Kentucky Derby 2014 - Wicked Strong Pedigree Profile

He's been beaten by Constitution and Cairo Prince. Does Wicked Strong have what it takes to turn the tables in the 2014 Kentucky Derby?

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Talk about your so called forgotten , not known to the majority of the fans. Prior to his race on march 1, i posted that this guy was probably considered Todds 2nd best 3yo behind Constitution and excluding fillies. Unfortunately he has not been able to get back to the track. Evidence that being fast and taleneted,takes a back seat to sheer Racing Luck. Now that we have seen the horses he beat o that day. Look who he spanked around in the race that finished 3rd by 7 lengths. None other than new bandwagon sensaion "DANZA" . Here is hoping that this guy does have his issues corrected and comes back at 100 %. Looking forward to seeing him run.
Just kind of venting here. I am a big fan of the "old school" sports, obviously horse racing, boxing, and baseball. It really bothers me that the general public or even casual sports fan think and will say that horse racing or boxing are"dead". It bothers me that people don't realize there are different divisions in each sport, horse racing has their divisions based on age, gender, race distance, and surface.Boxing's divisions are based on weight class. I think a large part of the "dead" perception is that there hasn't been a notable American heaveyweight champion in over 20 years just has there hasn't been a TC winner in horse racing in almost 40. People just look to the "glamour divisions" without realizing that the respective divisions in each sport have been producing some of the best talent in recent years then we have ever seen ie Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacman, Bernard Hopkins Roy Jones Jr..and Wise Dan, Rachel,Zenyatta,Groupie Doll,Mizdirection,Royal Delta,Beholder,Game on Dude etc etc
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  • tmallios · Keep thinking that Sullivan Exactly what they want you to think. All about the racing!!! So tell me,why have parimutual racing then. Do not ever think that the better the product,the more from the core will show up. That applies in any field that needs money to fund it. You mentioned tracks that are in trouble and possible victims of being shut down. Personally when i hear that,all i care about are the people losing their jobs. In the context of Gambling. Who cares,i will still have a full enu of tracks to wager on from home. Might sound as a cruel and selfish point of view. This is the system the Racing game has adopted.90 % Of wagering sites on line,are owned and operated by the tracks. On the sites they do not have direct ownership to. They receive a fee for the use of their product. Like i said,other than people losing their jobs. Track closings mean nothing to someone like me. Is it harsh and cruel thinking.Absolutely,but all i and millions of other people are doing. We ae playing by the rules the racing game has set in motion. · 17 minutes ago ·
  • Sullivan · Saratoga isn't all about the racing, people just think it is. Since the same people are the customers, it works. · 4 minutes ago ·
Z13s name is Ziconic.
Constitution is OUT of the Derby due to a hairline fracture of the right front cannon bone. He had a work on Sunday, breezing a half in :50 3/5, and it was discovered he was off his right foreleg Monday. Per WinStar.
Constitution off the Derby trail with a hairline fracture. Uncle Sigh now in the top 20.
Italy is set to have no internationally-recognised Group races from next year after a meeting of the European Pattern Committee resulted in the nation being axed from the sport's top table. - http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/italy-axed-from-european-pattern/1638458/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews
13Z has been named Ziconic.
Zenyatta's second foal has a name. Now a yearling, his name is ... Ziconic!
I have only one concern, he has done all of his races & training in cal.
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  • tmallios · Where on this horses Past PPs has he shown to be an Unrateable/Wacky speed freak. While sprinting he has always come off the pace. In his 2 distance races that captured all attention. He went to the front in 1 race and comfortably sat in the next. When the horse runs,he does not pull or tug his jock all over the track. Blinkers will not make him lose control on Derby Day.Come Derby day,it will be an equal opportunity as to how fast or slow they will go. How will they react to the elements of the Mob they will be facing for the first time. How will they react to being stuck in a makeshift mini stall,for 25 minutes before they race. How will they react to the explosion of noise from the Grandstand and the infield ,when they finally step on the track.Problem with many is that they only see the ones affested by this if they run off in a rank and uncontrollable manner. Not the case,pay attention to the ones that forget to show up. It affects them so much,they never get going . They stay in the shell the entire race. Assuming CC will handle the miscelleneous elements. Losing it on the track and speed popping is the least of my worries for him.i · 2 hours ago ·
  • Sullivan · Doing this all off of memory, CC became a new horse when the blinkers were added. Since then he hasn't rated once, through strong paces too. Where do uou see him sitting? POst positions will be important, but I can't see him more than 4 off of it · 48 minutes ago ·
Q of the Day. who is the most impressive horse thusfar since 2000?
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  • AnnaK · Zenyatta, Invasor and Sunline are complete favourites, & yes all the above. · 11 hours ago ·
  • SSilence86 · Goldikova is one of my favorites. Excellent career too. · 52 minutes ago ·
Today's Q : who was the most in fluential sire of sires of the past 50 years? Raise a Native, Northern Dancer, A.P. Indy, Bold Ruler, or Storm Cat?
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  • buckpasser · Last point. I also think that Secretariat, given the mare quality that he got, was disappointing at stud. While a very good broodmare sire, he wasn't the top stallion that people thought he would be. Certainly Seattle Slew turned out better than people thought in my opinion and has carried on the BR influence. · 1 hour ago ·
  • Sullivan · I was told Bold Ruler's get were written off as sprinters because the Phippses had burned them out by the time they got to the age they could go long. As far as Secretariat being a disappointment, he was originally given distance mares because it was thought he was a speed sire. All of these foals were plodders, and rarely had the chance to eprform due to the lack of long prestigious races. Those who did accomplished theit deeds going long, like Risen Star. When Secretariat's distance ladden daughters were crossed with speed stallions, the traditional form was finally fit. This is how Secretariat came to be the leading broodmare sire. Some of his plodder foals did turn out good though, like Lady's Secret. This is due to the old racing theory of August Belmont. Lady's Secret's dam, an Icecapade mare, was all stamina. August Belmont believed in crossing two stamina horses. When you got a horse with speed, he had great stamina foundation. Lady's Secret is one of those who randomly happened upon speed. · 53 minutes ago ·
It appears pretty definite now the connections of Cirrus Des Aigles have chosen to ship to Hong Kong to run in the G1 Audemars Piguet QE II Cup on April 27th at Sha Tin, bypassing a potential clash with unbeaten Arc winner Treve in the G1 Prix Ganay at Longchamp on the same day.
  • ILuvTurfRacing · The Mike De Kock trained duo of Vercingetorix & Sanshaawes fresh off of success in Dubai willl also ship to Sha Tin for the AP QE II Cup along with the Japanese duo of Uncoiled & Epiphaneia · 1 hour ago ·
have you seen the record wins & 2nds! Wayne Lukas, Beware of his expertese. I saw him years ago tighten the saddle himself on Frans Valentines first win and sindicated the horse after the race who was owned by Green farm stable owned by Earl Sheib (of Famous Auto Paint shop Chain) "Fran" was his wifes name!
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  • travel_vic · inheireted or there are doubts that ANY of those would have still been sound at 5....Mr. capped tooth man HAS to get his name in the papers now! · 1 hour ago ·
  • travel_vic · Friends described Wiinning Colors, on here arrival at Caliborne, the STUDDISH most female they had ever seen and , NOT surprisingly with all that suspected steroid in the system, took her a very long time to "catch." · 1 hour ago ·
Will Danza be a one-hit wonder or a star of this year's Kentucky Derby?Read More
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  • Davidm9999 · Very intersting and timely pedigree profile on a NOW horse. I hope Danza is not a one hit wonder. We could use some quality in this crop as they sort themselves out. It "appears" Danza may be on the short list of those who might be able to handle the 10F Debry distance. Should know more by the end of day on May 3rd. · 3 hours ago ·
  • travel_vic · to ascribe the traits of the individaul by the traits of the parents is not scientifically a sound expansion · 1 hour ago ·
Sad to hear about her. Died after delivering her Bernardini foal. RIP
Is there any interest in doing an auction competition? Everyone gets $5,000,000 and at the end of the horses's 2yo year, we see who made the most money?
Tomorrow's Craven Stakes is always a sign for me that the European flat season is off an running. Interested to see if Toormore is the real deal at 3.
Apparently has been took out of training "for now" doubt will will see this beautifully bred colt on the racetrack.
He's been beaten by Constitution and Cairo Prince. Does Wicked Strong have what it takes to turn the tables in the 2014 Kentucky Derby?Read More
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  • johnsnare · wiked Strong has a lot of distance in his pedigree. Looks like the 2014 derby will have a lot of front end runners, and a few with distance porblems. a horse that is comfortable coming off the pace, should have a distinct advantage. laying off the pace should have · 8 days ago ·
  • thepuresilverband@yahoo.com · Wicked Strong with breed Chrismatic of trainer Wayne Lukas who had won the Derby and 2nd with Chrismatic's stable mate "cat Theif" How many trainers have won 1st & 2nd in the kentucky Derby. (Baffert must be in envy). Later on Breeders Cup 3 Mill Classic, I bet a $5 Bet on Cat Theif & BudRoyal which got me over $3,000! Just a $2 exacta was over $1,000!! I like the breeding and both Chrismatic & Cat Theif had the fastest both almost record speed Beyers! Dont Discount Wicked Strong! · 7 hours ago ·
Take charge is from Take Charge Lady, Wayne Lukas has 4 Kentucky Derby wins! Don't Discount!

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