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To those that were debating how fast this Derby was. Based on The Ragozin sheets, Pharoah ran a 4 (lower the number the faster the horse) As a comparison to last years winner California Chrome. Although the actual times were very similar,C.C. ran a 7 on the sheets. At approximately 1.5 lengths per point. Pharoah was about 4.5 lengths faster than Chrome.
What a bust!
Brisnet posted the past performances for their projected Derby Field. Based on their posting, this will be an 8 horse field. The screaming and celebrating that you heard in the background,is the NYRA board of directors. This will be the 2nd year in a row,that the Belmont Stakes will be a very very relevant race. They will have a horse attempting to win the Triple Crown in successive years.
  • travel_vic · BIG BIG assumption that the KD winner will conquer the field next week..Until a head to head evaluation is extant, NO one knows for sure. · 18 minutes ago
  • tmallios via Disqus · Like stealing candy from a baby,maybe this time around it will be easier · 15 minutes ago
As an event, so don't rate the horses, which is a better day at the races for a family, the Preakness or Belmont?
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  • Montezuma1 via Disqus · I like Belmont more for the family. The surrounding neighborhood for Pimlico is really run down. Pimlico is also the second oldest track in the country and you can tell as soon as you enter. · 4 hours ago
  • tmallios via Disqus · I have been to both on many of occassions for the 2 big days. The key word in your question is "FAMILY". That is a no brainer then.......Belmont by a country mile. With its' spacious behind the grandstand picnic/lounge area, you have a nicer place to spend the day. Pimlico has the infield area. But i seriously doubt that you would want to bring your family in there. The balance is strictly an old and crowded grandstand area. As far as the crowds,it only gets to excessive if there is a TC on the line. If there is not the possibility of a TC winner,the Belmont is very comfortable. Maybe 60 to 75 thousand people will show up. · 23 minutes ago
OK t_v, I accept your Coward's Challenge. So how does it work, we each pick 4 and announce our plays after the race???
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Lot's of folks seem to be hung up on Pharoah's ground loss. What's funny about the one-sided 'wide trip' argument is that no one is considering Firing Line's ground loss. Yes, if you move Pharoah in 2 paths to FL's path, you come up with an easy 3 1/2 - 4 length score for Pharoah. But what happens when you ALSO move Firing Line in 2 paths. When the "what-if's" are applied equally, nothing changes. Pharoah may have been the best horse on Saturday, but not by much. He better be ready for another fight in 2 weeks, especially if FL decides to run on his right lead. Stevens figured out how to beat Dortmund, and won't make the same mistake again in the Preakness.
  • Steve Holmes via Disqus · if he's healthy he is heads and shoulders above these two for sure. · 2 hours ago
Does anyone know what is going on with WABEL? There’s been no info on him since his last outing in February.
In an acknowledgement there are accommodation limits at Belmont Park, the New York Racing Association has decided to cap attendance at 90,000 for this year's Belmont Stakes (gr. I) day of racing. In a May 6 release NYRA said the attendance cap is similar to policies and practices of professional sports teams."(The attendance cap) will not only result in an enhanced experience for Belmont guests, but will further improve access to and from the Belmont property on Saturday," NYRA said. "It will also complement Saturday's post-race concert, which is anticipated to further stagger the exit from the Belmont property following the final race."Belmont Park has experienced problems in recent years with large crowds on days a horse is going for the Triple Crown. Last year, after California Chrome came up short in his Triple Crown bid before 102,199 fans, an estimated 36,000 guests using the Long Island Rail Road were stuck at the track awaiting service for hours after the race. In 2008, water was shut off or pressure was lowered throughout the facility when 94,476 turned out to watch Big Brown 's attempt to win the Triple Crown. Article on Bloodhorse
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  • Mary Z. · For the main page: REALLY? · 4 hours ago
  • Mary Z. · Really tv? Your "story" reminded me of the time that a hotel guest pretended to work for the hotel and said he was taking the temperature of the hot tub while I was in it. I felt certain that he had snapped a few photos of my wet bathing suit top. That was probably what he was doing, as he could not have photographed any bottoms. You should be more cautious in restrooms. Could be Ahabs lurking. · 3 hours ago
I feel like this race is getting earlier and earlier on the calendar. I remember a time when Kentucky Derby horses would run in this race
you have got some horse that in that bocca baciata will it be coming to england racing this year ? can't wait to see it run glad to see the niarchos family back with with a superstar long time followwing your horses Neil
I wish Pimlico had an outdoor paddock. I am a guy that likes to hang out around the paddock area and I was disappointed the few years I went to the Preakness with Pimlico's indoor paddock.
Chief steward Barbara Borden said Wednesday that the Churchill Downs stewards intend to further scrutinize replays of the Kentucky Derby in response to questions about jockey Victor Espinoza having used his whip 32 times in urging American Pharoah to victory. Whereas some other states have rules that limit the number of times the whip can be used, “there is not a maximum number” in Kentucky, said Borden. “Obviously, overt abuse would be something that would constitute us considering action, but clearly this is a discretionary issue.” Article on DRF
  • slewcrew7778 · Was hard to believe this had gone unnoticed. Stevens held to the 1-2-3 wait/switch rule despite there being none at Churchill. · 6 hours ago
AP was the best horse on Derby day. That's not even debatable. The others will have another chance to show what they can do. I'm looking forward to it.
getting tired of his final time already,he beat the field and his time was faster then all the other horses...enough already!!
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  • DDAmasa via Disqus · That's true. I think some of the debate started because some were calling him the next Seattle Slew and The Boston Globe even went on record that some established insider called him the second coming of Secretariat. That sort of hyperbole tends to set people off. But AP ran a perfectly good race and will likely win the Preakness. We are also likely in for five more weeks of manufactured hype (Chrome got plenty of hype last year as well, although no one was calling him the next Secretariat, thankfully). · 23 hours ago
  • Montezuma1 via Disqus · Thank you. · 6 hours ago
Trainer Ron Moquett tells DRF's Marty McGee that Kentucky Derby 15th-place finisher Far Right exited the Derby in good shape and that he and owners Harry Rosenblum and Bob LaPenta would soon discuss the next course of action. Far Right returned to training Wednesday at Churchill. “They’ve got Derbies in Iowa, Ohio, and Indiana, right?” asked Moquett. “I’m guessing those kinds of races might be better for us. We’d love to get his confidence back and his earnings up.” Article on DRF
Speed horses never get any respect. When they win, they "stole" the race. When they lose "see he didn't get it his way today". Bayern will be fine, he will win his share. I would rather own a string of speed types than the "got to get a trip" horses.
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  • travel_vic · Alone on the lead, BY FAR, are the best bets in this game.....Bar none · 7 hours ago
  • travel_vic · some really early biased tracks like Fort Erie and inner Aqu you can bet the only speed with confidence tripling it to place and often the place payoffs are higher that the win mutuel · 6 hours ago
well since tapioca man wants in, you can all guess amongst you while I watch it from the 16th pole third floor seat at the NYRAs flagship track
Bob n John, Hard Spun...many others disqualified themselves at 12 furlongs JUST by watching the steadily increasing early nature of them both..Short priced colts easy to eliminate..POSITION in a horse race means zip as compared to how the individual animal distributes its energy relative to the pace of race........True this race allows some real plodders to get to the wire but 70% of them are predictable..
Tale of Verve, who was the 22nd horse on the also eligible list for the Kentucky Derby but didn't make the field, will be under consideration for the Belmont stakes. Trainer Dallas Stewart tells DRF's Marty McGee that he was dismayed that Tale of Verve did not get a chance to compete as an also-eligible in the Kentucky Derby despite four horses having scratched from the race, leaving a field of 18 starters and two open gates. Stewart was well aware of rumors surrounding the well-being of El Kabeir and International Star, both of whom were declared out of the race after the 9 a.m. Eastern deadline the morning before the Derby. Tale of Verve would have carried saddle cloth No. 22 if he had been allowed to start. Article on DRF

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