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Can somebody give me a scenario where Songbird wins HOY, without racing in the Classic (which she won't)? It's a given she has to stay undefeated and win the Distaff. What else would have to happen?
postponed never won a g1 til 4 , he was 3 from 11 at one stage of his career, he is now regarded as europes number 1 , some horses mature and move forward with age i,l put frosted in that bracket
should be a nice race for her initial attempt against open company. expecting another great effort.
Frosted is a classic "in and outer" Many a good horse has come down the pike over the years that did exactly the same thing: a brilliant move here and there but over quite average for a stakes horse.
Exaggerator can put his stamp on the Eclipse three year old colt award with a win tomorrow. He needs a torrid pace early for his patented late run. With a triumph, Big Chief Racing will take home a gold plated replica of the Travers Trophy. Man o' War drank from this $5000 solid gold cup designed and crafted by Tiffany & Co. in 1920. Sam Riddle won it with Man o' War's victory over Sir Barton in the Kenilworth Park Gold Cup match race in Windsor, Ontario. The scene of Man o' War's only defeat could be the site of Exaggerator's greatest.
It would be awesome to see Beholder win this race 4 years in a row.
Frosted by at least 6 lengths.
Lady Eli might have a difficult time in the Breeder's Cup Filly & Mare Turf. I think Onus, Dacita, Catch A Glimpse, and Sea Calisi will give her a very difficult time.
1st: Tepin 2nd: Mondialiste 3rd: Solow
1st: Exaggerator 2nd: American Freedom 3rd: Governor Malibu 4th: Connect
1st: Marking 2nd: Stallwalkin' Dude 3rd: Tamarkuz
1st: Drefong 2nd: Mohaymen 3rd: Fish Trappe Road
1st : Lady Eli 2nd: Onus 3rd: Sentiero Italia
"StopStop" and all his other troll accounts is actually Richard Jaimungal. He's just too cowardly to use his usual account to spew hatred and risk banning. It's obvious from the phrasing, hatred, and overused "..." that Jaimungal is creating these troll hate accounts. The mods should check the IP addresses of these troll accounts, confirm its Jaimungal, and then ban his a$$.
If you compare her times with those of other greats, running and not running anymore she actually stacks up pretty well. Even against Beholder, Zenyatta, American Pharoah just to name a few. She deserves some respect even if she couldn't beat Chrome. Neither did Beholder in their meeting, but that doesn't make Beholder any less amazing.
go frosty a g1 winner ,whos a very good horse and will carry on improving , i like him at a mile myself but best of luck in the woodward
you cant have any kind of DEBATE on these sites..horse racing is all about debate...2 people have a debate..express feelings on horses and ability...and you get the little crybabies who cry for the moderator..typical sensitive 2016..they arent even legit bothered..they just love crying about "rules"
Trainer Phil D'Amato announces that the target for Enola Gray after the Torrey Pines is the G2 Lexus Raven Run at Keeneland in Oct and she will not point for the Breeders Cup this year, but perhaps will target the Breeders Cup next year.
A lot of people have really been ignoring the fact that Frosted now has a G1 stakes record. I am actually trying to develop a stat that accounts for different tracks(mainly subtracting a time from the current stakes/track record) I am still ironing out some kinks(how to account for good/muddy tracks, a horses age and whether to count loss times or not. If anyone want to help they are welcome! Anyway I'm going to present a list of all the current G1 dirt male stakes holders to not only give a glimpse of the club Frosted(and Melatonin albeit with an asterisk) entered but for future reference as well. Also yes I was to lazy to do distances shorter than 7. 12 Belmont Stakes. Secretariat 2.24.00 10 Kentucky Derby. Secretariat 1.59.40 Travers Stakes 2.00.00 General Assembly Breeders Cup Classic. Ghostzapper 1.59.02 Jockey Club Gold Cup.Skip Away. 1.58.89 Hollywood Gold Cup. Quack 1.58.20* Melatonin 1.59.79(best time at Santa Anita the races current location) Pacific Classic. 1.59.11 Candy Ride Santa Anita Handicap. 1.58.17 Game On Dude 9.5 Preakness Stakes 1.53.00 Secretariat 9.0 Arkansas Derby. Althea 146.80 Blue Grass Stakes.Skip Away 1.47.20 Florida Derby. General Duke 1.46.80 Santa Anita Derby. Sham, Indian Charlie, Lucky Debonair 1.47.00 Wood Memorial. Bellamy Road 1.47.16 Haskell. Bet Twice, Majestic Light.1.47.00 Woodward Stakes. Forego 1.45.80 Whitney Handicap. Laywer Ron. 1.46.40 AA. Bertando. 1.46.72 Clark Handicap. Premium Tap. 1.47.39 Stephen Foster Handicap. Victory Gallop. 1.47.28 Donn Handicap. Jumping Hill. 1.46.40(will this become the new Pegasus record?) 8.5 Breeders Cup Juvenille. Midshipman.1.40.94 Breeders Futurity. Polar Expedition. 1.42.20 FrontRunner Stakes. Ruler's Court. 1.41.27 Los Alamitos Futurity. Afternoon Deelites. 1.40.74 8.0 Champagne Stakes. Devil's Bag 1.34.20 Breeders Cup Dirt Mile. Albertus Maximus.133.41 Met Mile. Frosted. 1.32.73 Cigar Mile. Discreet Cat.1.32.46 7.0 Del Mar Futurity. Drill.122.16(over the current polytrack surface) Hopeful Stakes. Came Home.1.21.94 Malibu Stakes. Twirling Candy. 1.19.70 King's Bishop Stakes. Runhappy. 1.20.54(congrats buddy) Carter Handicap. Artax. 1.20.04 Now I feel a weakness of the current G1 system is that it rates many races G2 that attract G1 horses year in and year out. Look at the winter races for example, there are no G1's over that time so the best horses will inherently go to G2's. So I'm going to treat these races as G1's because IMO there's no reason not to. I will explain why any other race is up there. Also don't worry with these new stat I will account for important historical races as well. 12.0 Brooklyn Handicap. Nasty and Bold, Hechizado.2.26.00(former Handicap TC race it deserves to be G1) 10.0 Suburban Handicap.In Excess. 1.58.33(former Handicap TC race it deserves to be G1) 9.0 Jim Dandy Stakes. Louis Quatorze. 1.47.26(gets all the good horses who don't go to the Haskell) Louisiana Derby. Clev er Tell. 1.48.80(thinking of changing my mind, that stakes record is horrible) Pennsylvania Derby. Bayern.1.46.96 (same logic applies to this and the Travers that applies to the Jim Dandy and Haskell) 8.5 San Felipe Stakes. Consolidator. 1.40.11 Holy Bull Stakes.Go for Gin. 1.41.62 FOY. Sensitive Prince. 1.41.00 Rebel Stakes. Betemight. 1.40.80 (I'm not putting the Risen Star, that actually should be a G2 and the Louisiana should be to as even though this year it was G1 quality most years it just isn't) So there it is. I wanted to let people know about the project I was working on to create a better statistic for comparing time, cross track, era and condition. Also thought this was useful information to have out regardless. If you want to help or have suggestions let me know!
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  • StopStop via Disqus · my point is frosted ran 17 times..and out of 17 times he ran ONE good race..and it wasnt even good as far as the talent he faced..it was due to his fast final time of that race..the met mile..he beat a bunch of bums in the woodward..other than that he has been embarrassed in all other of his career races...Frosted is more along the lines of say a grade 3 horse who has gotten a few grade 1 wins cause the race was labeled a grade 1 but the talent in the field were grade 3 horses at best..i mean the horse is 6 for 17 lifetime..that is NO grade 1 talented horse with that sort of poor record..sorry · 9 hours ago
  • StopStop via Disqus · you mentioned Skip Away...now he was a legit GREAT horse...legit grade 1 horse..so its hard to distinguish real grade 1 horses..the eye test always can tell..Skip Away was just a BEAST on the track..he was a "real" talent · 9 hours ago
you know Frosted fans are living in fantasy island when one of their scenerios for Frosted to win HOTY is if other horses getting "DQd" for interference in a race
  • Ferrisjso26 · That was listed under the "chaos" category in my post not the "Frosted wins" category. So you are actually lying. I put down scenarios where I think Frosted wins, the same for CC and then scenarios that will get really messy. That was a joke(and if it actually happened no one would be joking anymore, just look at the 2014 BCC imagine if a DQ had come up then). · 9 hours ago

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