
if the bc juvenile was a mile and a quarter hansen would have gotten crushed

@AnneShaw, if that was posed as a question, then O'Prado again, the Remsen winner.

2 yr. old at 1 /16, they all were 2 last year. Which of these has run further to win than Hansen?

and hansen won by a nose in the bc juvenile he could never hold off any horse going a mile and a quarter he only won because it was a mile and 1/16

discreet dancer is gonna win the fountain of youth for fun

I know it is early and Creative Cause and Hansen didn't run bad races, But the results so far suggests that maybe the Breeders Cup Juvenile was not such a strong race. This years Derby winner, like the last few winners, might be a horse no one is talking about in February.

Look! It's the clueless Pom De Terre! Let the fun begin! I'm QUITE sure the author knows what the Derby distance is.

I think you are under rating Hansen, he and Union Rags could only be even now. Both 3 wins 1 loss, Sure Union Rags ran green in the BC stretch, same story after Hansen stumbled coming out of the gate.

He who posts the most is NOT the winner or the expert

ummm... Down and Derby- hate to tell you, but the Derby is 10 furlongs... you appear to be a victim of your own mouth and your outspokeness demonstrates your ignorance. I'd shut up if I were you.

Creative Cause will be moving on up and zatt earned another "like". You try to figure out which baby has the best shot at winning at 9f. before they do, tv.

Can't let reality impose upon starry eyed hero workship now can we?

Get off your grump box, and have some fun, vic ... or not.

Seriously HOW in the world is a rational evaluation of these animals relevant when NONE of them have yet tried nine furlongs at graded stakes levels? Unitl that hurdle is attempted in the major moves: Fla Derby, SA Derby, Wood, the once great Blue Grass, the LA Derby or the Ark Derby, it is worse than guesswork

I will take my chances ;-)

If maritimer wants to go to the derby,he will have to be 1 or 2 in uae due to graded earnings!

You'll be embarrassed when Maritimer finishes on the board in the KD and wasn't even on your top 16 list :)

I still have faith in Hansen. Though Union Rags, Algorithms, Out of Bounds and Discreet Dancer look very dangerous at this point. Cant wait to see what happens in the next few months.

If Gemologist remains healthy, he should be a contender. His sire, Tiznow, was as good as they come.

Hope to see Chantal Sutherland on one of Bafferts Derby Horses... She can do it....