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Introduction to ThoroughMetrics

Storm Cat & Young

Welcome to Thoroughmetrics!  I’ll be taking a look at various topics here, typically focusing on how statistics can be better applied to thoroughbred racing in general and to pedigree analysis in particular.  I’ll start off by revisiting some topics that I discussed when I had an independent blog a few years back.

 

In one post, I said the following about unraced sires:

 

Most horses, regardless of breeding are relatively unsuccessful on the racetrack. Certainly most are not successful enough to warrant much interest as broodmares. So statistically, you have to go on the assumption that most unraced mares would not have been good enough to be worth much for breeding. This is even more true once you consider that they may have remained unraced due to soundness issues that they could potentially pass along to their offspring. No matter how well bred, I would assume an unraced broodmare should be a cheap broodmare.

 

An obviously extension of this line of thinking is that an unraced stallion is NEVER worth trying out. I don't care that he's a son of Storm Cat out of a top mare. The odds that he would have been successful enough to warrant a career at stud are incredibly low...certainly never high enough to justify an expensive breeding experiment.

 

While looking back over the comments on the blog, I noticed that an anonymous reader then commented “There are many unraced sons of Storm Cat that are successful in the breeding shed."

 

I wanted to check the accuracy of that statement and how it impacts the conclusion I made in my original post.  Unfortunately I ran into the same challenge that happens so often when analyzing thoroughbred racing.  The specific information I was looking for somewhat challenging to find.  One site indicated that ‘At least 39 different sons of Storm Cat have sired stakes winners.'  I think it’s safe to say that a stallion can’t be considered successful without siring at least one stake winner, so the question then becomes how many of those 39 were unraced.

 

Of course, another site says “31 sons of Storm Cat have sired Group/Grade 1 winners." That seems a bit hard to reconcile.  Is it possible that he’s only had 8 sons who sired winners of Grade 2 or 3 stakes but NOT Grade 1?  Or have 39 of his sons sired stakes winners in the US while 31 have sired grade/group 1 winners worldwide?  As always with horse racing data, the facts are hard to find.

 

That’s actually a big part of the appeal of starting Thoroughmetrics back up as a part of Horse Racing Nation.  I’m hoping that the readers here are able to help me out as I try to answer some of the statistical questions that are so fascinating about thoroughbred racing.  So if you have any information on offspring of Storm Cat at stud (including those who are deceased), I’d love to hear from you, either in the comments here or an email to me at zelvin30@hotmail.com.

 

 

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