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paul.nathan.946 · 3yr old sprinters don't fare well against the olders especially when they have a 4lb penalty. Sole power is the best sprinter in europe on firm ground hes got all he needs today i would expect and hope he wins. · 13 seconds ago ·


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Sullivan · Years ago three year olds could take it. · 5 hours ago ·


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Dressage3295 · Horses raced too hard too much these days fade quickly · 4 hours ago ·


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Mike in SB · If horses today didn't run on Lasix, then they could run more often, they would be fitter, have a better chance to stay sound and have longer careers. Lasix is killing racing. · 4 hours ago ·


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Dressage3295 · That and the irresponsibility of breeders' ^^^ Breeders' send their mares to too many unsound stallions · 3 hours ago ·


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tmallios1 · mike.all i know about lasix is that it is a dieretic that prevents horses from bleeding.i am not a vet or claim to be.as a matter of fact i have followed this game for a long time,never got invoved with the medication issues.can you explain to me at least how lasix prvents horses from running more often as a hansicapper and someone who consults trainers.i try to tell them to try to give their horses 4 to 5 weeks in between starts.they need x amount of time to recover from the race.then they have to build up again.i was once told by a vet who many consider the best in america.i will not mention his name.he said that because of the thorobted pounding his legs into the ground at such force and speed,that is what they must recover from.the soreness.on the same token,harness horses can run back every week.the stride is not as forceful.but i never heard the lasix angle.please,i am very interested to know its' effect. · 1 hour ago ·


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tmallios1 · harold you mention orb and someone stating that he needs are rest.do not know what your expertise is in making a statement he does not.are you familiar with his past performances.he started his career on AUG. 19th.,to date roughly 10 months later he has raced 9 times.almost an average of 1 race per month.he has done that at different venues at different states.to boot,prior to his making his debut,he was probably in training for at least 2 months.with the jogs,the gallops and the works (including schooling).this poor horse has not had a breather in almost 1 year.guess what? he is only 3 years old.i am sure there are different schools of thought as to how often a horse should run.i am not smart enough to tell you which thought is correct.i am using common sense.so assuming he runs in the belmont.what next.easy. get him ready for the jim dandy,the travers,the gold cup and then the breeders cup.to get a horse ready for a race,do you have a clue how long it takes to really get them to perform at maximum levels.so you want to lay him up after the belmont.lets give him only 5 weeks off.that puts us into the 2nd week of july.the jim dandy is the prep ffor the travers.run 1rst week in august.so lets run a short and tired horse.after all it is a prep for arce 4 weeks later.please tell me.when is this poor horse going to get some R &R. probably Nov. and Dec. ,because knowing guys like you,we have to get him a prep so he can run in the dubai cup next year. · 57 minutes ago ·


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kay.robinett · tmallios, lasix makes a horse (or human) pee out important electrolytes such as potassium along with the water. blood potassium levels can affect some important organs such as the heart. lasix can also cause severe dehydration. wanting a horse to get back to normal hydration levels and normal blood electrolyte levels is one reason why there are longer times between starts these days. here is a bit about lasix in mostly layman's terms: http://www.rxlist.com/lasix-side-effects-drug-center.htm · 29 minutes ago ·


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tmallios1 · well thank you kay.that was informative.i know about the dehydration and potassium factors.my parents take lasix.like with humans,are there not meds to give horses to help them with pottasium.the water i understand.but either way.thank you for the answer. · 22 minutes ago ·


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tmallios1 · kay.1 other question.you mentioned the negatives.what happens if they ban lasix.most horses are bleeders.let me give you a horse.alysheba.his worst race among the triple crown was the belmont.back then lasix was outlawed in N.Y.,he ran big in kent,md. where lasix was allowed.he flopped in N.Y.then he came back and ran a great race in the haskell in N.J. a lasix state then.these horses put a lot of strain on themselves.the gentleman earlier wants them to run more.without the help of lasix and much more exertion.does not that increase the chances for a horse to bleed.is there any other preventive medicine for bleeders without that many negative side effects.if not ,then many of these champions we have seen throughout the years may never of even attempted racing. · 12 minutes ago ·


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tmallios1 · there is no arguing that Flat Out and Cross Traffic are theones getting the attention.after all,coming off their thrilling recent matchup it should be a no brainer.many quality horses will insure lively payouts if the favorites falter.one that i think is very live to win is Sahara Sky.he is stretching out to a mile .being a son of Pleasant Tap, this should be a positive move more than a negative.in his last race at 7F,he fell back much farther than he should have.the fact that the track was playing huge inside speed only makes his race alot better than it already looks.he altered course and came flying on the worst part of the track.if you want evidence of the track.go back and look at the replay of the gazelle run a coule of races earlier.princess sylmar hooked close hatches on an outside trip.in midstretch it looked as though she would go by her.hatches caught a 2nd wind and rode the conveyer belt home.we all know what happened the next time they ran.the princess rewarded the track bias followers very generously in the Oaks.do not for one second miss out on the encore by Sahara Sky. good luck in whoever you ddecide to play. · 3 hours ago ·


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Sullivan · Hollendorfer has a good one in Sahara Sky, I agree. But how wide will Sahara Sky have to go? · 1 hour ago ·


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tmallios1 · sulli really does not matter.he will not be 7 or 8 wide.he has alot more tactical speed than you think.i expect joel to be laying about 6 lengths off down the back side.he is not a deep closer.he will be closer than you think.good thing is that he always finishes up strong. · 1 hour ago ·


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marylandgq · Great preview Chris. The great thing about this meet, it kills the Chalk-players. Then again, that's what turf races will do, especially maidens... 1st timers (on turf). You're mention of Rahystrada reminded me of another great turf sire, Rahy. The best part about racing at Cnl Wed-Sun schedule is its "9am-5pm worker friendly"... 1st Post is 6pm EDT Wed-Sat and 12:55pm EDT on Sundays. Now I have to go burn my front lawn. ;) · 1 day ago ·


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marylandgq · They normally have a camel race and the always entertaining Mascot race... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3b9m9D9KZc · 1 day ago ·


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AndyScoggin · I think this summer the Dark Horse will be a Talking Heads fans, "Burning Down the House." · 1 day ago ·


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cardsbymarcy · How fantastic! Always heard this was a wonderful place but you really brought it to life!! Gonna make it a must see! · 1 hour ago ·


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On The Gallop's · With Windsor Palace entered this will no more then a workout in company for Camelot. · 6 hours ago ·


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On The Gallop's · I believe Camelot will beat this field handily. · 6 hours ago ·


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ILuvTurfRacing · @On The Gallop's, I believe Camelot will win the Tattersalls Gold Cup, but Al Kazeem hasn't gone down easily to anyone in his entire career yet, and it's certainly not as if he's been beating mugs himself. I think it's quite possibly Al Kazeem could make this a much more interesting race than many think he will. Both are going out on Sunday for the 2nd start of the season, and both already have a G3 win in their seasonal debut's. · 1 hour ago ·


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Lisa111 · I think Code West would have a little bit to say about being left out of that group. :) · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Code West does feel a little "Paynter-esque," doesn't he? · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Yes I can see that. Derek said based on dosage and adj12f, I think based only on those 2 criteria, Code West would definitely be among the top in that group. · 1 day ago ·


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DerekFisher · I could put him in as a sleeper, but he just didn't look good at the LA derby to me..sure he cleans up in allowance races, but I still like Oxbow/PM more · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Yes, I'm not sure about him either however his dosage sure is fine for 12f. · 1 day ago ·


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tmallios1 · i am sorry to be the party pooper.but while you are discussing dossage and breeding and theoretically being able to get the 12 furlongs,you forgot 1 thing.talent.code west on derby day lost to a horse who had just broken his maiden after 6 tries.on preakness day,he beat a field that did not even consist of a quality 30 claimer.do you throw ability out the window and think racing is all about being able to get a certain distance or surface.if bob baffert did not train this horse,he would not even be a pimple on an elephants butt in regards to noteriety.jay,he is not paynter esque.paynter was a horse on an upswing,he beat a stakes field on preakness daday convincingly.he had a troubled trip in the santa anita derby and lost by less than 5 lengths.he showed and exuded talent and ability.code west to this point has shown neither trait. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · tmallios, if u read the comment we were talking about DOSAGE. Has absolutely nothing at all to do with the horses past performances. · 1 day ago ·


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tmallios1 · lisa what does it matter.so you are talking dossage.that is fantasy horse racing.deal in reality.he has no shot.why would so many posters discuss him. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Why not get down from your high thrown. I have found that many people that do not consider dosage or breeding of any importance are those that do not have the capability of understanding it. I would assume this is the case here. One can understand dosage and add it to the understanding of everything else that is involved in handicapping. If you are not into it, so be it, but to be so ignorant as to charge fantasy horse racing, then you are sadly mistaken. · 1 day ago ·


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tmallios1 · first of all lisa it is my high throne not thrown.no need to get excited or crazy.breeding and dossage are tools,but there must be talent and ability to even consider those facets.so any time you want to smoke the peace pipe,you can accompany me on my high throne. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · So terribly sorry for misspelling in your presence. What was I thinking? And if you considered the context in which we were speaking, you wouldn't interject your thoughtless opinion. Never said the horse had a shot at winning the Belmont. The horse has a magnificent dosage profile. Never considered Golden Soul for the Derby but again, the horse had a magnificent dosage profile. Smoke your own pipe, gave that up back in high school. · 1 day ago ·


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CauseForConcern · One fact that would be in Lisa's favor? Over the last eleven years, three long shots have won the Belmont: 2002-Sarava; 2008- Da' Tara and 2011 - Ruler On Ice. All three of these horses had a final 1 1/16 prep @ Pimlico. Sarava in the Sir Barton Stakes(renamed Barbaro Stakes); Da' Tar was runner-up in the Barbaro Stakes; and Ruler On Ice was runner-up in the Federico Tesio Stakes. So, with this fact in hand, it enhances Code West's chances. And, he would follow suit with long shot odds. · 1 day ago ·


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illhaveanothertriplecrown · Revolutionary is going to win, but I think Orb and Oxbow will put up a fight. If Palice Malice doesn't go all Leeroy Jenkins again, he might make it interesting. I am not looking for Golden Soul, WTC, Overanalyze, Unlimited Budget or Code West to do win. · 1 day ago ·


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tmallios1 · you were not thinking lisa,you were over reacting to a subject that unfortunately ticles your funny bone more than it does mine.so excuse me for trying to interject some logic.you are correct,i am not worthy to ever question you.have a nice night.honestly i am now bored with this childish ping pong game on both our parts. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Dear Lord. I can't even say a horse has a great Dosage Profile without getting grief from those that most likely know absolutely nothing about the subject. Never said Code West was a hotshot for the Belmont. Never said he couldn't be either. Pathetic. · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Isn't that nuts, Lisa? It's true, everytime you share dosage info some clown has to chime-in. I don't get it either. Dosage was a pretty hot topic in the '80s. (Waiting for the next post to say we've evolved since then). · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Jay, I should have learned by now, keep it to myself. The uninformed can stay uninformed. · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Well, I will say that I enjoy reading your Dosage posts. I'm sure there's plenty others as well. I never comment because I know almost nothing about the topic. · 1 day ago ·


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Mary Z. · Jay--that's like me. I wish there was an "I've read this and found it interesting." button. · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Also, the reason I never post daily picks is cause I have to study the Form for hours and hours before I'm ready to pick. The times I get to go to the track, I stay-up till 1 to 2 in the morning studying. I love it. But, I'm not one that can just glance at the form and be confident. · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Yeah Mary, that's a great idea. I think I wear-out the "like" button probably as much as anyone. NEVER on my own stuff, though. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Jay, its really sort of a hobby is all. A few years ago I wanted to know why some horses thrived with low dosage and some with high. I just have a thing about wanting to know everything when it comes to handicapping. Sometimes I use it, sometimes I don't. Its usually the times when dosage completely dominates with all the horses who hit the board that I tend to forget about it. Thats my luck!! · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Who cares about dosage!?! I'm kidding. Only kidding. Please don't send an electronic mail bomb. Even if I deserve it. :) · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · "Just your luck!" That's too funny. That's what would happen to me as well. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Jay, Funny thing, went to Delaware Park on Preakness day with my friends. We were hitting trifectas left and right all day on pretty much the worst horses ever. Won a ton, turned around and bet it all on the Preakness. Lost it all because Oxbow wasn't anywhere on my radar. Walked through the casino to leave and decided to throw a few bucks in a slot machine. Hit double what I won and lost at the track and left very happy. See, you never know!! · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Wow Lisa. That's awesome. A bit of an emotional and monetary rollercoaster, I would say. · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · When I got back to my computer I saw your post that started with "Dear Lord," and commented about the clowns. I didn't realize you and tmallios were having a tussle. He probably hates me now cause of the clown remark. Hope not. Oh well. :) · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · I'm sure he doesn't. After all is said and done, he knows I like him. We have a common affinity for Vyjack. The horse is all that matters!! · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · Yeah, that's true. :) Unfortunately for Vyjack, I think tv was right about his connections bringing him back too soon after his respiratory disorder. Hopefully, it didn't have a negative impact on his mentality. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Vyjack will be fine. He hated all of those screaming fans, no doubt. I am sure he will be back in form and ready to go. · 1 day ago ·


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travel_vic · Horses dislike noise: they would have NO IDEA of its source, expeciall would not know about fans anymore that the creaking sound of the gate. · 1 day ago ·


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Jay S. · I agree Lisa that when Vyjack returns, he will make some serious noise. · 1 day ago ·


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Lisa111 · Yes Professor Vic, I have knowledge of where the source of the noise that Vyjack disliked. I understand that a horse doesn't comprehend a grandstand full of fans. Your compulsion to post needlessly is nauseating. · 1 day ago ·


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travel_vic · ANTHROPOMORPIZING makes a graduate Zoologist like me CRINGE.....They are animals that respond to INSTINCTS and have not capacity to differentiate the sound of a human versus a stack of dishes falling...ANYONE with any study in that area should be well versed to know that. · 23 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · You need psychiatric help. Desperately. · 23 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · Why because I expose melarkey as it spews from the ignorant ramblings of people who haven't a clue what is going on?? · 23 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · Maybe a pea-brain like yourself can even understand. Read slowly. A horse named Vyjack was spooked by noise at the derby. I personally know that the source of the noise was from the screaming fans. Hence, Vyjack was spooked by the screaming fans. Your ignorant ramblings are a joke and your pitiful compulsion to spread your germ infested MALARKEY makes my stomach turn. Learn how to spell Malarkey d---bag. · 23 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · personally? You interview the horse becuase that is the ONLY source that would be reliable · 22 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · the narriative fallacy alive and well. NO ONE really knows why most horses DO OR do not do anything so they make up a story sans facts of experimental results to overlay on randomness...it is pandemic · 22 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · Help is out there for those who suffer mid-life crisis for too many years. You should discuss your multiple-profession-disorder as well while you are laying on the sofa. I see you for the joke that you are. You embarrass yourself daily. · 22 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · And yes, personally. Along with about 500,000 other people who witnessed the race. · 22 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · having seen literally THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS more race than you my dear, and being PART of the game for decades, you don't have much credibility here · 22 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · Hell I am WAY past mid life · 22 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · you polled 500,00o people or are there that many suckers who think that race horses act like Mr Ed? · 22 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · Multi profession? I was a truck driver while in school, a practitioner for over 30 years and now am a camera operator and photo finish tech...Thre careers are multiple in your world?? · 22 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · I know your old, thats why I said you suffer mid life crisis for way too many years. And every horseplayer knows that Vyjack was plenty upset prior to the race because of the uproar and it escalated into the gate. You are no horseplayer if you weren't privy to all that was going on. Give it up Vic, I'm not so sure why I even gave you this much time. You are meaningless and the last person on this forum that I take seriously. Sometimes I actually feel sorry for you but then I come back to my senses. Good night Scientist, Zoologist, Vet, Photographer, gate keeper, doctor, lawyer, indian chief. · 22 hours ago ·


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Mary Z. · Too funny. Ha,ha,ha. Or could be the wine. · 22 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · young lady I HAVE FORGOTTEN more than you will ever know about this game · 22 hours ago ·


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Mary Z. · Is there a cure for a mid-life crisis? · 22 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · Vic, its not a contest between people who love the sport. Knowing that a horse was spooked by noise from the grandstand is trivial at best and you living more years than me is so stupidly irrelevant. This is the reason for my distaste. You have no idea who I am, what I do, who I know, what I have seen and how I wager. NONE. All I know is that when you post your 4 "contenders" only one hits the board usually in third. I'd go up against you any day of the week. · 22 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · Mary, yes, I hear there is a cure. It is called coming to terms with your age and learning to see your life in a happy and positive way. I feel our friend Vic carries a chip on his shoulder against fellow horse players. I think he is incurable. · 22 hours ago ·


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Mary Z. · I've enjoyed going a few rounds with him too, Lisa. GL. ;) I try to learn from all. I find many of your posts quite interesting, even if I use a different approach. I just have fun with it, though so I can't really give advice. · 21 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · I guess I don't need advice, I just need to learn to bypass his posts!! I usually do but once in awhile the arrogance is too much to ignore. · 21 hours ago ·


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Sully · I like Lisa. Called TV a dbag. ;) My kinda gal · 21 hours ago ·


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likin sparks · Give me a muddy track and I'll give you Orb, give me a fast track...you're on your own. · 20 hours ago ·


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Mary Z. · I like tv. There; I said it. Deal with it. · 19 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · fam blindness: it occurs often in the tyro · 14 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · FAN blindness, alive and well.....Don't use the actual stage of reality to measure this facet or that, just overly the subjective "pretty horsey" logic...You will go far and remain clueless with an approach like that. · 14 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · ANY evaluation requires a working premise, a series of possibilities and then a game plan to sequentially eliminate those theoreticals that do not fit the facts...Vyjack was a right off before the race : just too slow and the wrong style for that contest. Reported right here · 13 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · no coffee and up too late WRITE OFF not right off · 13 hours ago ·


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jinlie01 · I'll be focusing on three horses and possibly narrowing that down to one or maybe two the most...Oxbow, Code West, and Overanalyze. I remember when I was a kid just starting to appreciate thoroughbred racing that dosage was mentioned all the time when discussing derby contenders. It seems that formula/theory is not as leaned upon since the 90's. · 13 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · Vic, WRONG AGAIN. First, we were talking about noise affecting Vyjack. Nothing more. But if you want to put your foot in your mouth some more, no problem. Vyjacks running style was perfect for the way the derby played out. Running late was exactly what was called for. Position at each call for Orb: 16-16-17-5-2-1. Golden Soul: 15-15-15-7-3-2. Rev: 17-18-18-12-5-3. Norm: 12-7-6-1-1-4. Mylute: 18-17-16-9-6-5. If Vyjack ran the way he wins his races, then his running style was more than right for the Derby. Your assessment prior to the race was that the front runners were at the advantage. WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. · 12 hours ago ·


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zxswordxz · "Don't worry head. The computer will do all the thinking from now on." - Homer Simpson · 12 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · from the limited perspective of those who don't delve further into aspects most never touch...QUOTE from the note I wrote here Saturday the day of the race. Revolutionary is at the bottom end of % median, Normandy Invasion is far too late but improving, Charming Kitten (too late at 66.5), Java’s War (in the turf category at 66.5 too too far back) and Vyjack coming in at a paltry 66.8. SO IF these get up, we know things have changed because based upon tradition they should not. · 11 hours ago ·


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travel_vic · a computing system allow analysis of fact over a wide variety of tests that simple obeservation would miss by a mile...25 years of Derby parameters don't lie as they have missed exactly twice: ODDLY on Barbaro, and MIne that Bird · 11 hours ago ·


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Lisa111 · Skate the issue as usual. You said the winners will have clean silks running up front. WRONG. You are constantly wrong and then you twist it and change the subject. I've had enough of you and your constant crap. · 10 hours ago ·


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Mary Z. · Did anyone predict whack-job 45 second waste and chase by Palace Malice and ignorant followers? Like watching a disaster movie. · 10 hours ago ·


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illhaveanothertriplecrown · The horse race version of LEEEROY JENKINS · 9 hours ago ·


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tmallios1 · lisa,jay.please do not ever think i take things personally.along with the years i have lived ,i have a thick skin.if 1 cannot get passionate about something they love and enjoy.they really don't.oops i think i am getting philosophical like vic.enjoy the game · 7 hours ago ·


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On The Gallop's · Give it up Lisa. Vic owned you and know you resort to attacking his advanced years. T.V actually gives good sound advice, and knowledge on here. You can't handle it .... then get over yourself. · 6 hours ago ·


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On The Gallop's · *now. · 6 hours ago ·


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DerekFisher · man, all i did was post my 4 favorites in the belmont and this thread blows up. I'm really starting to dislike this site because of how negative people can be and how you all have this stupid machismo that you have to be right. · 6 hours ago ·


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tmallios1 · derek,all due respect.do not take this the wrong way.give it a rest · 6 hours ago ·


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illhaveanothertriplecrown · derek just ignore and talk to us positive nonknow it alls. or just laugh at the angry folks · 3 hours ago ·


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tmallios1 · it is called stimulating the blood.no harm no foul.using a football term.pick up the flag and play ball.why if anything would the 2 of you take it personally .we were not going after you.it was one on one dialogue.like lisa and jay said with me.when the smoke clears we are all friends.lets let the sleeping dogs lay. · 2 hours ago ·


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LAZMANNICK · Derek good post. Forget about the ones who are constantly negative. We all know who they are and most of us find them amusing. Keep on posting. · 1 hour ago ·


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LAZMANNICK · Lisa I like your posts. I for one thjink you really know what you're talking about. Keep it up. · 1 hour ago ·


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goblin · I'd like to see what Bill Mott could do with him. · 9 hours ago ·


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jmac500 · I wish it would happen. · 8 hours ago ·


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RichChatter · Mott, Matz and Maker would all be fine choices imo. But don't hold your breath. · 7 hours ago ·


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Sullivan · I get the feeling he is the kind of horse who needs constant work and racing, Mott might not be the best person for him in that case. And I wouldn't place too much on a trainer switch. Motion is my choice, anywhoo · 5 hours ago ·


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deirdre.boyne.9 · Sullivan, I agree. I have always thought Motion would click with Margano. Of course, Mr. Tagg did, but it seems to me that the Delacours can not bring out the spark that Mr. Tagg could. Motion just might be able to though. · 2 hours ago ·


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