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What are you talking about? It didn't affect his reputation in my eye's, I have trained horses for most of my life. i wanted to be a jockey but got to big so I settled for exercising and training. Horses can't tell you if they really don't feel up to running today,you have to hope that they will. If you can't read that there not them self's you send them out there and hope. AP is the best thing that has happened to racing in a while and as fare as retiring him, I would of after the Belmont, Not because of his rep but because he is special, Not many stallions have his disposition and his talent. I wouldn't take a chance on him getting hurt or worse. Money make people make some bad decision and some time it comes back on them. I've seen to many good horses have to be put down and it has hurt. I would hat to see that happen with him. I can't wait t see his first babies run and I want that to happen ASAP. I care about him more then seeing him race. He's done all he should have too. I don't care if he runs in the BC or not. I'm sorry for my rambling.
By the way Mr.Kennedy I may have miss read your comment and I apologize for doing so but you still don't have the right to try to bully people and you don't know me at all. I have spent most of my life training so you don't know what your talking about. My main point here is that you don't have the right to tell people to stop making there comments or as you say excuses. I don't know you and you don't know me but i don't like bullies and that's what you come off as to me. I will not make any more comments towards you or in answer to you.
OK, lets try this again. 8/30 p4s: 4,6,10/4,8,9,11/9,10/7,10 & 6/4,5,7,8,9,11/9,10/7,10 & 6/4,8,9,11/9,10/6,7,10
ZATT's Star of the Week, is ... Keen Ice!
Stop all of you with the excuses. Fact. AP is a TC winner and a great horse. All the he is tired crap is baloney. Let me break it down for you. The colt didn't get started until March. He has toyed with the fields under hand rides. He rested after the TC and has raced once prior to the travers doing awesome. His team has been happy and smiles saying how well he travels. In fact everyone was all smiles going into the race. The grave yard of champions excuse has always loomed large Keen ice has raced light out since January just trying to be part of the equation. Talk about a horse that should be tired. Yesterday was a great race and to lose by a length is nothing to diminish the colt but it is disrespectful to not acknowledge a hard fought win by keen ice. In fact any of the three were deserving of the wins. Stop the Bull""""" It was a great race run by the top three Ap got beat by the one two punch that forced him to never really get a breather. That's horse racing
Just a thought. AP's grandfather Empire Maker beat Funny Cide in the 2003 Belmont to stop a triple crown. now Keen Ice who like Funny Cide goes back to Mr Prospecter evens the score.
Another great race from S.W.
I like the Cali bred Big Book/Rattataptap/Stellar Wind/Roksana
Ocean Knight finishes 2nd beaten 3/4 of a length, good race off the long layoff, he will benefit from this and get better next time out.
Loved it!
WOW!!! Never in doubt!! Stellar Wind brilliant again!!! Wasn't much competition, but she looked great!!!!
  • Mark Kennedy via Disqus · I love how they were dogging her before the race saying she really isn't all that. Well she shut them up real quick dominating that race · 2 hours ago
So he loses 1 race like all the other greats did and all of a sudden everyone is throwing him to the curb? He lost, all the great horses lose some. He'll be back for more just like they did.
Congrats to Keen Ice. American Pharoah you are still #1 to me. GREAT JOB
American Pharoah is a great horse and besides PG I can't see an argument for him not being horse of the young century. This result doesn't change that. Regardless of what happens next AP will win the Eclipse Award for Champion Three Year Old and Horse of the Year. American Pharoah has also wrapped up the single season earnings record. Is he the greatest ever or even in the conversation? No. Citation, Secretariat, Count Fleet, War Admiral, Affirmed and probably Man O War are better than him. We need to put this loss in context. Affirmed like AP came back from the TC and won his return race at 9 in very similar time to AP ( 1.47.80 to 1.47.95) Also like Affirmed, AP went to the Travers against the best of his crop. Affirmed lost via DQ in 2.02 whereas AP lost by 1 in 2.01.57. How does this tarnish AP? He ran the 10 faster than Affirmed did at the same point in his three year old year. Today's Travers was a fast Travers historically the 12th fastest I've said it before and I'll say it again Frosted is far, far better than his record indicates and the fact AP managed to beat him in a speed duel at 10 says a lot. Remember at the 10 furlong KD AP was empty at the end of that race along with FL and Dortmund and the only thing that kept Frosted from the winners circle was a terrible trip. The Travers played out almost exactly the same way except this time the closer Keen Ice did not have a horrible trip and had room to catch the empty early speed in this case Frosted and eventually AP. There's nothing to be ashamed of in this race it was a tough field and unlike in the Belmont and Haskell he was put in a bad situation. I still feel AP is better than anything in the older horses division.
If a loss affected AP's reputation, than I would've retired him after his maiden race!!! If you're a horse racing supporter you would realize that AP running in the Travers!
And who are you Mr. Kennedy to tell every one to stop the Bull. If that race was ran again today the outcome could be different. People like you get me. You think your the one that knows more than any one. The fact is that a great horse got beat yesterday and you can think what you want but you can't tell any one that Keen Ice is a better horse and he hasn't been lights out. he has won only one race before yesterday. You should get off your high horse and understand that we are feeling bad about Him loosing and if we want to talk about it that's up to us Mr. Big Stuff. We will say what we want and if you want to be a jerk that's up to you. I am a great fan of AP but do I think he the best horse racing right now? No maybe not. I think there s a good chance he will get beat in the BC, Beholder might very well get him, personally I don't think he should be racing at all. Maybe you should back off and let people express there thoughts with out any smart remarks.
Congratulations to all who saw Greatness in this horse; tmallios, D. Rutherford and others. He won the way a deserving Triple Crown Champion should, and has earned his place among the all time greats! And most of all, THANK YOU American Pharoah!!!...
This is one to look out for in the future, as Lord Horse Club may have another superstar on their hands. Lord Quest won the Niigata Nisai (for 2 y/os) today by 4 lengths geared down with devastating ease.
Latest news on him?
Just saw a really interesting "where are they now" piece on YouTube about City Style who was a real warrior for Godolphin for a number of years racing in Dubai during the Carnival. He won the final start of his career in the G3 Strensall Stakes at York in 2013 and was then retired by Godolphin. He now resides in stables at Newmarket in the UK and was recently purchased by one of Godolphin's secretaries named Hannah Pollard who has retrained City Style and turned him into a competitive show jumper. According to his new owner he's already won a couple of ribbons in show jumping. Very different from finishing 2nd in the G1 Jebel Hatta or 3rd in the G1 Dubai Duty Free.
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For as long as i can remember I have always loved horses and writing. The first race I ever watched was War Emblem's Preakness Stakes, but I didn't really start to get into racing until the next year where watched and cheered Empire Maker through the Derby, and yes, the Belmont.

I didn't begin writing until a few years later, when I created my own blog Horsin' Around. It didn't take long for me to realize that my niche was stirring the pot and creating heated debates, especially during the time of Big Brown vs Curlin and Rachel Alexandra vs Zenyatta. I was a Curlin and Rachel fan.

Now I am here under the name of Dead Heat Debates, and hoping to live up to that name. Have fun and let the opinions fly! 

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