraid she was hurt. It did not help her at all that she was stopped - literally - by Quality Road at the top of the stretch. But all that said, Blame ran a great race. · 103 days ago ·

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luvzenyatta · Beautiful story, beautiful picture, beautiful Zenyatta · 103 days ago ·

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getthefacts · HA what a crock!! · 103 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · ICY hit it the nail on the head as well as the author. In that lone defeat in her career Zenyatta did validate her greatness. A filly for the ages and it'll probably take another 30 years or so until we see one we could call her equal.Very well done. · 103 days ago ·

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Armada · Fantastic article about a stellar horse. Wont see another like her in a long, long time... if ever. That last stretch run of hers was mesmerizing. · 102 days ago ·

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getthefacts · How right I hope you are LAZ. I could go without seeing another overhyped mule (AKA Zenyatta) for the next 30 years at least. · 102 days ago ·

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Bluegrass · Thank you for the kind words everyone. They are very much appreciated. (Even you getthefacts, as you are also entitled to your own opinion, too.) I never got to see her race live, but the two times I did get to see her - at the barn before the Classic and at Keeneland on that cold, snowy night, are memories I'll enjoy for the rest of my life. She was definitely one of the great ones. · 102 days ago ·

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annmatt · Beautifully done, Rick. A commenter at a blog said it best for me, in part (I have his permission to use his words): “This race will never be about how Blame won. It will always be about how Zenyatta lost. She fought the travel, the media frenzy, the dirt track, the bad start, the 20 lengths down and still only lost by a nose. The other horse had the perfect race. No problems, just had to hold on and not get tracked down. One lost stride for perfection. What we learned today is not about our hearts being broken but about the heart of a Champion we grew to love. Who had no chance at all and just about pulled it off. Her critics who said she couldn't run on dirt saw that she did the same thing she always had done. Even with the worst of odds this time. It took all odds against her and a perfect race to beat her. Don't you hate it when someone lucks out and doesn't have to answer for being wrong? Today in this sports moment we lost perfection but we gained greatness. It's about what we call in sports of having the heart to overcome impossible odds and not so much about winning but to give it your all and giving it your best. We should all remember this day for Zenyatta never giving up and giving it all she had. Again one lost stride for perfection. But the heart that made her the Greatest Filly of all Time.” Amen! · 102 days ago ·

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annmatt · I do have a P.S.: I will be forever grateful for the graciousnes of Garrett Gomez, who stood in his saddle and saluted Zenyatta twice! Class shows. He recently has ridden a couple of the Moss' horses! Blame's trainer also was very complimentary and how lucky they were! The other member of that group, however, did a complete disservice to a fine family dynasty with his crass remarks. His was really the great opportunity missed to be magnanimous and gentlemanly, as his "breeding" suggests he should have been. No matter, the split screen at the HOY awards were worth a thousand words when they announced the winner!! Zenyatta! Yes!! · 102 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Nice Fable Annmatt maybe they can make it into a nice Disney special with talking horses and everything. · 102 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · I agree with annmatt and Facts. Mr.Seth should play himself in the movie, which I will go see--it will be great--as no one else will be able to say, "The Mare", as he did. The woman who was the voice for Bambi's mom should also be the voice of Zenyatta. That's the voice I give her when I read her diary. · 102 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · Great thought about the Disney Movie FACTS. Maybe you could play the cousin to Eddie Murphy’s character in Shrek, Donkey I believe it was, only in this case we could name the cousin Jack-Ass. Maybe we could even get a part for your friend and call it the Wicked Witch of California. · 102 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · Laz, okay, minor lol to that. I do think this year's BCC finish could be the material for a movie itself. With rain in the forecast, and both Mo and HDG just coming off wins in the mud, there might be another male-female 1-2 finish, except with a length of the stretch battle as opposed to just meeting at the wire. · 102 days ago ·

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zenyatta mondatta · Getthefacts, I believe you are the only "Crock" around here. Zenyatta will be famous from here on out, get used to it. · 102 days ago ·

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getthefacts · LOLOLOL, so an animated feature it is. Her and her connection were always such cartoons anyways. Zenyatta is remembered by fewer and fewer each day. Give it 4 - 5 years the avg person wont know who the hell she was. · 102 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · The "average person" doesn't know that much about horse racing anyway. They may even ask if Secretariat will be in the BCC this year--just say yes, it's easier. Zenyatta will not be forgotten by racing fans, whichever way you take that. At least don't be silly. You know how I feel about boring. · 102 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Ohh Mary even I think you know she will be remembered by far fewer in just a few short year. And BTW she is no Secretariat, she wont even me remembered as to the level of Onion in a few years time, IMO. · 102 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · IYO. And BTW, I wasn't comparing any horse to Secretariat. I have my own story about Onion. I won't forget him, ever. · 102 days ago ·

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getthefacts · LAZ, I would like to ask you a quick question. In all seriousness, if HDG is to go on and win the BCC in a faster time or more dominating performance, will you consider her in the same light as Zenyatta? · 102 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · FACTS. In answer to your question, NO!!! Seriously, not even close. · 102 days ago ·

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LAZMANNICK · FACTS. First of all, who has HDG beaten that can even be called an Eclipse award winner other than Blind Luck? She beat Blind Luck emphatically in the Azeri when rested and Blind Luck was tired after a busy schedule, miles of traveling and not at her bet. She beat her by a dwindling neck in the Cotillion when receiving 10 Lbs. Blind Luck was 6 1/2L behind her at the ¾’s in the BC Distaff and finished almost two lengths in front of her. Blind Luck might be good, but she also had her bad days. Twice at 10F HDG couldn’t get the job done after having the lead in the stretch and being caught and passed by Blind Luck. Other than Blind Luck, what really tough filly or mare did she ever beat? As for the males she beat in the Woodward, only Flat Out is considered good enough to enter the BCC and when she beat him he wasn’t even a G1 winner and he was gaining on her in the stretch. The other males were second tier. The males she will face in the BCC are an interesting bunch, but most haven’t really proven anything. Uncle Mo is possibly great, but still has to prove it and at a distance he is supposedly suspect at. So You Think is all class, but that’s on turf and he’s lost his last two when heavily bet. The three year olds haven’t really done much against older horses other than Mo in the Kelso and I believe THAS in an allowance at Saratoga. Game On Dude has been good, but on the west coast and he has also lost two G3 races this year. Only Mo has ever won an Eclipse and that was at two. Now Zenyatta, without going on too much about her accomplishments, has won a BC Distaff, a BCC and finished 2nd in a BCC by a head when finishing faster than every other horse in the race. She has defeated multiple Eclipse award winners of multiple G1 and Group One races. IMO, the field in this year’s BCC, with maybe the exception of Mo and So You Think, would all be at long odds in the past two BCC’s and would not have made the top three in either and I’m including HDG. The time in this race will be irrelevant and it won’t matter how dominating the performance because this is not close to being a top class BCC, probably ranking in the bottom five IMO. Ask yourself, how would HDG have competed against the top filly groups in the 90’s. · 102 days ago ·

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getthefacts · I would say Switch was a quality horse she beat, as well as Awesome Maria, and Royal Delta who has a great shot at winning the BCLC this year, as well as finding her way onto the Eclipse ballot. I also point out that HDG did already run a faster Apple Blossom than Zenyatta in 08. Couldn't compare last years because of the distance difference. While the Woodward field was weak, it was stronger than any field Zenyatta faced prior to the BCC in 2009 or 2010. She will be facing 6 horses in the classic who have won 1 1/4 races and all of them doing so this year. 5 of them on actual dirt. If Gio Pointi were to opt and run in the Classic that would be 7 who have won at the distance. Last year Zenyatta faced 2 horses who ever won the distance and 1 only did so on turf. "IF" Grace wins as I said. She will also have defeated the likely 3 yo Eclipse Champion, the 2 yo chamioon from last year, The likely turf award winner, and then possibly Gio Ponti who is a multiple Eclipse winner himself. What about last years classic makes you think it wasn't possibly the worst ever? Just because it featured Zenyatta? Who lost to a horse who had not previously won a race at the distance and looked awful in his only attempt at it leading up to the Classic. Did you really think QR, Haynesfield, Espoir City, Fly Down, Musket Man, LAL, Pleasant Prince really make a strong contingent of horses for a classic race? Granted if they were going 8.5 or 9 furlongs things could have gotten interesting but hell, she was the most proven horse in the field, given a weight allowance, bred for distance and still lost. And to a horse who really didn't prove shit previous to that. If you really compare them this race set ups very similar to the 2009 Classic. Your most proven horse is a turf horse much like Gio Ponti and Twice Over were, You have a handful of horses who have posted wins going the distance on both fields. However, none of them were really stand outs in either. Summer Bird was a little more proven than Stay thirsty, but thas was on Dirt, which left the lingering question could he handle synthetics. Much like we have the question about MO and distance. Although, Only 3 horses in that race had ran a 1 1/4 on synthetics, and only about half had ever ran on synthetics at all. All but one facing HDG this year have actually raced and won on dirt. When I asked myself your question, I did honestly have to say probably better than Zenyatta as synthetics weren't really around for her yet. · 102 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · Rick, I'll add a couple more comments from experts that were floored by Zenyatta performance in the 2010 Classic..."For her to do what she did, I put her on a higher plateau than before," says Steve Haskin, senior correspondent for The Blood-Horse who's covered the sport for four decades. "She's (Zenyatta) the greatest filly I've ever seen. She may be the greatest of all time." http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horses/breeders/2010-11-07-zenyatta-impresses_N.htm · 102 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · This is taken from Steve Bailey of the Thoroughbred Times..."I had the unique opportunity on Sunday (the day after the Classic) to get a glimpse of how Zenyatta and the Breeders' Cup Classic were viewed and digested by someone who, as they say, does not have a dog in the fight. For more than four decades, Australian form analyst Peter Ellis has traveled the globe breaking down meetings, walking courses, and witnessing some of the greatest horses and races around the world. Ellis was at Churchill Downs Friday and Saturday for the Breeders' Cup World Championships and, on Sunday, spoke to a radio audience of hundreds of thousands back home in Australia about what he had seen. I was completely taken off guard by what came out of his mouth. 'I've been doing this for more than 40 years, and I can tell you that (Zenyatta's) performance was the greatest that I've ever seen by a horse that did not win the race,' he told the host. 'Some people will say that she shouldn't be named Horse of the Year because she didn't win. I would argue that her performance in defeat was much better than her winning effort a year earlier and should guarantee that she is named Horse of the Year. She was sqeezed out of the gate, forcing the jockey to check up a bit, then spent several hundred meters in a storm of kickback; that's why she dropped back so far', Ellis said. 'On the backstretch, she got behind 20 to 25 lengths and I'm not sure anyone thought she had any business even catching up to that field much less getting back in the race. The fact that she was able to make up that much ground on a track that deep and cuppy and give herself a chance to get up and win it in the last strides is one of the most impressive efforts I have seen on a racetrack. Blame ran a great race; you can't take anything away from him. He is a fantastic horse. But would he have been able to do the same? Zenyatta was the best horse on that racetrack, as she was in all of her previous 19 starts. By definition, isn't that what Horse of the Year is? Some people are going to argue that the horse that wins the Breeders' Cup Classic against the toughest field of the year should get the Horse of the Year, right? It didn't work out that way last year, did it?' · 102 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · Ellis also said he was struck by the way Zenyatta captured the hearts of racing fans and non-racing fans not only in the U.S. but all over the world. 'I have never seen a horse that touched people and brought them together like this one,' he said. 'She seems to connect with people unlike any horse I have ever seen; even people who don't follow racing at all. I rang a friend in Queensland after the races and he told me that his wife was extremely upset that Zenyatta had lost. These people do not follow American racing a lick, but they tuned in to see Zenyatta. Racing in America is not always seen in such a positive light in others parts of the world, but here is a champion and a story that people around the world are captivated and touched by. I don't think people are going to realize just how special she is until she's gone because there will not be another one like her.' When the radio interview was over, I told Ellis that I doubted that Zenyatta would be named Horse of the Year based upon many of the pre-Classic writings by some of the sport's most well-known Turf writers. He smiled. 'That's the thing,' he said. 'It doesn't matter if she's Horse of the Year or not. She's THE horse of the last 40 years. Which one do you think people are going to remember?' http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-zenyatta-horse-of-the-year-debate.aspx. · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and the Fable grows and grows and grows. I bet in the movie she gets behind about 50 lengths. Which I am still not sure how they will make it the slightist bit relevant as to how she did it. Seeing as how everyhorse that was on the lead fell back on it's own. Everyhorse who was behind them finished ahead of them. Then you say Zenyatta was farther bac than normal, well so was Blame. Usualy in his races Blame stalked much closer than he did in the Classic. If your going to go with the lie that Zenyatta fell back about 20 then you would have to say Blame was back about 15, as she never sat more than 5 lengths from him at any point. And he was the only horse she really had to be concerned with catching as he was the winner. I love they Claim she was squeezed out of the gate now too. She could have stepped over those horses had she chosen she was a beast compared to them, come on you can do better than that BS. · 101 days ago ·

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4everZenyatta · So, I have just read through some of these comments, the praises and the bashes. Every word. And I would just like to tell anyone who is trying to agrue with getthefacts, give it a rest. These Zenyatta bashers come up with lies apon lies just to prove us wrong. To them, it doesn't matter that Zenyatta won HoY or became the first female to win the BCC, it just matters that she was better than their favorite horse. getthefacts, the way that you find it is necessary to insult all of us, as well as the magnificent animal that is Zenyatta, is juvenile and ridiculous. Writing 'ha' in capitals over twenty-five times really isn't fazing any of us. Yes, we understand you find NYV's cold-hard facts hilarious, we could have udnerstand that from two or three 'ha's. Truly, most of the people that read your comments will think of them an immature. And if they dropped her back 50 lengths in a movie, it would be inaccurate and horse racing fans would chew the directors out for it, let alone Zenyatta's hard core fans, who would murder them if they got her blaze shape wrong. And if you are trynig to claim that Zenyatta was within 5 lengths of Blame through out the classic, that is one of the biggest pieces of bull shit I have ever read. First off, Blame was steadily in 4th-5th place during the race. Second, Through out almost half of the race, Zenyatta was at least 5-10 lengths off the LAST HORSE. She was uncomfortable with the track conditions and the lights, as well as the amount of kickback in her face. It also didn't help that Quality Road's jockey allowed QR to drop back so fast Smith almost had to stop Zenyatta. That was uncalled for and could have injured her and her jockey. I will never underestimate Zenyatta's haters. You people are dispicable. How can you say that she did nothing? She raced in graded/stakes company in almost every single race. getthefacts, you took it to a new low, calling such a magnificent animal an overrated mule. How dare you? You seem to lvoe Havre de Grace, well how would you feel if I called her an overrated mule? I belive that you would come back with multiple curses and try to tear me down. But I know that Havre de Grace is a classy mare with an wicked ability to run and she is not overrated by most. Majority of the people I have seen have said that she is a great mare, but not the greatest. That is true. I do not believe that she could have ever beaten Zenyatta. And I don't give a shit about whether you do. Zenyatta will be remeber for more than 5 years, you ignoramus. She will be remebered just as much as Cigar, Seattle Slew, Secretariat, or Rachel Alexandra. And if you try to counter that they won't, then I would like to ask why people will remeber Blame? They will remember him because of one race, one nose, because of one horse. Zenyatta. I used to have a particular hate coarsing through my veins for Garret Gomez, part of me still does, but when he saluted Zenyatta and it was said that he conforted Smith after the race, some of it left me. But the Hancocks, I would like to agree with whoever said this before me, they disgraced themselves by the way they spoke of Zenyatta. They acted as if she was nothing. I will never look at them the same way again. Anyway, off topic. getthefatcs, I would like to say that you gave me quite the laugh today as I read your ridiculous comments. My fiance did as well when I showed him, so for that, I thank you. And when you respond to this, using my username as a bash against me, pointing out all of me 'false' information, and using obnoxious juvenile 'insults', I'm sure we will laugh just as hard, if not harder, than we did this morning. So with ym first and last comment on this thread, I would like to thank the author of the piece for writing such a beautiful piece on one of the greatest racemares on Earth. Good-day to all, and enjoy the races. · 101 days ago ·

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4everZenyatta · I am sorry, I need to correct something in ym previous post, I said that SMith had to stop Zenyatta, I meant he almost had to, I know he didn't actually stop her. Thank you for understanding ;) · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · You must have seen a different Classic, I think you may be the first person who has actually been crazy enough to say Blame ran 4th and 5th for most of the race. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Etched sat in 5th until the turn and Haynesfield ran 4th but nice try. LOLOLOLOL As far as QR, thats just another hiliariously ridiculous excuse her loyalist try to make people believe happen to justify why she lost, instead of just saying she met a horse who was better at the time. She raced in graded stakes and company, really? What grade 1 horse did she defeat or compete against in 2010 until the classic? Maybe you know some the rest of us don't? As far as HDG goes, I don't really care much either way. I think shes a fine horse, better than Zenyatta on dirt. But far from a favorite or what I would consider great. I hope you and your finace did get a good rouse out of this, I know I a sure am so I hope others can feel half of the enjoyment I am getting from it. · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Maybe you can asnwer this for me, if you feel my comments are so horrible, false, comical, juvenille, and ridiculous as you said. Then why do you read and post on them? · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · ohh and before you try and say Blame ran 6th, no that Was LAL, who by the way was called by Durkin as being 10 back from the leaders, then you have Blame who sat about 2 more off of him. You may be right about Zenyatta sitting 5 off of Blame being total bullshit. After watching it appears she sat even closer around like 4 - 5 lengths, so thanks for clearing that up. And just for you I will say again over her career she did a lot of nothing. The horses she did beat were mostley dirt/turf horses who had to come face her on synthetics. Or sprinters who had to face her at longer distances. The few grade 1 synthetic runners she actually did defeat, were a joke, and proved to need multiple, multiple attempts over the surface to score a single win on it. She raced twice in open company, losing once to an absolute joke field when she had a weight advantage, while being the reigning Classic Champion, and supposed "best router" in the field. So ya that makes me think shes about as good as a MULE. HEE HAW HEE HAW · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · I wasn't really sure anyone conforted (I think you meant comforted) after the race as he was wailing to hard. lolol. That image, coupled with the Moss's expressions and Shireff walking off trying to avoid cameras and people, was like Christmas for me. · 101 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · facts - take your comments to Peter · 101 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · excuse me, take your comments to Peter Ellis. I'm sure he would love to hear from you. And also Steve Haskin. · 101 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · facts - Durkin didn't call the race. Trevor Denman did. · 101 days ago ·

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New York Vinnie · facts - it was Jerry and Ann Moss along with John Shirreffs that brought out Zenyatta to the public on Sunday morning for one last viewing. But what I understand cars were lined up four deep along the four lane thoroughfare trying to get a glimpse of her. Members of the media were astonishing by the grace handled by her connections. · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Yes you are right Vinnie, it was Denman. I got use to saying Durkin for long its still a habit. You do get Steve Haskins job is to sell books and magazines dont you. Of course he is going to write glorious things about Zenyatta as he wouldn't sell much if he didn't · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Thats sadley what most of the Media overhype is. An attempt to help patch a struggeling industry. And to keep interest flowing. However, In the long run they are doing far more damage. People are realizing how low of a standard we hold our so called "champions" . · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Ohh and Even tho I could care less about Peter Ellis, if you sent him, Haskin, or any other turf writer my direction Ill tell thim exactly how I fell about it. And show them the facts. Something they can't show for her. The only facts that standout are that she ran one good race on dirt in her career, beating Brownie Points, and GingerPunch. Then she beat dirt and turf horses on synthetics. Or else she beat milers and sprinters going 9 furlongs. Her breeders cup synthetic classic win. Was also over overmatched horses, who were nowhere near the synthetic talent she was. Most of whom needed upwards of 8 - 10 attempts to win on the surface just once. Then you couple that with the fact she carried the least weight, was most experienced at SA, and probably the lightest raced of the field. That makes that win irrelevant and laughable. The fact that some of you come on here and try to act as if it was some real accomplisment I find utterly hilarious and somewhat appauling. · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Then you add the people who try to consider her grade 1 record like it really means beans. Of her 13 grade 1's, 7 did not feature another grade 1 winner in them. So where was the accomplishment there? Of her 10 grade 1 wins over F/M on synthetics, she faced 2 whole horses who ever won a Grade 1 on synthetics, again where is the major accomplishment there? · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Then you must have understood or been told wrong. While she did draw a fairly large crowd, they were far from lined up 4 deep. Anyone who wanted to walk up and see her had plenty of room. · 101 days ago ·

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getthefacts · Just proved there is more myth to the supposed Legend than actual Legend. · 101 days ago ·

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Fly Down

Any news on where he's at or how he's doing?

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mrsmaryzinke · Did he stay in Arabia after the World Cup? http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/62060/fly-down-may-stay-in-arabia-after-world-cup · 179 days ago ·

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CraigBradshaw · the tapeta at meydan was not to his liking. · 124 days ago ·

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Belmont 143 - who deserves favoritism?

The betting odds are sure to be tight when it comes to the “big three” in Saturday’s Belmont Stakes. Of course, I am speaking of Kentucky Derby winner, Animal Kingdom, runner-up, Nehro, and Preakness victor, Shackleford. Read More

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RaTalk_Girl · Two weeks ago I decided on Nehro, Master of Hounds and Animal Kingdom. I usually change my mind 100 times or so before the race, but so far I like what I am seeing from my picks. · 245 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · No doubt in my mind that Animal Kingdom deserves favoritism ... whether he wins or not is the big question. · 244 days ago ·

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ugozenyatta · Master of Hounds, Eroupeans are used to longer distances... but weather if he would take to the track. Maybe Animal Kingdom · 244 days ago ·

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DannyKordsmeier · Eric, I'm with you on this one. Nehro's slow 4f work is typical for closers. He will come from much farther back than he did in The Derby and win it convincingly. I also like your Master of Hounds pick. · 244 days ago ·

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ruffian75 · Although Animal Kingdom is deserving of all the kudos being thrown his way, my question re: whether he wins or not, would be, "A horse that has been raced sparingly, with gaps of 7-10 weeks between races prior to the Derby, is now in the process of running his third race in 5 weeks, at the longest distances he's ever run. Wouldn't that be a strong reason to think he's due to bounce?" · 244 days ago ·

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12thCrown · Has anyone else noticed that DRF's listing of sires is off on their Belmont field listing? When they assigned post positions their sires didn't carry over. You get more accurate info on HRN!! · 244 days ago ·

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cpsoren121 · I believe AK is a deserving favorite, and can definitely get the distance. Also like Nehro... · 244 days ago ·

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blooy · public wise animal kingdom, but who is the derving one or horse to beat shackleford · 244 days ago ·

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KyOaksRunner · Master of Hounds looks really good right now but I'm going with Mucho Macho Man and Nehro as my top two. · 243 days ago ·

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dipak1 · there is no doubt in my mind that Animal Kingdom will win the Belmont with very ease, no other horse can now show their capability, it is too late for them. · 243 days ago ·

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ruffian75 · Did you know? For all prognosticators that look forthe favorite as the answer: If you bet a $2 win bet on EVERY horse from 1940 til now in the Belmont, you would be realizing a profit of $72.80. · 242 days ago ·

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4everZenyatta · I am going with Animal Kingdom. There is no way that Shaklford can win the Belmont. In the Wall Street Journal, it says that he's going to win. No way. He proved that in the Derby. If he faded to fourth in a mile and a quarter race, then he's going to be quite far back in a mile and a half race. · 242 days ago ·

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12thCrown · This outcome is a fresh dose of reality that in horse racing, there are no locks! (especially for younger horses) · 239 days ago ·

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xMystix · 12thCrown, so true! That's why I don't go out of my way to talk about Horse of the Year and Three-Year-Old Champion honors and bestow them on horses that have't raced all year to prove themselves. There is no sure lock for either. After all, we are only half way through the year. · 239 days ago ·

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I Am Willing to Give Drosselmeyer One More Chance

Have you ever become a fan of a horse who constantly disappoints you, but is able to do just enough to keep you on the hook a little bit longer? Sure you have … we all have. One such enigma for me is the four-year-old colt, Drosselmeyer. Sounds strange to call a winner of the Belmont Stakes a disapp...Read More

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MBPhipps · I am willing to give him a chance too. I look forward to cheering him on on Friday--especially since I saw him work at Belmont just yesterday! · 246 days ago ·

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zatt · Have fun down there, Melaina ... how did he look? Fantastic, I bet! · 246 days ago ·

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BayRoan · Yes, Brian, in Dross's sophomore yr, he was on again/off again. But if the Belmont was any indication (as opposed to a straight-up fluke), he likes it there. Now, 9 times out of 10, horses wont come back the same after an injury, so I expected Dross to be on again/off again when he returned. But I imagine that last win gave him his head & heart back, so I'd like to think he's got this next one. · 246 days ago ·

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BayRoan · BTW, I've been in love with him since right before the Derby, so I know where you're coming from! ;) · 246 days ago ·

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KyOaksRunner · I've never really warmed up to Drosselmeyer for some reason but I really liked his last race. I'm going to try and beat him with Birdrun and Eldaafer I think. · 245 days ago ·

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ugozenyatta · Yep, Zazu, Mine that Bird etc · 244 days ago ·

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bellesforever1 · I too was smitten by D. hoping to see him make us both happy ..also hoping A.A. will make me very happy with an on the board finish. · 244 days ago ·

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Drosselmeyer Returns to Belmont’s Winner’s Circle

At long last, Drosselmeyer returned to the winner's circle, taking yesterday's One Count Stakes at Belmont Park by a determined neck. It was his first win since scoring by three-quarters of a length over Fly Down in last year's Belmont Stakes at odds of 13-1.Read More

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cniema5 · I know he's not perfect, but I've been a big fan of Drosselmeyer since the first time I saw him. So happy to see him win again! · 267 days ago ·

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BayAreaBackstretch · Such a good looking, well bred horse, I can certainly understand becoming a big fan at first sight. Hopefully there will be more big efforts for him, and he will become that rare Belmont winner to do big things as an older horse. · 267 days ago ·

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BayRoan · I'm so glad to see the Ol' Man (meaning Dross, not Mott! LOL) make it to the winner's circle again. I know it did his head a world of good! · 267 days ago ·

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teamo · One word describes Drosselmeyer: SLOW. Gonna have to do a heck of a lot better than a mile & 1/4 in 2:06 against a tiring rival, and whatever ridiculously slow time he ran the Belmont Stakes in, to win against REAL older horses. · 267 days ago ·

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medlocke · I think it's the old "horse for course" with Drosselmeyer. Belmont seems to be where he run's his best races. · 267 days ago ·

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Nick Zito Can Go the Distance

It’s been a few years since Hall of Fame trainer Nick Zito experienced that most magical moment of seeing his horse cross the Kentucky Derby wire before all the rest. 17 years to be exact. Back then, Zito won it twice in a span of four runnings with Strike the Gold in 1991 and Go For Gin in 1994, bu...Read More

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DeadHeat · At a mile I do not think he is slow at all. In fact I would not call him slow. I just feel that either he is a miler or that his moves are very ill timed. He makes these huge middle moves then flattens out. The only race he did not do that in this year was the Holly Bull. If his moves are ill timed than if he's allowed to wait a little longer before unleasing that kick he will be a huge threat. If not, then I would stick to mile races, so that he can still make that move and have enough left in the stretch. · 285 days ago ·

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mdracing69 · Dialed In will almost certainly take too much Derby action. In an evenly matched field I cannot see myself backing a horse coming from the clouds. He needs everything to go right to win and kudos to Zito if he gets the job done but it will be without my money. · 285 days ago ·

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zatt · He may, but I'm wondering what the favorite might be this year ... is 7-1 possible? · 285 days ago ·

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tpatelzick · I cant see uncle mo being 5-1 maybe 6-1 if, he does next weeks work on three legs. DI should be the same. Both horse need the "good trip" to win · 285 days ago ·

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Waya · I am not sure if Dialed In is the horse, but there is no trainer I would have rather train my potential Derby winner. While other trainers seem to train for a mile, Nick knows how to his horses ready for the longer distances. · 285 days ago ·

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Waya · Great article! · 285 days ago ·

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DipakRoy · i put money on both horses in previous races, Dialed In bring me money but not Nehro, in Lousiana derby i put $200.00 on Nehro, but he lost by hd, and i lost my money, it was 35/1 shot, i was 100% sure that day he was gpoing to win the Lousiana derby? but it was bad luck. · 285 days ago ·

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DipakRoy · i trust Nick Zito 100%, it is now on the hands of Julien Leparaoux, how he is going to manouvare the horse. · 285 days ago ·

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tiznow · I think 7/1 for the favorite to go off at is very realistic. Last year we had Lucky who was very consistent and Super Saver go off similar. With the doubts people are casting on Mo, I can definitely see it around there again for the favorite. · 284 days ago ·

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Victoire Pisa Wins World Cup for Japan

The 2011 edition of the Dubal World Cup ended up being a showcase for Japan as horses from that ailing country took the top two spots with Victoire Pisa and Transcend. Transcent went straight to the front over a tiring Tapeta surface at Maydan with eventual winner Victoire Pisa sitting back in last ...Read More

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medlocke · This year's Dubai World Cup really served to remind me how much I truly miss the race being run on the conventional dirt at Nad Al Sheba. Victoire Pisa had to come 5 or 6 wide to forge to the front early just to inject any pace at all into the race, as it was run at a terrible dottle. That move turned out to be the best tactical move of the race. As Victoire Pisa took the lead and never looked back. · 317 days ago ·

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Gio Ponti, Twice Over Head Deep World Cup Field

Twice Over (GB) is the tepid morning line favorite for Saturday’s Dubai World Cup. The 14-horse field also includes Fly Down, Gio Ponti, and three intriguing Japanese entrants. Read More

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Fly Down Might Not Return to US

Fly Down, who has earned more than $1 million while placing in some of America’s most prestigious races, including the Belmont Stakes (gr. I) and the Breeders’ Cup Classic (gr. I), may not return to the United States following his start in the $10 million Dubai World Cup (UAE-I) March 26.Purchased l...Read More

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arazi · I'm definitely bummed that Fly Down won't come back. He was my favorite for the Classic this year, at least among the older horses. I don't think he really got to show how talented he was last year. Take Z and Blame out of that Classic, and he wins by head over Lookin at Lucky. Well, it sounds like they are dead set against not coming back... but who knows. If he runs huge or even wins in Dubai, that might change their plans a bit. · 320 days ago ·

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Dubai World Cup, Sheema Classic, Duty Free barrier draw and DubaiRaceNight.com odds

Listed below is the barrier draw for the 2011 Dubai World Cup, Dubai Sheema Classic, and Dubai Duty Free, all Group 1 races run at Meydan on Saturday. The unofficial, but suggested DubaiRaceNight.com odds are listed as well. The barriers were drawn in a ceremony on Wednesday night from t...Read More

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Fly Down has World Cup class and stamina

Fly Down progressed well throughout his three-year-old campaign and his last race of the year was his best, finishing third behind Blame and Zenyatta in the Breeders' Cup Classic (Group One) at Churchill Downs in November.The best of the three-year-olds in the race, he confirmed his place among the ...Read More

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Expected Dubai World Cup meeting fields released

The Dubai Racing Club released the potential fields for the seven thoroughbred races at Meydan on 26 March. Dubai World Cup probables: (Alphabetical order) Bold Silvano, Buena Vista, Cape Blanco, Fly Down, Gio Ponti, Gitano Hernando, Monterosso, Musir, Poet’s Voice, Prince Bishop, Richard’s Ki...Read More

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Gio Ponti, Fly Down work in advance of Dubai travel

The Daily Racing Form’s Mike Welsch reported on Monday that both Gio Ponti and Fly Down had their final big American workouts prior to shipping for the Dubai World Cup (G1). Gio Ponti, fourth in the race last year, missed a scheduled turf prep and comes into the big race without a run since be...Read More

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Five weeks out – projecting the Dubai World Cup field

Some adjustments have been made to our projection for the 2011 Dubai World Cup field, which will be updated one more time after Super Thursday. DubaiRaceNight.com does not have full knowledge of which of these horses have received official invitations to the big race. The projected field...Read More

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Dubai World Cup Doings

At $10 Million the Dubai World Cup is the richest race in the world, so it can be no surprise when many of the best horses from all over the world flock to the Middle East to contest the ten furlong race contested over Meydan‘s Tapeta surface. The popularity of the World Cup, to be run on the evenin...Read More

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keibakate · Buena Vista! Not sure how the Meydan's poly runs like... dirt or turf or inbetween. Buena Vista will hit the board either way. She ALWAYS hits the board. · 364 days ago ·

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RyanNewport · Richard's Kid best be getting in!! · 364 days ago ·

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KeithStrouhal · What about last years heart break loser Lizards Desire ? · 364 days ago ·

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zatt · Lizard's Desire contracted lamanitis last Summer. I have not heard about his condition of late. I will try to find out the latest news. · 364 days ago ·

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ajump08 · If the race draws up with these exact 14 horses, it may actually serve its purpose as the climax of racing around the world. Japanese HOY, top South African, American Turf Champion. Grade I winners Red Desire, Drosselmeyer, Richard's Kid, Crowded House, etc. being left out of the race! This may end up being the greatest international culmination of horses ever. · 364 days ago ·

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KyOaksRunner · If Twirling Candy goes I'll be rooting for him no doubt. Mendip is kind of intriguing, he looked great in his last race! I also like Twice Over and Bold Silvano looked nice in his win last week! · 364 days ago ·

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danmunn · There is no chance that Drosselmeyer will fail to make the DWC cut. I'm pretty sure 14 runners is not a cut off too. Bold Silvano was exceptional last time but I honestly feel Morning Line could steal the win off some nice front end fractions · 363 days ago ·

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zatt · I am not sure where you are getting your information, but ... the Dubai World Cup is limited to 14 starters, and Drosselmeyer will not be one of the first 14 invited. · 363 days ago ·

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danmunn · I was told by a Dubai contact that Drosselmeyer would be one of the ones with a direct invite and that the Mott camp had already been sent an invite? Cant work out why Gitano Hernando would merit an invite in this deep a field? Not disputing it though. · 363 days ago ·

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zatt · Different than what my sources say ... we shall see. I hope Drosselmeyer is one of the 14. · 363 days ago ·

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danmunn · May just be wrong information coming my way....Hope he is one of them though! · 363 days ago ·

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peteclara · What's happened with Richard's Kid? They pulled him out of the Breeders Cup Classic, supposedly for this race. Is there something wrong with him or something wrong with his owners? And why did they take him away from Baffert? He was doing a great job with Richard's Kid. · 362 days ago ·

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medlocke · I think a new era had began for the Dubai World Cup in 2010 at Meydan. What happened in 2010, I fear, will now be likely in many Dubai World Cup's to follow. Horses that show up early for the carnival and get two or three run's under their belt on Meydan's tapeta surface will be more of a factor in deciding the outcome of the Dubai World Cup than horses that ship all the way to Dubai for just that one race. Take last year's DWC for example. Gloria De Campeao, Lizard's Desire, and Allybar ran #1,2, 3. All three of those horses showed up at the beginning of the carnival and ran well in handicaps prior to DWC night. Gio Ponti's 4th place finish, and Mastery's 5th place finish were best among the shippers. I personally think this year is likely to be very much the same. Mike De Kock already has 3 likely starters for the DWC that are burning the tapeta up. Bold Silvano, winner of the Al Maktoum Challenge Rd. 2, Musir, 2nd in the Firebreak Stakes and winner of last year's UAE 2000 Guineas and Derby, and Golden Sword who has one win and one place at this year's carnival. Then there's Godolphin's Mendip. Who won the Al Maktoum Challenge Rd. 1, and took 2 races on the tapeta last season. He really look's the kind of horse that could be a big player in this year's DWC to me. Gitano Hernando finished 6th in last year's DWC, and 5th in this year's Al Maktoum Challenge Rd. 2. But he's had troubled trips in both races, and is an outstanding synthetic surface horse. That's why I believe Gio Ponti's connection's should already have him in Dubai preparing to prep in the Al Maktoum Challenge Rd. 3 instead of in the U.S. prepping on turf. JMO. · 355 days ago ·

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Giant Oak Surprises Donn Foes

Giant Oak had gone 14 consecutive starts without winning a race from the summer of 2009 to fall of 2010. In a span of a little more than two months, he has bagged a pair of grade I victories.With Shaun Bridgmohan aboard for trainer Chris Block, the son of Giant's Causeway rallied from off the pace w...Read More

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OldAndrykowski · what's with Fly Down...AP Indy, S Slew , must be from mom's side of family http://www.horseracingnation.com/horse/Fly_Down · 365 days ago ·

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OldAndrykowski · The Donn Handicap Stakes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMY90cjIOVM&feature=player_embedded · 365 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Fly Down has bigger things down the line. I look for big improvement from this one.BTW In the Donn Giant Oak ran over that field with no exertion. · 365 days ago ·

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blooy · that he does,but i wasn't surprised at oak. if fly down didn't finisht them off it would be oak. greek, wasn't a strong closer as those two. anyway fly down should make a come back. · 365 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · It was only a prep race for Fly Down.Personally I bet Morning Line because the has been playing to speed. I was surprised a closer even got up let alone win. · 364 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · correction-Track was playing to speed · 364 days ago ·

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Nicky Z and the Sons of ‘Shaft

Question: Who is the man that would risk his neck for his brother man? Question: Who is the cat that won’t cop out when there‘s danger all about? The answer to both of those questions is Nick Zito of course. How is this trainer who will celebrate his 63rd birthday on Sunday and is 17 years removed f...Read More

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Waya · Love the Shaft reference! It looks like the fortunes of Zito and Mineshaft will be closely alligned. I like them both! · 368 days ago ·

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KyOaksRunner · Nick Zito had such a tough year in 2010, a good year but tough. He came close to winning so many big races last year only to lose. I think with all the talented horses he has in his stables this year this could be a banner year for him. I love Morning Line and Square Eddie in the Donn, it would be awesome to see them run 1-2. · 368 days ago ·

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ConnieMatia · Mr. Zito has my utmost respect... Dialed In and Fly Down could make this a banner year for the New Yorker. I'm hoping so...:) · 368 days ago ·

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coolcoleman · <3 Mineshaft Zito CCM Morningline flydown robert lapenta et al great barn and its nice to see the great barn do great work · 368 days ago ·

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zatt · I have not many people who aren't fond of Nick. I'll say it again ... he's a bad mutha, and 2011 could be a very big year for him. · 367 days ago ·

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Fly Down, Morning Line Headline Donn

How strong is the field for the $500,000 Donn Handicap (gr. I)? Included among the nine starters is a horse that enters off a win in a Breeders’ Cup race, another that bagged the Clark Handicap (gr. I) last out, and a third that set a track record in his season debut. And none of those three ar...Read More

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The Top 10 Lists

With all due respect to the Daily Racing Form’s Mike Watchmaker, he has his, and I have mine. Here are The Top 10 Lists … 3-year-old Males 1. Uncle Mo 2. To Honor and Serve 3. Dialed In 4. Boys at Tosconova 5. Tapizar 6. Premier Pegasus 7. Comma to the Top 8. Santiva 9. Jaycito 10. Machen Read More

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arazi · Great lists. Have to agree on most every list but the 3yo's. Kathmanblu, Big Drama, Paddy, Switch and Fly Down look like standouts. I think the Derby is still a crapshoot. · 372 days ago ·

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Curlin1234 · I have a feeling Machen, Morning Line, Rule, Evening Jewel and Life At Ten will all move up thier respective lists as the year progresses. · 372 days ago ·

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zatt · We should learn a lot more about the Eastern older males in the Donn. Fly Down, Morning Line, and Rule all face a tough task. · 371 days ago ·

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BayRoan · To H&S, Dancinginherdreams, no pick for older male, toss up between Switch & Blind Luck, Big Drama, Paddy, toss-up between Harmonious & Shared Account. These are crosses between who I think it will be and sentimental faves. · 371 days ago ·

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cigarorrison · Rule was very impressive 1st off the layoff....he will improve greatly as the year goes on. Nice to see Aggie Engineer and Shared Account on your lists. I'm a little suprised not to see Chamberlain Bridge in the top 10 turf list (although he is just a sprinter). Looking forward to seeing Machen progress this year. Great lists as always. · 371 days ago ·

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zatt · Thanks Cigar ... yes, Chamberlain was close on both the sprint and turf list, not sure where to put him. My guess is Morning Line turns the tables on Rule in the Donn, but I have big respect for him. Solid selections, BayRoan ... not ready to Honor & Serve ahead of Mo, though. ;-) · 371 days ago ·

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tiznow · Morning Line I haven't gave up on you yet...hoping he rebounds with a nice performance in the Donn. Caracortado=grass...I hope the connections stick with this simple equation. Dialed In jumped to my number 2 but one could very well argue to keep To Honor And Serve at 2, but Uncle Mo is clealy the 1. I'm still keep Dancing at my 1 over Kathmanblu...I loved how she was flying at the end off the layoff. · 371 days ago ·

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Donn Hopefuls Work in Florida

Three probable starters in the $500,000 Donn Handicap (gr. I) Feb. 5 at Gulfstream Park -- Giant Oak, Eldaafer and Rule -- posted workouts during the morning of Jan. 30.At Gulfstream, Virginia Tarra Trust’s 5-year-old Giant Oak worked five furlongs in :59 3/5 and Alghuwayriyah’ Stable’s 6-year-old g...Read More

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tiznow · i really hope IWR does not go in the Donn...he needs an allowance race to get some foundation back. Throw him in a G1 off the long layoff again? Look what happened last year, he very clearly needed a race and you bring him back in a G2 at 1 1/8 and then bring him right back in a G2 after he very clearly showed how tired he got. IEAH imo doesn't put the best interest of the horse first. This horse has always worked lights out, doesn't mean jump right into a G1. · 372 days ago ·

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tiznow · G2 then G3 last yr, but you get my point. Ease him back in...don't throw him into the fire. · 372 days ago ·

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Fly Down - Pedigree

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Mineshaft	A. P. Indy	Seattle Slew
		Weekend Surprise
	Prospectors Delite	Mr. Prospector
		Up The Flagpole
Queen Randi	Fly So Free	Time For A Change
		Free to Fly
	Randi's Queen	Mr. Prospector
		Sunny David