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My hope for Camelot to come stateside for the BC Turf has been dashed as he's been officially retired to stud by Coolmore.
  • jonquil · I was surprised it didn't happen sooner seeing how long he was going without a run. They seemed to handle him very much with care and wanted him to get to stud safely and the longer he stays in training/races, the more chances of a injury happening. Luckily it was only something minor, but it probably shook them enough to make that decision. · 267 days ago
Pulled up with a minor injury after this mornings workout. He is now Retired.
  • kaitlinefree1 · ahhh you beat me to it! haha. sad to see, but Camelot hasn't been the same for awhile. · 269 days ago
  • yukichan · As AOB said in the press release, Camelot has not had the same brilliance as before his colic surgery. Coolmore could have retired him then, so kudos for trying him again at 4. I wish him well in his next career--he'll be very popular no doubt. · 269 days ago
From today's AtTheRaces.com web-site: Camelot could use the G1 Champion Stakes at Ascot on Oct. 19th as a springboard toward running at this year's Breeders Cup meeting. Trainer Aidan O'Brien said Camelot may run at Ascot or in a listed race on the all-weather at Dundalk , but we definitely have one eye on the Breeders Cup for him because he's a horse that needs good ground and conditions in America would normally suit him. Really hope that Coolmore send Camelot stateside for the BC Turf. He's been withdrawn out of a handful of races this season because the ground wasn't right for him. He may not be the same Camelot that we saw as a 3yo, but you know the potential is definitely there for Camelot to jump up and run a really big race at any time. Looking forward to seeing him at Santa Anita in November!!
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  • ILuvTurfRacing · @EP Taylor, My gut feeling is that if Camelot comes to Santa Anita he'll be coming to represent Coolmore in the BC Turf with the tragic loss to St Nicholas Abbey, who I'm quite certain would've likely made his 3rd BC Turf appearance this year if not for his unfortunate career ending injury. I think Declaration of War will be their BC Classic representative and we'll probably see one of stables horses that's been racing pretty regularly at a mile this season go in the BC Mile, I.E., Gale Force Ten, Magician, maybe we'll get lucky and even see Darwin back on American soil? But TJMO. · 273 days ago
  • ILuvTurfRacing · @Lazmannick, True enough it's a short turn around no matter if O'Brien runs Camelot in the Champion Stakes or the Dundalk listed race as a prep for the BC Turf, but lest we forget, Camelot should be a pretty fresh horse right now not having raced since June in the Prince of Wales's Stakes. That in mind, I couldn't see one race 2 weeks out from the Breeders Cup taking a huge toll on Camelot. Especially if they go the easy route via Dundalk. · 273 days ago
Here's a thought that crossed my mind the other day. Aidan O'Brien already said a couple of weeks ago that Camelot would only run in this year's Arc if the ground at Longchamp is good or better. I saw on-line where it said historically there's a better than 60% chance of rain in Paris during that time in October, so if Camelot doesn't get good ground and with St Nicholas Abbey now retired, I wonder of O'Brien might consider bringing Camelot stateside for this year's Breeders Cup Turf? He'd almost certainly have fast ground at Santa Anita, and he's shown the ability to run well going left handed, winning the G1 Epsom Derby last year doing so. Just a thought?
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  • Northport · Not a bad idea, he was clearly a first stringer last year, but Coolmore's middle distance horses are extremely spotty this year... any idea the last time a derby winner came for the Turf? High Chapperal? · 284 days ago
  • ILuvTurfRacing · @Northport, I believe you're correct about High Chaparral being the last Epsom Derby winner to come over for the BC Turf. Treasure Beach was the last Irish Derby winner to run in the BC Turf last year. · 282 days ago
Camelot is entered in the G2 Prix Foy over 12f at Longchamp on Sunday September 15th with Ryan Moore to take the mount for Aidan O'Brien. I'd say it's quite possible Camelot's performance on Sunday will play a big roll in Magnier, Tabor, & Smith deciding not only whether he'll go forward to the Arc in October but whether he'll even continue to race at all? He'll be facing the likes of Orfevre, back from Japan and the winner of the Prix Foy 12 months ago. Also Melbourne Cup & Hong Kong Vase winner Dunaden, and Sheema Classic 3rd Very Nice Name.
After failing to bounce back to his pre-St. Leger form of 2012, retirement is under consideration for Camelot. While I love the horse, I wouldn't blame their decision. Being the first horse in years to attempt the Triple Crown, then undergoing colic surgery, he isn't the same. - http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/sandown-a-p-obrien-obrien-considers-next-move-with-camelot/1307677/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews
  • ILuvTurfRacing · @northport, just got finished reading the article myself on AtTheRaces.com. Aidan O'Brien said Camelot has looked a shadow of his former self since returning from his colic surgery at the end of last season. The article I read said they're still considering a tilt in the G1 Coral-Eclipse Stakes with him, but he has too much potential value to Coolmore as a stallion to take any unneccessary risk with him. Once connections start saying they're considering retirement it's usually not very long before they end up retired. I suspect we saw Camelot run his last race at Ascot in the G1 Prince of Wales's Stakes. · 376 days ago
I won't give up hope in this horse, not after all that he's done. I firmly believe that his next race will be a very good one!
A shocker? Camelot loses to Al Kazeem (Dubawi) in the G1 Tattersalls Gold Cup by 1 1/2 lengths. It was another 9 1/2 back to Windsor Palace in third.
  • Sullivan · Shouldn't be after this, took off and not ridden as hard as Camelot · 410 days ago
  • TampaBayDowns Fan · I liked Camelot's run in this. I don't think this should be counted as a career marker, maybe just a good run but beaten by a better horse. I'd like to see him come back after this with a win, which I don't doubt that he will. · 410 days ago
It looks probable that Camelot will make his 2013 seasonal debut in the G3 Mooresbridge Stakes at 10f at the Curragh in Ireland on Monday, May 6th. My guess is Aidan O'Brien wants to get a run into Camelot to go forward to the G1 Tattersalls Gold Cup at the end of May, and then if all goes well from there I'm guessing the G1 Prince of Wales's Stakes during the royal meeting at Ascot in mid-June would be next.
  • Northport · From RacingUK - O'Brien on Camelot: "He's been in Coolmore all winter so he came back in great shape. Plan is Monday, Tattersalls and Prince Of Wales." · 434 days ago
Camelot could start in the lockinge stakes. He is being pointed to 1m and 1m2f races for this upcoming year. http://www1.skysports.com/news/12040/8615271/
I'm anxious to see what kind of agenda Coolmore have laid out for Camelot for his 4yo season in 2013? Will Aidan O'Brien point him exclusively at the top 12f G1 races like the Coronation Cup, King George, Arc De Triomphe, and possibly even the BC Turf? Or will some top G1 races at 10f also be on his agenda like the Tattersalls Gold Cup and Irish Champion Stakes in Ireland? Or the Prince of Wales's Stakes, Coral-Eclipse, Juddmonte International Stakes, or Champion Stakes in the UK? Can't wait for the flat season to begin in Europe to find out. Even with the disappointment in the English St. Leger and the sub-par run in the Arc that actually ended up a throw out race for most of the field because of the bottomless ground that day, you still have to say Camelot was a special 3yo. You don't win the English 2000 Guineas, Epsom Derby, & Irish Derby unless you've got a touch of class about you.
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  • Buckpasser · Yes I am aware of that OTG. I saw him race in both the St. Leger and his last race. At the time the newspapers were speaking about the race itself taking a great deal out of the horse well before they spoke about the ring worm. I followed him and the Brigadier in England when I was there. · 470 days ago
  • Buckpasser · Piggott told the newspapers after the Arc that he was concerned about Nijinsky in the paddock. While he was always a nervous horse, he was drenched with sweat and during the race the horse accelerated from back of the pack but swerved to the left and lost. Some reporters said tht the horse swerved to the left in response to Piggott's whip, but Lester denied that. Both O'Btien and Lester said that he had lost his fire in the Champions. Sassafras was a good horse that beat him in the Arc, but I remember the stunned silence from the crowd when Nijinsky lost. · 470 days ago
Ireland's 2012 Horse of the Year...and he will be back in 2013.
Does anyone know how well he is recovering?
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  • rafirox · Thank you, yukichan, and Mary Z. Much appreciated. · 619 days ago
  • yukichan · The update I read was from yesterday, 10/28 and reads much as in Mary's reference: http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/8200841/camelot-recovering-well · 619 days ago
Camelot was admitted to Fethard Veterinary Hospital this evening and underwent exploratory colic surgery, according to a post on the Coolmore facebook fan page
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  • northport · from coolmore twitter: "Camelot’s colic surgery went well and he is doing great. The veterinary team are delighted with his progress to date" · 636 days ago
  • northport · another twitter post: "Camelot has arrived at Coolmore from Fethard Veterinary Hospital and is in good shape. He is expected to return to training for 2013" · 635 days ago
He shouldn't be rated this high. I think he really isn't the super horse everyone thinks he is. I think he was the best horse, from a very weak crop. He wasn't a factor in the Arc, I know it was against oledr horses but still.
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  • icyhotboo · rafirox, if you had stuck to the orginal statement you made would have a legitimate point about my comment. However you didn't and my response was to all of your comments to the point at which I made mine. You did make a comparison of the two which makes my comment legitimate. · 641 days ago
  • icyhotboo · As for where a horse is ranked every poll is subjective and subject to error. On this site you have people rating great horses 3s and you expect a degree of accurracy · 641 days ago
After telling the Racing Post on Tuesday that Coolmore would likely try to get William Buick to ride Camelot in the Arc De Triomphe on Sunday, Aidan O'Brien and the Coolmore mafia on Wednesday reversed field and announced that they have indeed gotten Frankie Dettori to pilot Camelot at Longchamp on Sunday. Joseph O'Brien will ride Coolmore's other entry, BC Turf winner St Nicholas Abbey for the stable.
Frankie Dettori will pick up the ride on Camelot in the arc, according to racing post. Love this pairing, but wonder what it means for his connections with Godolphin
  • footlick · I like the pairing too. Earlier this year, there was a report that Frankie will not be their number 1. They seem to be going for younger, French jocks. I think Frankie is a plus for Camelot. If he is good enough, he has a big chance, especially now. I never discount Frankie in big money races. · 645 days ago
The Racing Post reports that Aidan O'Brien gave his strongest hint on Tuesday that Camelot will indeed run in Sunday's G1 Prix De l'Arc De Triomphe. O'Brien said that Camelot and St Nicholas Abbey will likely be Ballydoyle's 2 top representatives in the race. Joseph O'Brien however will ride St Nicholas Abbey. O'Brien said with Nathaniel now being out of the race because of his blood work not coming back right that William Buick will be retained to ride Camelot in the Arc.
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  • Buckpasser · I like Camelot and hope he does well in the Arc. But the St. Leger takes a lot out of a horse . After Nijinsky won the TC , he was never the same after it. I remember reading in the British papers at the time that Nijinsky lost over 40 lbs during the running of St. Leger. Even Piggott said the horse was only a shell of his greatness. · 646 days ago
  • karen.sweatman.9 · I think they are pushing Camelot pretty hard. He may very well get beat, so really it won't be an "easy win" for him. Easier without the top dogs, but not a piece of cake if he's worn out. · 645 days ago
And so size and weight has caught up with young master Joseph...http://www1.skysports.com/horse-racing/news/12426/8125277
  • northport · it is unfortunate to break up the team for such a major race, but joseph's rides have had a major impact in costing Camelot and St. Nick extremely important races · 648 days ago

Camelot - Race Results & Past Performances

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View DetailsView Video06/19/13Camelot4thAsc31 1/4 mTPrince of Wales's Stakes-G1 4+ MAl KazeemMukhadramThe Fugue2:03.06
View DetailsView Video05/26/13Camelot2ndCur41 5/16 mTTattersalls Gold Cup-G1 4+ MAl KazeemCamelotWindsor Palace2:14.48
View DetailsView Video05/06/13Camelot1stCur31 1/4 mTMooresbridge Stakes-G3 4+ MCamelotTriumphantParish Hall2:16.27
View DetailsView Video10/07/12Camelot7thLon61 1/2mTPrix de l'Arc de Triomphe-G1 3+ MSolemiaOrfevreMasterstroke2:37.68
View Details09/15/12Camelot2ndDon41 13/16 mTEnglish St. Leger-G1 3 MEnckeCamelotMichelangelo3:03.81
View DetailsView Video06/30/12Camelot1stCur81 1/2mTIrish Derby-G1 3 MCamelotBorn To SeaLight Heavy2:43.96
View Details06/02/12Camelot1stEps51 1/2mTEpsom Derby-G1 3 MCamelotMain SequenceAstrology2:33.90
View Details05/05/12Camelot1stNew31 mileTEnglish 2000 Guineas -G1 3 MCamelotFrench FifteenHermival1:42.46
View Details10/22/11Camelot1stDon41 mileTRacing Post Trophy-G1 2 MCamelotZip TopFencing1:38.58
View Details07/14/11Camelot1stLeo21 mileTMaiden  2 MCamelotAll ApprovedFort Sam Houston1:42.31