
Keep in mind there is a dark sheep in the family. Who remembers the NY claimer Hedge Fund that used place over the inner track but rarely if ever win?

Great broodmare, no doubt, but beyond amazing FAMILY.... Everyone of course realizes that Supercharger and She's a Winner (the dam of Bluegrass Cat!, etc) are FULL SISTERS.... which makes CAL NATION (By Distorted Humor) a FULL BROTHER in blood to BRETHERN!!!! They say that Cal Nation isn't going on the Derby Trail since he just broke his maiden at Gulfstream (IMPRESSIVELY) and would be playing too much "catch up football", but I wouldn't be surprised to see him in either the Preakness or Belmont....SUPER family!

yes shoot for six next time so he can clunk and people will believe.

Super Saver Lost his one time at Tampa so what does that say about Brethen! I think Its safe to say "MONSTER"

"he only won by four" they should run him into the ground to show he can do better. all good jocks save as much of their horse as possible!

I'd say a resounding "yes" I think he is better than Super Saver, that was a wonderful performance he gave!

The obvious challenge with the Beyer is it was the only dirt route on the card. That said, he stalked/tracked a slow pace on a surface favoring front end running types. He wins by four, but the horse who was second would be that many plus about 20 more behind the tops in the division. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong... I don't see it, unless he starts to improve rapidly.

The logical conclusion to draw from the Sam Davis is that Brethren looked good beating nothing and did not run very fast. We shall see.

it is to early to tell, didn't super saver get hurt after the derby?i thought that was another reason he was going down hill.

Beyer's are so subjective ... All you have to do is look at that race to know it was a good performance, especially by a colt making only his 3rd lifetime start.

The Beyer of 83 is embarrassing ... to the Beyer group.

Who knows, who cares. It's not as if Super Saver went on to do anything good after his Derby win as well as the place horse Ice Box. Makes you wonder if the Derby was just a slop-fest that favored the top two finishers, considering they were 2nd and 3rd choice repectively. As for Bretheren he looked good winning the Sam F Davis yesterday. His facial expression as he's running is very defined and you can tell he has a ton of heart. But at the end of the day he'll have to run faster times against stiffer competition for me to take him seriously just yet.

His Beyer was in the low 80's. He's not even as good as Rule was at this time last year. Sure, he could develop and get better... but he is sure to be overbet (which to me means overrated as well) in the Future pool.

I think he'll be way better than SS. The key thing for him is that he has early tactical speed which will be imporant in the Derby. He bobbled in his first start and got position, and he broke slow yday but showed that speed again to get position then settle. I've got him 3rd on my Derby list. I just think he will be way more talented than SS.

Overrated would mean you know how good this one is ... seems like there is no telling how good he is to this point. Maybe he will turn out to be nothing special in the long run, but he's barely been tested by his competition so far.

No way... I thought he beat a sorry group and is already overrated. Beyer came back low too.