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Eclipse Awards Discussion: The Juvenile Debates

My Miss Aurelia wins 2011 BC Juvenile Fillies.

Hoosier State of Mind begins a weekly Eclipse Awards debate with help from “The Chicago Dark Horse” Chris Sorenson.  Over the next few weeks we will be discussing the Eclipse awards, division by division, debating each contenders credentials, and eventually deciding who should win the Eclipse award in their perspective division.   We start this week with the Juvenile divisions.



Scott Dick: Dark Horse! It’s great to have you “Co-hosting” this eclipse debate. We’ll start with the Juvenile Filly division.  My Miss Aurelia has been perfect so far, she’s already done something even Rachel Alexandra couldn’t do for her part owner Stonestreet Stables and her trainer Steve Asmussen, and that is win a Breeders’ Cup race.  Don’t you believe she is the only viable option when it comes to the Eclipse award for Juvenile Filly?

 


Chris Sorenson: I do agree with you Hoosier-man! My Miss Aurelia really seems to be the choice here. She's a perfect 4-for-4 this season with victories in the Adirondack, Frizette, and the Breeders' Cup! I would imagine that she would be on the Kentucky Oaks trail next year.

 


SD: Is there any case to be made for Grace Hall? She was 3 for 3 going into the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies, she ran a strong race while encountering traffic, she still finished a solid 2nd behind the aforementioned Asmussen Filly. Do you see her garnering any votes?

 


CS: Sure you can make a case for her, but when they went head to head, My Miss Aurelia took the victory and therefore will get my pick.  Hopefully, we will see a good rivalry in 2012 between these two!

 


SD: So Co-host, My Miss Aurelia is your Eclipse Award winner in the Juvenile Filly division?

 


CS: Yes Sir, She is.

 


SD: I agree with Chris, My Miss Aurelia is unbeaten, she has been more dominant in her division then any horse in the Eclipse Award divisions. It could be argued that she should be mentioned in the Horse Of The Year conversation.


SD: On to the Juvenile division, this is where it gets a little bit tricky, Chris. Brian Zipse wrote a blog stating that if you liked Zenyatta for Horse Of The Year last year, you have to like Union Rags this year in the Juvenile Colt division.  Union Rags traveled quite a distance further than Breeders’ Cup Juvenile winner Hansen, Rags was wide around the turn, drifting in and out in the stretch, he still was only beaten a dirty nose, what are your feelings on Union Rags?

 


CS: Union Rags is definitely worthy of the award in my opinion.  If you look at what he has accomplished this year, he took the Saratoga Special and the Champagne.  He just couldn't quite catch Hansen at the end of the Breeders Cup race and just lost by a nose charging home late. 


SD: I’m going to throw a curve ball at you, Dark Horse. What about Secret Circle?  This son of Eddington has been spectacular in 3 sprints. He bobbled at the start in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Sprint, before bursting to the lead and spurting away in the stretch, he was a bit green in the stretch, it seemed he lost a bit of focus, drifting in and drifting out, he eventually straightened up and won by an impressive length. What is your opinion on Secret Circle?

 


CS: Secret Circle was certainly impressive in the Breeders' Cup.  I actually tried to beat the bridge jumper in that race as he was shipping in from California and running on a good track, but he was much the best that day.  I don't think anyone was going to beat Secret Circle that day.  Besides, when Bob Baffert trained horses are bet down, you know there is a reason for that.

 


SD: Hansen has been perfect. He was dazzling in his debut, destroying a field of maidens at Turfway Park by nearly 13 lengths. His second start was even more impressive.  He stretched out to a route distance for the first time and he did it in stakes company. Hansen cruised to a 13 length victory. Hansen garnered little respect in regards to the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile, with the betting public letting him go off at odds of 7-1. For those of us watching the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile on track, it was just a gray blur, Hansen led from gate to wire, he dug in down the stretch to hold off Union Rags, how impressive has Hansen been?

 


CS: Hansen has been extremely impressive, Scott! In just three starts, the white horse has taken the country by storm! With two prior impressive double digit length victories you're right in the fact that he didn't get much respect at the windows on Breeders' Cup day. However as my friend Matt Fisher says, winners win, and he did just that just edging out Union Rags. I'll be paying very close attention to how he does on the Derby trail!

 


SD: So Chris, who gets the Eclipse Award for top Juvenile colt?

 


CS: Well, Scott, since Hansen did beat Union Rags, I'll go with Hansen, barely.

 


SD: Besides Horse of The Year, this might be the toughest award to give out, Union Rags is probably the most talented horse in the conversation, his wins in the grade II Saratoga Special and the grade I Champagne Stakes were spectacular, he had a tough luck trip in the Breeders’ Cup Juvenile. But, with that being said, Hansen is my Eclipse award winner. Hansen has done nothing wrong. He’s won 3 races by a combined 26 lengths, he stretched his speed out and displayed his talent on synthetic and dirt surface. Hansen is my Eclipse Award winner in the Juvenile Division!



In Honor of Tim (Tiznow) Reynolds, you changed all of are lives for the better and you'll be with us always. Donations can be made to the Timothy (Tiznow) Reynolds Memorial Fund. A memorial fund for his daughter, Lauren Reynolds.


 

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@ travel: It can very well happen. Just because you don't see it that often, doesn't mean it wont. The debate for HOY is so wide open, nobody can be sure who will win especially if the Clark is won by a longshot.
two yaer olds don't make it as Horse of the Year (twice in its history) particularly females
It won't happen, buy My Miss Aurelia is my dark horse for HOY. Especially if there's a shocker in this weekend's Clark Handicap.
I totally agree with DeadHeat
Ruhlman the argument is that Union Rags raced in 3 graded stakes winning a g1 & g2 and 2nd in a g1 compared to Hansen's one not Union Rags having a bad trip and finishing 2nd.
I still don't know why there's a debate for 2-year-old champ. Hansen did nothing wrong, he remained perfect and he beat the best horses. Everyone's arguement is that Union Rags should have won & had a bad trip. But clearly he didn't win. He hasn't even won around 2 turns yet..........ridiculous. UR might be the better horse next year, but not in 2011.
People seem to forget that Hansen did not have it easy that day at all. Not many horses went w2w on that track and he did. UR was wide, but in the clear the entire time, was in great striking distance as they came into the stretch and still could not get Hansen. Hansen was taking a big class hike, running on dirt for the first time, and was running against a bias. UR was wide, but it wasn't like he was dead last trying to make up 15 plus lengths. Hansen showed the most improvement from start to start and beat his rival on the square. UR is a very talented horse, but this should not be close. Hansen should get it.
Nicely done Scott Dick and "Co-Host" Chris Sorenson
My Miss Aurelia and Hansen ... I think you two are on two winners.

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My journey into the sport of kings has been different than most. I do not boast a royal pedigree, and in fact, before my interest in horse racing, my family thought the Kentucky Derby was the only race of the year! I'm the son of a minor league baseball player and a homemaker, which doesn't exactly scream grade I winner.


My passion for the sport started about 8 years ago.I was watching as Funny Cide was making his triple crown run. The “Gutsy Gelding” had my eyes glued to the television with each of his triple crown races. After watching Funny Cide on TV. I decided to make a trip down to our local track, Indiana Downs.This would be an experience that would change my life.

I looked over the program, while having no idea what I was doing,I decided to put my 5 dollars on a horse named Apollonea. As the gates broke and the announcer began his race call, I heard the words Apollonea to the lead. My excitement grew as I watched my horse lead all the way around the track, eventually drawing to win by an easy five lengths. Apollonea paid 58.00 to win, I was hooked from that point on.

For the past 8 years my life has been horse racing.  I've tried to educate myself on every aspect of the sport and learn about it's past. The incredible run of the Super Filly Rachel Alexandra would also change my life. It was my intense passion and love for Rachel that would bring me to meet some of the greatest  people in the world. I owe a lot to Rachel and this sport for introducing me to such wonderful people.


I want this blog to show that Indiana Racing stacks up with any track, anywhere! It will also show what great value can be found in Indiana for the bettors, and not to mention, the incredible purses for the owners and trainers.