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Discreet Cat

9 year old Horse | Retired

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Godolphin

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Saeed bin Suroor

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Kentucky (USA) by E. Paul Robsham - [Add Data]

Pedigree:

Forestry - Pretty Discreet by Private Account

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6.67/10

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The Freak is Back

Freak is a term thrown around way to often in the sport of horse racing…..after Sunday’s Fountain of Youth, any doubts about a certain Michael Matz trainee and his “freak” status, should have been erased. Union Rags, only a head away from an unbeaten season, a champion season, made his return to the...Read More

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Floridaf · Most impressive race from Rags. He now has me almost entirely convinced that this is his year. Very professional looking stretch run. I, nor anyone else it seems, has a bad thing to say about his FOY win. · 89 days ago ·

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cpsoren121 · Leparoux rode him prefectly. Union Rags had a lot left in the tank after that stretch run. · 89 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · Great race of Union Rags. I am a big fan of Matz! · 89 days ago ·

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gore323 · what freak? who did he beat? · 89 days ago ·

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Ann Maree · I'm still skeptical, although I do hope he is the "real deal". Without Algorithms in that race, he didn't have much of a test, but he did look great and he gave a very professional performance. Hope we get to see him in at least one more race before the Derby. Last year's run up to the Derby with Uncle Mo and all the hype that surrounded him, I'm still reluctant to jump on board with this horse. Just not ready to "fall in love", yet!! · 89 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · Using logic has and will serve one well, but it's okay to get excited now and then, and in this case, how could you help yourself? So far so good on getting the distance. I hope he continues on his path to meet up with Creative Cause in the Derby. Impressive move as described in this blog, and winning i a hand ride, plus he's quite the magnificent physical specimen. Really showing maturity in the F.O.Y. The jockey change turned out to be no problem and would you say a plus? If he repeats this kind of performance against a larger tougher field in the 9f. Florida Derby, you might put freak in all caps. I hope Algorithms can meet him there. · 89 days ago ·

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ruhlmann · LOL, Who did he beat? What's out there? It's still to early to say. It's the way he did, it was effortless. · 89 days ago ·

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NickGunritz · I think he was impressive, but I really everybody is going way overboard about their praise of yesterdays performance. I you want to compare apples with apples, look at El Padrino's allowance win at the same distance on the same track and tell me that's not as impressive if not more. By the way, EP came home his final 2 and a half furlongs in 29 4/5 in that race while also in hand, while beating a top quality horse that was running a good race. Your eyes can be deceived and the fact tgat discreet dancer was backing up made this performance look way more impressive than it was. I guess I'm saying lets slow down on handing him the derby. · 89 days ago ·

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Mike in SB · Union Rags looked great and Leparoux seems to fit the horse perfectly. My guess is the Florida Derby will not be a very exciting race now, the other top horses will look elsewhere for graded stakes money, since that is the most important thing in Derby preps today, but Union Rags is certainly the Derby favorite now. · 89 days ago ·

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El Kabong · He sured looked good at 1 1/16 and he should, most Dixie Union's do but there are only a small handfull of Dixie Union's offspring who are accomplished at 9F and none that I know of at 10F. But one son, Grasshopper, did stretch out to finish second to Street Sense in the Travers(10F). While they do not share the same mare, their tale female line is extremely simiilar. Tempo and Grass Skirt both share influences of Mr. Prospector and Nijinsky so there is hope for Union Rags to get the classic distance. I suspect he will do well at 9F but there is still that quesion of success at 10F lurking in his pedigree. You may be sticking your neck out a little early with the tag of freak but lets see how he handles 9F's with better company. · 89 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Nick, EP was all out in a stretch duel while UR was being wrapped up in the final sixteenth. EP felt the whip, UR barely saw it. EP was running the entire length of a very long and straigh FG stretch, while UR ran for about three strides on the turn, made the lead then cruised. EP should have finished faster considering he was all out and had a longer length of straight stretch to run over. · 89 days ago ·

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gocashking · Do you really think there is a huge difference between a horse that felt the whip and one that was "wrapped up" for the last 4 or 5 strides of the race? Is a 1,200 pound thoroughbred moving at top speed THAT easy to slow down? It's not like UR stopped on a dime. Leparoux roused him on the mid-point of the turn and entering the stretch, then eased up just inside the 1/16th pole when he looked at the infield big screen. You yourself noted in your blog that he ran 6.4 seconds in the final 1/16th. I don't buy that horses move much quicker at all when "feeling the whip" vs. not being whipped. In fact, some sulk and stop running when whipped. This "Cruising" business is over-rated in my opinion. How much faster do you think he'd run if presses the final 5/16ths? 2,3 4 seconds??? I'd say MAYBE a couple of fifths. Remeber some horses do NOT run faster when challenged (although I am not suggesting that would be the case with this horse). I just don't buy that horses who "cruised" the last 1/16th can run way faster when challenged longer as you seem to suggest. I've seen way too many in the past 35 years who did not. · 89 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Gocash, he was wrapped up well before 3/4 strides, at least 1/16th out, which if a horse has a 25ft stride, a pretty good sized stride, is right about 13 strides. The average stride is right around 20ft or so, calculating to over 16 strides. UR also had a shorter, much much shorter stretch run, meaning more of his final quarter mile was spent turning than El Padrino. Based on physics, it is a lot easier to run quicker while running straight than it is while turning. El Padrino was also a sharper horse, already having a 8.5f allowance win this year, before the Risen Star, compared to UR, who was coming off a 17 week layoff, and was nowhere near fully cranked. Your question of is a 1,200lbs animal moving at top speed being that easy to slow down, well ask the commentators and Leparoux. Ask him how easy it was to drive UR from the gate to get position then switch off and relax, then asking him to accelerate on the turn, then finally wrapping him up. Obviously, with a horse that listens as well as UR, it would seem fairly easy compared to most other racehorses. The point is one horse was all out, running straighter for longer, while being asked for his best, while the other wasn't even being ridden hard, was even wrapped up well before the wire, and had a much shorter length of straight ground. EP should have run faster, that is the point. · 89 days ago ·

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driveon · I'm not sure why I get logged in as different usernames (I am also gocashking-just to be transparent). My question was to you; not the "commentators or rider". How much faster than 6.4 do you believe the horse would have run "if asked"? I don't need commentators to tell me what I am seeing - I've been watching a lot longer than most of them. I've also seen MANY of these "under wraps" types go down in flames when faced with a faster pace or different race dynamics - go watch Bellamy Road's Wood or Sydney's Candy's SA Derby and you'll see for yourself. The point is - and I believe it to be valid - there is not THAT great a difference between the speed a "wrapped up" winner is travelling at then one who finishes under a drive because you can't slow a speeding thoroughbred down that quickly, and, there is NEVER a guarantee that when faced with a stretch duel in a subsequent race the "wrapped up" winner will run faster or succeed. · 88 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · driveon, the rider is the best one to ask to get your answer, and Leparoux was able to get this horse to switch on, off, then on, then off again. With a horse that listens to you that well, yes it is easy to slow him down, especially when he was never running full bore down the stretch. He was never asked the was taken back in hand. Look at RA's Mother Goose, that is a prime example of a horse that could have run much faster had the jockey not eased her back. Last year's Donn, is more towards your example, JV let QR keep running, didn't bring him back he let him keep going. UR and RA were both geared down considerably. You also fail to acknowledge the fact that one had a much shorter strech of straight ground to run over, during the final quarter mile. That makes a difference as well. When the horse is geared down and runs more time turning than straight, than the horse he is being compared to, then yes, it makes a difference. · 88 days ago ·

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driveon · If you watch the replay, you will notice Leparoux stopped moving his hands exactly 6 strides from the finish - I stand corrected. It is DEFINITELY not 13 strides and the horse did not slow considerably in those last 6 strides, either. Very impressive run, yes. Was there a ton more in the tank if needeed? Unknown and not measurable. · 88 days ago ·

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driveon · So, when a rider pumps his hands and shakes the reins and shows the horse the stick as Leparoux did inside the 1/16th pole, that's not "asking"? What is then? Actually after heving watched the race again, it was just outside the 70 yd. pole that the rider stopped moving his hands. I suggest you watch the replay a time or two. The horse was CLEARLY asked to run just inside the 1/16th pole. · 88 days ago ·

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travel_vic · When a race has been won, the trainer will have a fit if the rider continues to prompt him. Over exertion, when it is not required is a big No No · 88 days ago ·

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driveon · I get that, Vic - that has nothing to do with the point I'm making... · 88 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · driveon, Have you ever heard of keep the horse's concentration? Something UR is known to lose very easily. From the top of the stretch, down the lane, he did slow down. And again, what about the physics of running straight as compared to turning. Answer that please. That is pure science. UR had a much shorter stretch, do you deny that? One horse had a full head of momentum, a target, and a longer stretch. EP should have run faster, all things considered he should have run much faster than UR. · 88 days ago ·

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driveon · I not once mentioned El Padrino. My point is this "under wraps" business is WAY overplayed in the media, including here, and, he was not "wrapped up" for the entire final 1/16th of the race. Go take a look at the replay. · 88 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I thought MV had the best run considering EP kept boring in (tired) and ran at FG which has a one second variant slower than GP. · 88 days ago ·

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Cardly Knot · Distance shouldn't be a big deal for U.R. - Northern Dancer, Mr. P, Native Dancer top⊥ 2 of the top TC winners Slew top& Secretariat bottom. With Algorithms scratched, there was only 1 high ranked horse Discreet Dancer to make the race even interesting, while News Pending was way overlooked, IMO. We all know UR wouldv'e beat Hansen granter the wire were a few more strides further down the stretch. Vic, were you referring to all trainer pushing past the wire? I know Baffert prefers them ridden out consistently past the wire. · 88 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Cardly Knot, once you find yourself looking past the Grandsire and Great Grand Dam you are looking horses with little no impact or simillarities to the original horse. · 88 days ago ·

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Cardly Knot · Cocoa2, No secret, every pedigree snob goes 5 generations back, and uses inbreeding crosses and dosage to gauge possible outcomes, which also inturn lean much towards the dam's side. Rule of thumb is: every 3rd generation is apt to regenerate esp on the top. I admit, I'm no expert, but statistics and patterns often clarify. Discreet Dancer proved this, as did Uncle Mo. Correct me if I'm wrong, Union Rags isn't NOT the first foal out of Tempo? Yet first mating of Dixie Union/Tempo? UR turned to be a hybrid from the mating - you can tell by his eyes and coat, no less. · 88 days ago ·

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hshfarms · I am high on Union Rags... but the comparisons between him and Uncle Mo are getting old. We will never know if Uncle Mo could get 10F, he was sick before derby time. Then he was rushed into Breeder's Cup off an 8F race. How is that building a foundation? He was mishandled worse that any horse in the recent history. We won't know until at least the Florida Derby if Union Rags can get the distance, my bet is he can. But the comparisons between him and MO are trivial. · 88 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Cardly Knot, I'm no expert on breeding either but I do like Dixieland Band in the mix. He has done well as a broodmare sire and had two very good turf horses. · 88 days ago ·

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Cardly Knot · TRIVIA: How many other Indian Charlies and Discreet Cats won going 10f? HINT: You could've tossed Mo and DDancer just from the Pletcher factor. · 88 days ago ·

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cocoa2 · Okay, there was never anyway Mo was going 10f. He struggled a lot at just 9f, 10f was out of the question. Second, saying 4th and on generations matter is like saying, "This horse goes back to the Godolphin Arabian, he must be amazing! · 88 days ago ·

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Cardly Knot · icy, Dixieland band top or bottom did well; worked for Street Sense as broodmare. I agree. Union Rags looks much like Dixie Union, who was one heck of good looking sire. I hope we all get to see Union Rags carry that on, regardless the TC outcome. · 88 days ago ·

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Winplacsho · I don't think there's any doubt Union Rags should be at the top of the heap right now, but a freak? I'm just not sure he really beat anything. He beat Discreet Dancer, who never routed before & was loose on the lead in both his starts sprinting. Other than that I think the field had mainly allowance horses at best. · 87 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Winplacesho, there has not been a race, except for possibly the Holy Bull, that anyone can say that the winner beat a field of top flight horses. Even that race has things that people can nit pick, like Hansen needed the race/was too fresh, etc, or that some of the others didn't enjoy the sloppy going. Also, remember that UR was coming off a 4 month layoff and had every right to not turn in that type of eye catching performance. He sat off of slow splits and came home quick enough to make a decent time out of it. · 87 days ago ·

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Out Of Bounds Pedigree Profile

Out Of Bounds is on most Derby Watch Lists. His pedigree, conformation and running style all play a part in determining how far Out Of Bounds can go in top company.Read More

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Keith W.L. · Do you think Laurie that the fact that Out of · 136 days ago ·

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johnsnare · I have my doubts about the Derby distance. It is usually tough to outrun your pedigree. · 135 days ago ·

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ghelguera · I have no doubts about his pedigree. Look at the way he closed and galloped out, he's a star in the making! · 135 days ago ·

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annmatt · I fell in love with this colt watching him in the Sham. He's huge, like his BM Sire, and I just hope he can stay sound. As for distance, I agree with you Laurie...nobody in his near family has run more than 1 1/8...somewhere in that line you would think you could find one somewhere that got at least 1 1/4...and, you can forget the · 135 days ago ·

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DipakRoy · it looks from the first glance that it is indeed good class, but i am not in a hurry mood to judge at this moment, lot of horse gas to come before derby and display their class, so at this moment i am not in a hurry to nselect any horse, irish trainer O'Brien nhas couple of entry and the pedigree looks very good, let me see other's horse class as the time goes by,thank you. · 135 days ago ·

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IronMaidens · Keith W. L, Based upon his pedigree and conformation, I expect Out Of Bounds will be a strong contender in the Derby Preps up to 1 1/8 miles. How her performs beyond that distance will be decided by the colt's own will to win and training. We've seen horses out run their pedigrees in the past, but nothing so far indicates that this talented colt is one who will. Only future races will show us that. · 135 days ago ·

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The Windfall Angler · "The colt's own will to win and training," as one poster put it, are likelier--by far--to be determinative, than pedigree. Meanwhile, let's hear if for Affirmed! (What with his Triple Crown reign, now 34+ years (and counting..) · 103 days ago ·

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The Windfall Angler · "The colt's own will to win and training," as one poster put it, are likelier--by far--to be determinative, than pedigree. Meanwhile, let's hear if for Affirmed! (What with his Triple Crown reign, now 34+ years (and counting..) · 103 days ago ·

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Kentucky Derby Profile - Out of Bounds

With a win in the Sham Stakes already in the books, Out of Bounds hopes to continue his quick ascent...Read More

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tony bada bing · He caught an ideal trip behind the early speed in Sham, not sure he's nothing more than a 6 furlong to 1-turn miler... · 108 days ago ·

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zatt · I'm not sure either, Tony, but I kinda like his chances. · 108 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · I ilke this West Coast runner. Out of Bounds ranks #3 on AndyScoggin's Derby Top 10 (v.2) · 108 days ago ·

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Floridaf · I am waiting for the San Felipe before I make any decisions regarding his chances. He beat a tough competitor when he beat Secret Circle, but I have my doubts on SC's ability to get any distance. · 108 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · His lineage shows nothing but speed and stamina. Don't be fooled by his sire Discreet Cat who in his first attemt at a route failed because of a throat abcess but keep in mind he also failed after that in sprints so it was the illness not the distance. He is bottom heavy with stamina where he should be. Sure he had a nice trip but he looks to be a good one, give him a chance. BTW: Why not limit the fieldto 18 or 19 horses, whatever it takes to not have the #1 horse running straight at the rail, half of the KD starters don't belong. · 108 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · He's a colt that I wanted to know more about. Thanks for the info, Brian. · 108 days ago ·

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travel_vic · So many of the winners of this race just happen to be in great form for a week or two in their career. This far in advance it is next to impossible to figure out just who thiat might be · 108 days ago ·

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Not So Discreet

Discreet Cat impresses on both Coasts with Out of Bounds and Discreet Dancer!Read More

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brooklyn.steve · Discreet Cat is moving quickly up the sire ladder, but he does have his compitition. As you mentioned, Bernardini is still hot. While Alpha won yesterday, Casual Trick may be the best of them all over time. And then there is the late Indian Charlie, who this year could also have 2 horses in the starting gate for the KY Derby in Ever So Lucky and Souper Speedy. Right now, it's a 3 way photo finish to the wire as to who is the best 3yo male sire. · 139 days ago ·

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zatt · He will be an excellent sire, but will his offspring excel at two-turns? And Brooklyn Steve, good call on Indian Charlie ... I would add Liaison to the pair you mentioned. · 139 days ago ·

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Floridaf · I think out of the three mentioned Indian Charlie colts, Liaison has the best chance of winning the Derby, but I really like Ever So Lucky, too. ESL was asked to route his second time out and just missed hanging on for the win. A little more experience could go a long way for him. · 139 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · Too early to tell that Brian. Out of Bounds looks like one that can handle more distance, and DD looked to have a lot more in the tank. Elusive Quality has sired some top horses at distances, just look at Raven's Pass and Smarty. QR also was grade one placed at 10f. He could go either way with Forestry, but I do believe that the UAE Derby is longer than a mile. 10f may have been to much for DC, but during his prime that speed could be carried a good ways. · 139 days ago ·

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terri.zeitz · Check out the article in the Saratogan on Dec 7th, "Rising Stars: Discreet Dancer Dazzles in Debut", The article talks about his extremely talented and classy dam and her female family. His dam, West Side Dancer, is out of Gone West. The Gone West line has produced Excluswive Quality, Smarty Jones, Awesome Feather, and Quality Road. Tood Pletcher said Discreet D was not at all tired after a mile and can go the classic distances. Look at his dam's line to see that quality. Both he and Awesome Feather are on facebook. Pletcher has a Little Red monster in his barn. And you can only bet on him in futures, as he has 4 to 5 odds at the track in his first 2 races. · 134 days ago ·

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Out of Bounds Eyes San Felipe Stakes

Surprise Sham Stakes winner Out of Bounds will go next in the March 10 San Felipe Stakes at Santa Anita Park. Read More

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Shining some light on the Sham

Laura Pugh previews the action in this Saturday's Sham Stakes.Read More

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Floridaf · I'm on the fence about Secret Circle and completely agree with your assessment of the colt's abilities. If he can be rated to post slower opening fractions, I would say that there is a good chance he would run away from the field in the stretch. · 141 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · Good points, especially about Secret Circle tiring after the .20 opening quarter. Understandable. I have your same picks, just opposite order: 2,3,4. I just really liked that HP race of Out Of Bounds, and the easy CD win by Hierro. Good luck. · 141 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · I think SC can stretch that speed over a mile, but I think a longer distances, even if he wants to lead, he needs to learn to rate on the lead. The only horses that were not burned in the BCJS were SC himself and Shumoos, only because that one was soooo far off the pace. SC is very very talented. I honestly think he could do a 22 opening quarter and get away with it at 9f. But he needs to prove he can relax in order to get 10f. · 141 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · I would have liked to include Longview Drive, too, but with only 6 horses, not this time, and I don't know how he'll do on a "regular" track. Good last workout though, gets blinkers. Good luck to him. · 141 days ago ·

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ajump08 · This race is going to be all about Secret Circle, from start to finish. The two turn mile over the lightening fast surface will probably be an easier trip than the six furlongs over the very tiring track at Churchill Breeders' Cup day. I actually think Out of Bounds will be better with even more distance, dam won Breeders' Cup Distaff and Discreet Cat pulled of the UAE Derby going 9.5 furlongs. Hierro is a real talent, and is probably more ready to run than Out of Bounds who the connections will be taking their time with. · 141 days ago ·

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DeadHeat · ajump, he is talented, and I would agree, he'll probably get a slower trip, and the surface does help. However, it sounds like if he does well here he'll ship out, probably to Oaklawn like Baffert did with Lucky and Convayence and The Factor. If that happens I would like to see him take it down a little. · 141 days ago ·

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kedez2012 · I see this race falling apart for Secret Circle very easily, especially if he gets locked in a speed dual with Handsome Mike. He's talented enough to pull it off, but this race may go to Hierro in the end. · 140 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Going to take an extraordinary race by any horse to beat this colt. He still had gas in the tank at CD and could have gone around again without trouble. I love horses out of Dixieland Band Mares even as a great grand sire let alone sired. Going the half in 44 2/5 and still being able to handle schmoos says a lot. Looking for the tri and super here. I still have to look at the form just going from memory so far. #3-#2 look like 2nd, 3rd choice but I'm going to hit the ALL buttom here somewhere in the rear as randomness appears more frequently there. · 140 days ago ·

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brooklyn.steve · Secret Circle should win the with ease. He can def go a mile. 1m1 1/4 is another story, but for now he should roll against these. · 140 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Hierro- according to Twin Spires has been scratched · 140 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Hierro- 7 minutes later he is NOT scratched- this reallyis a tuff race · 140 days ago ·

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amir16 · senor rain for the trifecta.. he was closing fast in the simulation.. · 140 days ago ·

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zoee42479 · Scratch Senor Rain. · 140 days ago ·

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GreatSOB · The smaller field I think helps Hiero as he doesn't have to burn out of the gate to be put into a good path to track down SC on the final stretch. However, I just can't see SC being caught with his recent workouts. I say SC takes it by 2 1/2 lengths over Hiero. · 140 days ago ·

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GreatSOB · The smaller field I think helps Hiero as he doesn't have to burn out of the gate to be put into a good path to track down SC on the final stretch. However, I just can't see SC being caught with his recent workouts. I say SC takes it by 2 1/2 lengths over Hiero. · 140 days ago ·

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ajump08 · I was wrong to doubt Out of Bounds's readiness. He ran one hell of a race. · 140 days ago ·

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GreatSOB · Yea, it looks like Secret Circle didn't use his speed earlier enough. I thought he'd jump out and be the pace setter and then just hope not to run out of gas down the back. By settling into 2nd, it opened up for Out of Bound to use the "Shumoos strategy" and catch him down the stretch. · 140 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · I took your top pick Mary Z with mine...ty..paid for xmas...ran like his daddy · 140 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · I got the tip on him from a 15yo girl, icy. I liked his HP win, and today's too, of course. · 140 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · 6 for 6 on horses you liked and I took a second look at although I had the #2 top heavy in ex on a 2/1 ratio · 140 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · Glad I could help you pay off some bills, icy. Nipped at the wire in the Marshua's River. I need much more practice at those f&m turf races. Beware. · 140 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Mary- so sorry but I didn't know you bet outside CA this early, I did have the #5 in my ex-tri mix with #6/#2/#3-never thought to put it up because the race was so wide open.Heavenly Landing I threw in because she is 2 for 2 on turf and the race where it says "shifted out" she was just looking for better footing and closed on a very slow pace.Have nice day -GL · 140 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · No money on the GP race, icy, just practicing. I had the place and fourth, not bad out of that huge field. Good handicapping on your part. · 139 days ago ·

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icyhotboo · Horse racing is the most luck dependant gambling I have ever participated in, either as an owner or bettor. As far as betting it runs in streaks as you know. That was a nice pick on the #2 Out of Bounds as I wouldn't have reversed it as I thought the #4 was by far the best.After seeing your remarks I looked a lot closer and loved the bloodlines.I also handicap a lot of races that are interesting with but no intention of betting, it's fun. GL to you. · 139 days ago ·

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Mary Z. · GL to you too. · 139 days ago ·

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Discreet Cat

He had two winners today -- east coast and west coast!

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Debuting at Saratoga - Loving the 2-Year-Olds

There's no place where I feel better about the chances of seeing a future champion debut than a juvenile maiden race at Saratoga...Read More

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DeadHeat · I love watching the 2yr olds run here. Hoping that Overdriven proves he is something special. 56 is nothing to sneeze at. · 309 days ago ·

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ChristineDix · I Loved Winning Colors!!!!! · 309 days ago ·

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mhswinds · I didn't realize that English Channel was a girl ;). · 309 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Spreadsheet malfunction ... nice catch! · 309 days ago ·

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AndyScoggin · And so many other great 2YOs that started out brilliantly and excitingly at SAR. · 309 days ago ·

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CauseForConcern · I thought Big Brown broke his maiden @ Saratoga on the turf? I believe that was in his 2 yr old campaign. · 309 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · Yes, I missed his turf race. Thanks, CauseForConcern. Big Brown is now on the list. · 309 days ago ·

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zxswordxz · Is it even safe to ask these loving animal to run in these temperature? It feel like hell out side.... · 309 days ago ·

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BrianZipse · I hope everyone has a safe day. · 309 days ago ·

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Waya · Devil's Bag, there's a name from the past. He was the best 2-year-old I ever saw, bar none. · 308 days ago ·

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Forestry a Hot Commodity Again

Despite having run favored Dialed In to a head in the Florida Derby (gr. I), Shackleford was dismissed at odds of 23.1-1 for the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I). Clearly the bettors had concluded it was unlikely a front-running son of Forestry could still be ahead at the end of a mil...Read More

Source: bloodhorse.com · Posted 366 days ago ·

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Santa Anita: First win for stallion

Son de America gave the 8-year-old stallion Discreet Cat his first winner with his first starter in Thursday's first race at Santa Anita. Son de America ($10.40) won a two-furlong maiden race for $100,000 claimers by a head over Linda T Rules, a 24-1 shot. Read More

Source: drf.com · Posted 407 days ago ·

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The Next Superstar Sire?

The 2011 freshman sires promise to be an exciting group. Here are the ten that excite me the most, as I await seeing their sons and daughters hit the track next year… 1) Corinthian (Pulpit - Multiply by Easy Goer) $25,000 Pulpit has quickly become one of my favorite sire of sires with young sons at ...Read More

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racecaller · Hard Spun is so well bred, a miler and had staying power plus speed. I think he shines at stud. But, what do I know? · 521 days ago ·

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zatt · You can say that again, Travis! ;-) · 521 days ago ·

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AnothergThoroughbred · I don't think you or anyone should leave of a Florida stallion. Had Teuflfesburg entered stud there instead of Ky it would be a no brainer, IMHO but since he did stand in Ky first I'm not sure he would be in the top 10. Instead, there's an AP Indy son St Anddan who I think could make a lot of noise., · 521 days ago ·

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zatt · I'm sure there will be a few Florida hits again next year, but ... none could crack this impressive list yet. · 521 days ago ·

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bellesforever · i am all in on Hard Spun..AWESOME horse . · 521 days ago ·

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butchcassidy8504 · I like Jazil's chances at being the surprise big hit of this years freshman crop, but wasn't he before Rags to Riches in winning The Belmont Stakes in 2006, and not after like it is said in the above column? · 521 days ago ·

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TiznowReynolds · I think you could very well be on to something with Corinthian. I saw him back in July and though I'm by far no expert on conformation, he is very impressive to say the least. · 521 days ago ·

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smokey1570 · I think that Invasor will surprise alot of people and will finally earn respect in the breeding community. · 521 days ago ·

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ErnieMunick · Cool list. VERY interested to see how Invasor fares. Will the nonrivalry of Discreet Cat vs Invasor happen at stud? Some dynamite one-turn speed in in DC's DNA - maybe the right mares... Bernardini will be tougher to catch this time. · 521 days ago ·

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zatt · Out of all of them, IN-VA-SOR might be the stallion I am rooting for the most to become a huge success at stud. · 521 days ago ·

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medlocke · I'll tell you a horse this list is sorely missing. "BERNARDINI." I don't know about American owners and trainers? But the European owners and trainers are snatching up Bernardini off-spring at sales as fast as they can get their hand's on them. He's sired 3 outstanding juveniles in 2010 in Great Britain. Godolphin's Biondetti. Who became Bernardini's first G1 winner by winning the Premio Gran Criterium in San Siro, Italy. He's still unbeaten on turf, and ran a very respectable 4th in this year's Breeders Cup Juvenile. His first ever start on conventional dirt. Also, the filly that raced in in the Breeders Cup Juvenile Fillies, Theysken's Theory is also by Bernardini. There's also a juvenile colt, Treasury Devil, owned by Andrew Lloyd and Lady Weber. Owners of the great race-mare, Dar Re Mi. They paid $1 million dollars for Treasury Devil because Bernardini was his sire. Treasury Devil has 3 win's in 4 lifetime starts. · 521 days ago ·

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Bullhead37 · I am interested in Elite Sqadron..a most impressive appearance and a versatile sire. Appears he had some nice mares and I like the chances of his product raising some eyebrows! · 521 days ago ·

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zatt · Medlocke, while I agree completely on the potential for sire stardom of Bernardini, this list only include sires who will have their first runners hit the racetracks in 2011. · 521 days ago ·

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humphrey · It is impossible to even guess. NO ONE would have pegged Mr, Prospector or for that matter Northern Dancer or Storm Cat for the prominance they attained. · 521 days ago ·

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humphrey · Theoretical sire greatness Citation? produced hardly a thing · 521 days ago ·

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humphrey · Who would have pegged Fappiano as a very good sire before he was? · 521 days ago ·

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Darley America Stallions Remain With truenicks

Street Cry (IRE) is already the sire of a Kentucky Derby (gr. I) and a Melbourne Cup (gr. I) winner, not to mention one of the all time greats in Zenyatta.Read More

Source: cs.bloodhorse.com · Posted 895 days ago ·

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Discreet Cat - Pedigree

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Forestry	Storm Cat	Storm Bird
		Terlingua
	Shared Interest	Pleasant Colony
		Surgery
Pretty Discreet	Private Account	Damascus
		Numbered Account
	Pretty Persuasive	Believe It
		Bury The Hatchet